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I recommend you get a quote from Mike at AVS. I can't imagine a $2k gap from his quoted price for a 3 hour old unit, unless it really is too good to be true.

AVS can't sell to Canada. Eastporters is our best option that I know of.

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I have watched some 4K content on my JVC X500 via my HTPC and it looked pretty awesome. Even the 4k remastered BDs I have watched with my OPPO look pretty good. I feel the improvement is enough that I can wait a few years until true 4K is more affordable.

What is your seating distance and width of your screen? I sit 2x width and wonder if I'll see any significant improvement in 4k from that distance.
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It's $2,000 less than I can buy it new.

That sucks for the extra cost in Canada
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What is your seating distance and width of your screen? I sit 2x width and wonder if I'll see any significant improvement in 4k from that distance.


Well just so I am not guilty of false advertising. The JVC I have is a upscaled 4k, so not a true 4k like the Sony's. But it is still an improvement, there is an obvious difference. I sit 15 ft from a 115in screen.

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That sucks for the extra cost in Canada

I can get it for $4,500 which is way below my quotes from retailers and it still has most of the warranty remaining. I know we can't talk prices but is that decent compared to US prices?

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I can get it for $4,500 which is way below my quotes from retailers and it still has most of the warranty remaining. I know we can't talk prices but is that decent compared to US prices?

Thats a good price
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Well just so I am not guilty of false advertising. The JVC I have is a upscaled 4k, so not a true 4k like the Sony's. But it is still an improvement, there is an obvious difference. I sit 15 ft from a 115in screen.

No that's ok - I knew what you were talking about. 115" is your screen width and not diag right? So that's about 1.6x screen widths. My understanding is that's about the point where you can still see some benefit. In my case I am 15' from a 92" wide screen (1.95x) and I can't move the seating close and can't make the screen bigger. At least not without a major remodel, which I look forward to some day. 4K sounds great but it feels like a bummer to think that at best I may only get some marginal improvement in terms of resolution. Well at least there are some other benefits like xvColor that may be more obvious.
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4K sounds great but it feels like a bummer to think that at best I may only get some marginal improvement in terms of resolution.

I think that's true for 4K in any reasonable home theater situation.
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That sucks for the extra cost in Canada

Canadian prices are actually real good... i had called AVS during the preorder phase, and i was actually able to get for 200 more Canadian.. with a extra bulb, 2 RF glasses and RF module for the glasses.

it was around the 2g cheaper then retail...
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Canadian prices are actually real good... i had called AVS during the preorder phase, and i was actually able to get for 200 more Canadian.. with a extra bulb, 2 RF glasses and RF module for the glasses.

it was around the 2g cheaper then retail...


I find that most electronics are much more expensive in Canada than the US. Although like you I also got a pretty good pre order price on my JVC X500 and the extras.

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Canadian prices are actually real good... i had called AVS during the preorder phase, and i was actually able to get for 200 more Canadian.. with a extra bulb, 2 RF glasses and RF module for the glasses.

it was around the 2g cheaper then retail...

Wow! Thats a good deal you got!

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Well I took the plunge and went for the almost new projector. (originally purchased March 5th)

Is there any way to know if the lamp hours have been reset?

Also JVC didn't list the RS57 model for registering so I selected the x700.

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And this is my first JVC and my first high end projector so it will be a huge learning curve for me. Information overload for sure.

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Hey JVC gurus, need your input:

Long story short, I am about to sell my Sony 600ES (less than 100 hours) due to the wifey entering uncertain employment in the near future. I am hoping from the sale I will have enough to put $4000 into savings and around $4000 into a new projector. The obvious choice is the RS49. However, would much NOTICEABLE difference be gained from trying to stretch to the RS57?

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Another question for the projector Gurus:

If JVC or any projector manufacturer would do a quad flash(4e-shift) where each flash would light up 1/4 of the screen, thus 4 flashes would be required to build the full screen 4k image frame using a 1080 chip, theoretically would the light reflected off the screen appear 4 times as bright compared to the 1/4 screen brightness spread across the full screen?

If this is possible, JVC could give us 4x brightness 4k using 1080 chips.

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Hey JVC gurus, need your input:

Long story short, I am about to sell my Sony 600ES (less than 100 hours) due to the wifey entering uncertain employment in the near future. I am hoping from the sale I will have enough to put $4000 into savings and around $4000 into a new projector. The obvious choice is the RS49. However, would much NOTICEABLE difference be gained from trying to stretch to the RS57?

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I would definitely choose the 49. Performance will be close to the 57. The 49 is the way to go under $4000
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How is the 3D performance of the RS49?
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Another question for the projector Gurus:

If JVC or any projector manufacturer would do a quad flash(4e-shift) where each flash would light up 1/4 of the screen, thus 4 flashes would be required to build the full screen 4k image frame using a 1080 chip, theoretically would the light reflected off the screen appear 4 times as bright compared to the 1/4 screen brightness spread across the full screen?

If this is possible, JVC could give us 4x brightness 4k using 1080 chips.
I think brightness would be less because each quad would only be illuminated 1/4 of the time. That's ideal; actual would be even less.
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I would definitely choose the 49. Performance will be close to the 57. The 49 is the way to go under $4000

Just curious, but doesn't the 57 have double the native contrast ratio of the 49? I am not sure how much of that becomes perceptible though.

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Just curious, but doesn't the 57 have double the native contrast ratio of the 49? I am not sure how much of that becomes perceptible though.

Looking at cine4home CR numbers, I based my decision off that site.

Open iris, the 49 was 27k and the 57 was 31k
Mid iris, the 49 was 38k and 57 was 41k.
The DI perform the same in all models, around 350k

I would not use under -8 because my screen is only 1 gain. Zombie measured a big difference at -11, but I HP screen will be needed, but the almost invisible DI makes much for that on the 49. Plus, the 49 is a little bit brighter.

Heres the measurements for cine4home.com

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RS49 it is. Going to contact AVScience Monday for a price quote. I'll also have to get a few 3D glasses while I'm at it I suppose. And the RF transmitter.

And I'll have to read up on all things JVC since it is my first time owning one. I'm excited for the deeper blacks.....but overall sad I have to part with the 600ES.

Also, what is the difference between the 49 and 4910?
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RS49 it is. Going to contact AVScience Monday for a price quote. I'll also have to get a few 3D glasses while I'm at it I suppose. And the RF transmitter.

And I'll have to read up on all things JVC since it is my first time owning one. I'm excited for the deeper blacks.....but overall sad I have to part with the 600ES.

Also, what is the difference between the 49 and 4910?
For 3D glasses I would suggest the EStar RF glasses model ESG 6000 they are much less expensive then the JVCs and you can get a pair with the emitter included - they work great - check them out on Amazon.
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For 3D glasses I would suggest the EStar RF glasses model ESG 6000 they are much less expensive then the JVCs and you can get a pair with the emitter included - they work great - check them out on Amazon.

Is the emitter compatible with the JVC or does it need some sort of modification/do I still need the stock JVC emitter?
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Is the emitter compatible with the JVC or does it need some sort of modification/do I still need the stock JVC emitter?
Yes it is - you don't need the JVC emitter
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I think brightness would be less because each quad would only be illuminated 1/4 of the time. That's ideal; actual would be even less..

You're correct....it's just like shutter glasses for 3D.....50% of the light is lost by the shutting of one eye, here 75%. No advantage doing a quad flash as far as light output is concerned

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Yes it is - you don't need the JVC emitter
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RS49 it is. Going to contact AVScience Monday for a price quote. I'll also have to get a few 3D glasses while I'm at it I suppose. And the RF transmitter.

And I'll have to read up on all things JVC since it is my first time owning one. I'm excited for the deeper blacks.....but overall sad I have to part with the 600ES.

Also, what is the difference between the 49 and 4910?
4910 has extra year of warranty. Avs only sells 4910 not rs49
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Looking at cine4home CR numbers, I based my decision off that site.

Open iris, the 49 was 27k and the 57 was 31k
Mid iris, the 49 was 38k and 57 was 41k.
The DI perform the same in all models, around 350k

I would not use under -8 because my screen is only 1 gain. Zombie measured a big difference at -11, but I HP screen will be needed, but the almost invisible DI makes much for that on the 49. Plus, the 49 is a little bit brighter.

Heres the measurements for cine4home.com

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.cine4home.de/knowhow/Cine4Home_Edition_JVC_X500_X700/JVC_DLA_X500_X700_C4HEd.htm&usg=ALkJrhhxtliMyZ04OxJqBPrUkvH37vMtrQ

Interesting, very cool!

Just curious, how does my 4810 compare to the 4910 with contrast using these specs at a fixed iris?

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Interesting, very cool!

Just curious, how does my 4810 compare to the 4910 with contrast using these specs at a fixed iris?

When I had the 48, CR looked similar to me and the native of the 49 looks the same too. Its the fact you can get 300K with the DI which makes the 49 better than any jvc to date, other than the 57 and 67.
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