This may initially appear to be off topic, but I posted here a few weeks ago to try and understand whether the new Cine LED 1000 would provide an improvement over my Runco Q-750i (same as previous 600 Lumen Cine LED).
Some suggested that I look towards the newer JVC's and I finally managed to see the JVC X700 a week ago. Before I visited the store to demo the projector I watched multiple scenes from two Bluray movies that I own on my Runco Q-750i. Immediately following these, I visited the store and was given full access and control of the showroom to make my own comparisons. When I returned home I again watched the same material on my set up.
Before posting my findings, it's worth listing a couple of the key differences in set up between the store and my own set up:
1. Screen: Store -135" 2.35 (not sure of gain); my screen: 130" 2.35 (Stewart Firehawk G3)
2. Store: Zoom method to achieve 2.35; My set up -use of Schneider Cine Digitar to achieve 2.35
So given the above, it is probably a little difficult to directly compare perceived brightness etc. However, regardless of the differences my view was that the JVC was slightly brighter than my set up despite using the zoom method to achieve 2.35. The difference was not massive but it was there. This is the first JVC that I've seen that actually had anywhere near its quoted lumens (I'm a previous JVC owner).
Black levels were typically JVC but there was something odd that I picked up after extended viewing. The black levels on bright scenes, especially where black was adjacent to bright material was very average. In fact, in my view it was significantly worse than the Q-750i. Darker scenes were a no contest as expected.
Colour performance of the JVC was ok but to me still left a little to be desired against the Q-750i -and this is compared to BT709 not to native LED. The store rep did state that they hadnt performed a full calibration but had just made basic adjustments so this may have influenced things somewhat.
Without going into extensive detail, the JVC impressed me, especially compared to its previous offerings. However, on all but 5% of the scenes that I viewed (dark scenes included) I prefered the picture of the LED Q-750i and by a decent margin. It's hard to put a finger on exactly why but the image just looked so much more natural where the JVC had a sort of processed look to it. It may have been the eShift processing but who knows. I guess that this crude comparison has convinced me to rule out the JVC at this point.
So, this brings me to my next question(s). I am looking at purchasing a Cine 1000 LED for the improvement in brightness, a Sony VW500ES, potentially a used Runco LS-10i or a used DPI Highlight 260. The price of these to me is likely to be within $500 or so of each other. A few points or opinions:
1. I am not necessarily convinced of the benefits of 4k unless at very close seating distances. I do not see pixellation unless sitting closer than 10ft in my cinema. This seating distance is unfeasible in this and I believe any future home theater rooms that I am likely to have.
2. I understand that the Cine LED 1000 is in essence the same projector as my Q-750i with increased brightness. In my experience, increased brightness with all else being equal does provide a perceived improvement in overall PQ.
3. I am concerned that the Cine LED 1000 does not deliver on its brightness claims based on what i've read. The best that i've read so far is ~680 Lumens which is ~50% greater than my Q750i at D65. Anyone measure better than this? Are my concerns valid?
Has anyone out there seen each of these projectors in the flesh? Are you able to share your subjective views? I am not necessarily disappointed with the Q750i but there is an upgrade itch developing that I can't seem to settle. It has been 2 years after all...
Last edited by seanoo; 07-30-2014 at 07:30 AM.