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Sony VPL-VW500ES incoming wink.gif

1. HDMI 2.0 Support
2. 9900€ / (9900$)
3. Picture:
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4. 1700 Lumen
5. Reality Creation 2
6. 200.000:1 Contrast
7. Wireless HDMI Box
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8. "Mastered in 4k" Support
9 TRILUMINOS Support
10. 3D with RF
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11. Auto Calibration for Colour
12. New Motionflow Technology

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Cool, but still to expensive imo. Hard to justify with Bluray and 1080p still going strong.
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9900 Euros converts to around $13k in US Dollars, so probably a MSRP of $12,999.00. I will be interested to hear from people who get to see it demonstrated at both IFA and Cedia. Lumens are listed at 1700 so calibrated it should be close in brightness to the HW50 at between 800-1000 lumens.

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I take it that it's native 4k?
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No, it will be 9900$ in USA!
YES, NATIVE 4k!
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Where did you hear that? That's not consistent with pricing that US dealers have.

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Whoot! A very reasonable price. That should be £8357. I hope they don't slap any more on for the UK market as we often pay in pounds what US pay in dollars. Just saw the VW500ES mentioned on the live Sony link from IFA. Looks like my VW95 is going on sale soon!
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Time to call my dealer to reserve my unit!

What the heck is TRILUMINOS Support on a projector? Wasn't that LED LCD only tech?

Great that they are doing RF for 3D.

Hopefully we get some more news on the speed of the panels.
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So purely speculating, if the VW1000ES is rated 2000 lumens and calibrates to around 1200-1300 lumens, the VW500ES should give you around 1100 'real' lumens. If it streets for under $10k then it will certainly give JVCs higher end models a run for their money.
Looks like a similar size to the VW1000 so I am guessing same chip size and similar if not same lens.

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$9900 really? That`s much cheaper than I expected
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More info here - with menu screenshots:

http://www.heimkinoraum.de/beamer/nach-herstellern/sony/sony-vpl-vw500-ultrahd-4k-3d-beamer-inklusive-heimkinoraum-edition-inkl-3d-brillen-316

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There is a spec sheet there as well, similar chassis size and lens shift, same chip size as the VW1000. When the dust settles and we find out how much this can be had for, could be very interesting

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I am pleased to announce that I have found this year's 'Holy Grail' of a home theater projector...Best overall picture ever to grace my current, or previous home theater...4K is an obvious next step for projectors in the home.
The 4K difference.
With 4096 x 2160 resolution and pixels one quarter the size of traditional 1080p projectors, 4K delivers smooth, lifelike images with fewer artifacts, even on the largest home theater screens (up to 180"). So sit closer to the action jagged edges and revealed pixels are a thing of the past.Wv7Zu
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No, it will be 9900$ in USA!
YES, NATIVE 4k!

That would be fantastic if MSRP is around $10k in US. Can't wait to hear from people who get to see it to see how it compares to the VW1000.

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Please post and link translations to English.

Mark what browser do you use? You know this can be set to automatically translate in modern ones, right? Like Chrome....

Or just go to Google translate and put the URL in.
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The full product sheet in English is here.
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The only real difference I can see is the lamp 265 w vs. 330w in the VW1000

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Wow! As usual with press conferences, this new PJ looks incredible! and if it streets for less than 10000USD, I wonder what JVC wil have to offer to top this? anxious to see real life contrast readings on this one...

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Unless something has changed, the MSRP is 15K

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Unless something has changed, the MSRP is 15K

Maybe Sony decided they want to actually sell some units? He did say affordable durring the press conference, to me 10 000 is affordable, 15 000 not so much wink.gif
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Sony's first 1080p projector was close to $30,000. A year or so later Sony introduced the 1080p Ruby at $10,000. The Ruby didn't have the same quality optics, but had a much higher contrast ratio. Those who don't learn from history are bound to relive it. biggrin.gif
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I doubt that they would sell it for $2000 less in Europe, generally everything is more expensive there... except perhaps wine ;-) Maybe the retail price will be reduced in the US?

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I should know soon. I emailed my Canadian dealer and he is usually the one to get projectors before anybody else (in the world sometimes, not joking, had the JVC X70 before anyone else). I hope to have a price very soon, and I hope it's acceptable.

BTW, Sony lamps are freaking amazing. I've put around 1800 hours on my 50es and it's still bright! JVC usually lasted me from 400-800 (I hate JVC **** lamps) hours and the Epson would dim at around 1400 hours.
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Maybe Sony decided they want to actually sell some units? He did say affordable durring the press conference, to me 10 000 is affordable, 15 000 not so much wink.gif

We will see. Anybody want to place a bet on who is right? smile.gif
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We will see. Anybody want to place a bet on who is right? smile.gif
Also called VW600ES in the US.

You should hope I'm right, or you won't be selling very many units. LOL
You obviously know more then me as a dealer when it comes to pricing on these. My enthusiasm just plummeted if it is indeed 15k
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We will see. Anybody want to place a bet on who is right? smile.gif
Also called VW600ES in the US.

I would bet on you but like Conan48 said you better hope he is right as at $15k MSRP you will sell far less than at $10k MSRP. At $10k MSRP I am deciding on what to sell in my home theater so I can call you and get on the preorder list when pricing is announced. wink.gif

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Yeah that is crummy if its $15k. Just saw the info on the 1100ES ... nothing very interesting about adding wireless hdmi and Hdmi 2.0. I was really hoping for something substantial.
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I should know soon. I emailed my Canadian dealer and he is usually the one to get projectors before anybody else (in the world sometimes, not joking, had the JVC X70 before anyone else). I hope to have a price very soon, and I hope it's acceptable.

BTW, Sony lamps are freaking amazing. I've put around 1800 hours on my 50es and it's still bright! JVC usually lasted me from 400-800 (I hate JVC **** lamps) hours and the Epson would dim at around 1400 hours.

Not sure if it is that Sony lamps are amazing, or just that the older JVC lamps kind of suck.

Heck, I've got a Viewsonic with 4000 hours on the lamp and the thing is still putting out around 450 lumens in ECO best mode, haha.
I've got a v3 JVC lamp with ONLY 380 hours on the lamp putting out around 350 lumens in ECO best mode with the IRIS fully open (ugh, it dimmed massively at 250 hours!)...
I will soon be getting my second potential dose of mercury unless I change the lamp soon.

I've got a Benq w7000 here with 2500 hours putting out about 650 lumens in ECO best mode.
My Friend's Epson 5010 has 2800 hours on the lamp now and is putting out about 180 lumens in ECO best mode, though to be fair it only started at about 500 on his particular mounting position.

I had a Sanyo z5 with 6200 hours on the lamp, though it was only doing about 80 lumens in best mode, maybe 300 in near-brightest mode.


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