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Hello everyone ,, just wanted to weigh in my dilemma ATM I have optoma hd8200. And wanna upgrade to 1 on these models

1. Panasonic ae8000. 2000$
2. Jvc rs46. 2800$
3. Jvc x70. 3700$

ATM I can afford the panny others I'd have to save up.... All three models are upgrades to what I have ... My room is 14 wide by 16 feet long ... Watch movies/sports ,, most important factor is 2d image and memory lense for the 2.35 1

I guess I'm asking is if it were you what would you chose
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If 2D image quality is what it important to you, then that rules out the Panny compared to the two JVC's.

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Really I thought beside black level (no one beats jvc )panny had a very sharp image along side the likes of epson
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The RS46 is definitely worth the extra $$ over the 8000. The 8000 has some odd color uniformity issues that are an unfortunate trait of the LCD panels.

JVC color is also going to be noticeably better out of the box. Better sharpness, contrast, etc.
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I bought the x35 just a couple weeks ago. i'm thrilled with it. I can conceive of a better 2D picture, but I haven't seen one yet...

i'm not sold on the benefits of 4k, and the best jvc wasn't really in the budget. for me it was a decision between Epson 5020, jvc x35/rs46, and jvc x55/rs48. I think for me to see any improvement going with the x55 i'd need a new screen(way less screen texture and/or much larger) and i'd need to sit closer than I do.

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ok update

coming from a optoma hd8200

panasonic ae8000 , went to local store to see it and it looked very nice puchy colors bright good for sports /gaming/movies
blacks were nice no were near perfect ,but very nice ......only thing is its brand (new) in the box unopened no bill= no warrenty

then theres the jvc rs46 for 2600$ blacks are best 2d very good ,,,low lumens ( which is ok but sports would benifit from
3d ok , gaming ok , excels in batcave type rooms,,,so my own conlusion is very good 2d with blacks ,,and everything at par or below

then there's the rs55/x70 for 3600$ bstock with warrenty same has rs46 plus e shift 4k but is it worth an extra 1000$
lense shift is better then pansonic ae8000 for i can move image left to right up down (rs46 and rs55) by a click of the button

to sum it up pansonic is a jack knife it dose it all pretty well ,
rs46 - best picture ...and thats about it
rs55- best picture and 4k upscale:)

in a perfect world i;d take one of each but need advice to push me over
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have you viewed the jvc? i'm just wondering because I found mine to be extremely bright. I mean maybe it's not boardroom bright, but watching sports with the lights on is no big deal at all. it's not even THAT bad for watching movies with the lights on.

I snapped some pics to try and show what i'm talking about. all pics were taken with the same ISO setting and shutter speed, but it is a cheap point and click so there's some variation.

the room lighting: lights over the seats on full, blind by the door open, and I took these just minutes ago so during the day. I never watch anything with this much light in the room, and that includes when i'm not using the projector and using the plasma instead. I find it uncomfortably bright.


here's an image that's reasonably bright with the lights on full and the bulb on low:


same image with the bulb on high:


same image with the lights off(bulb back to normal low setting)


as you can see, with bright stuff, it's not a big change at all.

darker content is a little different though
dark image, low bulb, lights on:


same image, high bulb, lights on:


same image, low bulb, lights off:


the camera shows pretty decent relative differences, but I find the picture has a lot more brightness and contrast in real life in all three situations

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ok update

in a perfect world i;d take one of each but need advice to push me over

Look at this:

New lamp and a 2 year warranty

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JVC-D-ILA-DLA-RS45U-DLA-RS45-REFERENCE-SERIES-3D-HOME-CINEMA-PROJECTOR-/140999923444?pt=US_Video_Projectors&hash=item20d44016f4
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nice too bad they dont ship to canada frown.gif
got my eye on jvc rs55 ,,
but was thinking is rs55 better then rs46 maybe the newer RS is better of there upgrades (crosstalk /lamp/etc
or is rs55 still better ?
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nice too bad they dont ship to canada frown.gif
got my eye on jvc rs55 ,,
but was thinking is rs55 better then rs46 maybe the newer RS is better of there upgrades (crosstalk /lamp/etc
or is rs55 still better ?

I wasn't quite going that high, but I felt this years jvc models provided a significant improvement over older jvc models and was worth paying extra for. I was more specifically looking between rs46/rs45 or x35/x30. for me I didn't see much reason to go above that, but if I could have gotten the same performance for a grand less I was going to try. in the end, I just didn't like the risk(especially with bulbs) and especially being in Canada it was hard to find anything close to an authorized dealer selling them.

i'm super happy with my x35.

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I would add a sony HW50 and vw95 to your list, especially since you plan to watch sports. From what in have read, the panels on the sony can handle motion better than the JVC.
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Well update I pulled trigger on a jvc x70 from eBay with only 39 hours on tic'er smile.gif hope I did a good decision ,, since I'm gonna zoom in for the 2.35:1 , the 4k scaling will help there (( if zombie has rs55 man that all I needed to know to get one with confidence ... Now looking into the hp screens
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Well update I pulled trigger on a jvc x70 from eBay with only 39 hours on tic'er smile.gif hope I did a good decision ,, since I'm gonna zoom in for the 2.35:1 , the 4k scaling will help there (( if zombie has rs55 man that all I needed to know to get one with confidence ... Now looking into the hp screens

It will be interesting to see if the projector actually has 39 hours on it?

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The only thing I worry about when buying any three chip projector used is the issue of a gross misconvergence of the panels and not having a dealer/warranty to exchange the unit for one that is better. I hope you got the seller to send a few pictures to make sure the unit you were getting was half way decent in this regard. Buying new you never know with convergence but at least you have a support system to exchange the unit out. With buying used its a dead end if the unit is bad.
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Well seller said the warranty is good till 05/14
Is there a way to confrim there is warranty ?
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Well seller said the warranty is good till 05/14
Is there a way to confrim there is warranty ?

You'd have to check to see if the warranty is transferable. You should be okay as I don't think most manufacturers ask for proof of purchase.
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Well seller said the warranty is good till 05/14
Is there a way to confrim there is warranty ?

Having an almost New projector of my own I am trying to sell to save my marriage.. I checked with Sharp about the warranty they provide on my projector. To find out any info from Sharp I had to provide them the serial number. They told me as long as the person that buys the unit has the original receipt with proof of when it was purchased, they do not care about about who has it, just how old it is. I am sure every manufacture is different, I would call their warranty/tech support number and ask. Get the serial number before calling as they will probably not be able to tell you anything without it.
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I would add a sony HW50 and vw95 to your list, especially since you plan to watch sports. From what in have read, the panels on the sony can handle motion better than the JVC.

I love my vw95es. And the motion for sports is really nice.
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