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I noticed Magnolia Audio has the 30ES for $2500 with 3 year financing etc. I know it's a couple years old now and the line's moved on (along with PJ technology in general). But now that it's been reduced from $4K to $2.5K, is it a standout still - or are there other projectors that clearly surpass it at that price point?
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I noticed Magnolia Audio has the 30ES for $2500 with 3 year financing etc. I know it's a couple years old now and the line's moved on (along with PJ technology in general). But now that it's been reduced from $4K to $2.5K, is it a standout at that price point? Anything else that's clearly superior to it for the price?

I would look at the new HW50ES. The new 50 is brighter, sharper and better contrast. 50 also comes with emitter, two pair of glasses and a spare lamp. Sent you a PM. smile.gif

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It's also not as much more as you think. With all the extra stuff it makes no sense to get the 30.

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Mike - thanks for your reply. From what I've seen the VPL50ES is around $4K which does put it in a different league pricewise too. If you could do significantly better than that including shipping, let me know and I'll call you when I get the chance.

But if not, staying with $2500 could I get, say, a DLP unit with superior contrast, sharpness, etc as well?
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Hmm, guess I'll have to call then.. wink.gif
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Personally, unless you need the extra brightness for a larger screen or if you're viewing a lot of 3D content and need the brightness for that, the HW30ES is a better value at this price. All you need to do is add a Darblet and you'll get a more naturally looking sharp picture over the HW50ES with RC enabled and still save yourself $1000.

As far as DLP goes, unless you're looking at a used higher end DLP, you aren't going to find anything with the PQ or well-roundedness the HW30ES has.
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2500 pj plus 2 pairs of glasses plus an extra lamp will make the difference between the two prices small enough where it makes zero sense to get the older model with the less evolved processor.

If he had to get a darblet on top of that well then he may end up paying even more.

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I noticed Magnolia Audio has the 30ES for $2500 with 3 year financing etc. I know it's a couple years old now and the line's moved on (along with PJ technology in general). But now that it's been reduced from $4K to $2.5K, is it a standout still - or are there other projectors that clearly surpass it at that price point?

I had the HW30 for over a year, at the same price you're seeing it at, the JVC RS46 is a better pick imo. Even with the darbee on the HW30, the JVC will be sharper.

if you spend a bit more on the HW50 you get an extra lamp which is a nice add-on. I would pass on the HW30 unless it was around 2k.
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2500 pj plus 2 pairs of glasses plus an extra lamp will make the difference between the two prices small enough where it makes zero sense to get the older model with the less evolved processor.

If he had to get a darblet on top of that well then he may end up paying even more.

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He wouldn't have to add a darblet. The Darblet replaces the RC that the HW50ES has. Since when did a bulb and 2 pair of 3D glasses cost $1000? All I'm saying is that the two are virtually the same minus RC, some added brightness, and a contrast boost.. IF the brightness is needed than the HW50ES is the way to go, if not, he may as well save himself some money and go the HW30ES route and just add a Darblet.
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The HW50 kit is worth spending the extra ~700 over the BB price of the HW30 imo.
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Hw50 and yeah call mike

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Considering he's said twice he wants to stay around $2500, it would only be worth getting the HW50ES if he plans on viewing 3D content. The emitter, glasses, and spare lamp then become worth the 30% bump in price considering you'd have to buy them for 3D viewing on the HW30ES. From a picture quality standpoint the only thing that would be noticeable between the two is the bump in contrast. The HW50ES is the better choice for brightness, if needed, and 3D.
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I had the HW30 for over a year, at the same price you're seeing it at, the JVC RS46 is a better pick imo. Even with the darbee on the HW30, the JVC will be sharper.

if you spend a bit more on the HW50 you get an extra lamp which is a nice add-on. I would pass on the HW30 unless"

I'm not sure how much I'd use 3d. Would the JVC still have that option? I have a light controlled HT room but walls are white and can't paint them at this point BTW.
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I'm not sure how much I'd use 3d. Would the JVC still have that option? I have a light controlled HT room but walls are white and can't paint them at this point BTW.

it's 3D ready, you would just need a transmitter + glasses. This kit for only $75 would get you started if you were interested in seeing how it looks.

http://www.amazon.com/MonsterVision-Eyewear-System-Active-Sync/dp/B004443WRG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374040165&sr=8-1&keywords=monster+vision+3D
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Maybe you can have a look at the Mitshibishi HC5.
I was on the same bridge 2 weeks ago and was on the verge of buying the HS30.
I've asked which one to buy the HW30 or the Mits on a german homecinema forum and they advised me to buy the Mits.
They said that the Mits HC5 and the Sony HW50 are in the same league.
I must say I am very happy with the Mits!
We can get it for 1800 Euro's in Europe now that's 2400 us dollars.

Excuse me for my language skills but i'm Dutch.
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Sorry to bring back an old thread, but lots of good info here.

I am in a similar predicament, I have the opportunity to get this 30es for $1300 - $1800 ( I know that's a big window, will come down to my negotiating skills).

At this price, oh this is Canadian dollars too, is this a - Go get in your car now and get it deal? or have there been better sub $2000 projector released (or coming soon) that would be a smarter buy?

Any guidance would be much appreciated!

Thanks!
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That is a good deal, provided it comes with full 3 year manufacturers warranty through sony canada and if its a demo, a spare bulb. I personally would go for it having seen the sony 30, the 5020/6020, and mits hc5 recently. It is a nice 2d pj, with good enough contrast, good enough brightness for most setups, minimal screen door effect, and good input lag if you game. I cant comment on 3d though if thats important to you.

In canada the sony 50 is tough to come by right now and prices tend to be quite high. That leaves you with an option of a sony 55 if you want to stick with the versatility of a sony which is likely going to be double the cost of the 30 you are looking at. Is the 55 going to be better, absolutely, double the price better, maybe to some.

Having said all that though, this is just my personal take. The right decision for you might be different depending on your room, your screen, your throw, how picky you are, and your ability to watch a pj knowing there are better pictures to be had out there!
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I've been considering this projector for a while as I am dissatisfied with my PT-AE7000U. It seems like this projector is mostly gone from the market now. If that price is for a new unit I would jump at it.
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Are there any deals on the Sony HW50 at all? I had planned on maybe buying the HW50 when the hW55 came out but haven't seen it discounted at all.

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Thanks to everyone that replied!

I went to get it and the Manager is going back on what if Sales guy stated to me... now wants $2000 CAD. Still going to try getting them down lower to what Sale guy stated, I can play the long game.

I am not in any rush, my Mitsubishi HD1000u is still going strong.


That being said, any thought on the Mitsubishi HC5 ($1500) or even more entry Benq 1070w (Below $1000) vs the 30?

This would be a dedicated HT room, complete control of lighting.

Mainly TV and Movies, some gaming. 2D is primary, rare case 3D might happen.

Screen will be 100-120. Not sure about gain as I will be buying a new screen based on the projector I get.

Thanks again everyone and hope you had a great Thanksgiving to all my US friends and a safe Black Friday if you ventured out to everyone, US and Canada!!
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Where are you finding the hc5 for 1500?
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Where are you finding the hc5 for 1500?

Sorry should have said 1550 US.
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So I bought it, got it for $1000 CAD. Full warranty, Glasses, but needs a new bulb.

So if anyone has an extra bulb or knows anyone that sells them relatively cheap please PM me!

Thanks again for all your help cant wait to start setting this up!!

Oh, any there any ceiling mounts I should be looking at for this guy? are there any I should avoid like the plague?
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1000 for the sony hw30? Wow! Very nice deal! Enjoy.
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Thanks! I'm excited! Now just need to get a new bulb.
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2500 pj plus 2 pairs of glasses plus an extra lamp will make the difference between the two prices small enough where it makes zero sense to get the older model with the less evolved processor.
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Sorry goffteamout I'm not sure what you mean.
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