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post #1051 of 1062 Old 07-18-2014, 10:56 PM
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I am hopefully optimistic that we will see 4K BD in 2015. I think the odds are in favor of it. I don't think there will be much available, but I think there will be something out there.
I believe the same thing myself. ...And in a new improved BD, with 100Gb of storage capacity.
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I am not at all optimistic. There are many changing factors and economic politics. I just don't see a standard being adopted early enough in 2015 to result in product and source material in 2015. Remember there is little clamor from the market. We can scream all we want but we are very very few and our screaming will be heard about as largely as 100 people screaming into the wind at the ocean during a storm. Its not where the bucks are which is probably no place any more re consumer electronics.

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Mike, you are definitely in that 1% that will take the necessary steps to actually install a system needed to make Atmos worthwhile. Wouldn't you agree that the vast majority of people aren't going to install a system like that? There are a lot of people on this forum that are in that 1%, but outside this forum...
Remember this can also easily be done by using speakers with an angled tweeter on top, bouncing the sound off of the ceiling. While in my opinion, that will not be as good as actually placing speakers in the proper location on/in the ceiling, it should still work very well. I suspect many people will consider adding Atmos, if that is all they have to do. Pioneer has a system out now http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...a+Home+Theater and others will soon follow.

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And if you ceiling is acoustically treated specifically to absorb the first reflection from each LCR as mine iswith the LCR flying above the screen with respect to the c and slightly down from screen top to the left and right of the screen for the LR angled up tweeters would be relatively useless.

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And if you ceiling is acoustically treated specifically to absorb the first reflection from each LCR as mine iswith the LCR flying above the screen with respect to the c and slightly down from screen top to the left and right of the screen for the LR angled up tweeters would be relatively useless.
Seegs was talking about the average person, not updating to Atmos, due to the problem of adding speakers/wiring. Very few of those guys have treated ceilings. What they might have is high ceilings or angled ceilings and that would be a problem. For those of us with dedicated rooms, we most likely would install ceiling speakers in the proper locations, if we were going to do Atmos.

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Arrow Blu-ray discs @ true 4K (Ultra High Definition) by 2016, @ the latest.

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I am not at all optimistic. There are many changing factors and economic politics. I just don't see a standard being adopted early enough in 2015 to result in product and source material in 2015. Remember there is little clamor from the market. We can scream all we want but we are very very few and our screaming will be heard about as largely as 100 people screaming into the wind at the ocean during a storm. Its not where the bucks are which is probably no place any more re consumer electronics.
In 2016 @ the latest; Blu-ray 10th anniversary.

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Been watching 4k material on my new LG G3, and it looks really good. Uploaded the same photos in 4k to view on the JVC X500/RS49 and it didn't look to bad, but not quite the images I see on my phone. If 4k blu ray can look as good as the 4k material I seen, I doubt people will be upgrading anytime soon once they get a 4k projector that have the full hdmi 2.0.
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They probably look "better" on your phone because it's smaller. That's a pretty universal "truth", that images look better (sharper, clearer) when they are smaller.

See what an anamorphoscopic lens can do, see movies the way they were meant to be seen
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They probably look "better" on your phone because it's smaller. That's a pretty universal "truth", that images look better (sharper, clearer) when they are smaller.
It doesn't hurt that the LG G3 is in fact a Quad HD Screen at that small size. It's definitely not a normal "small" cell phone as it's designed for high resolution and use HEVC H.265.

http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-phones/g...|e|48405391995

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They probably look "better" on your phone because it's smaller. That's a pretty universal "truth", that images look better (sharper, clearer) when they are smaller.

The 4K videos do look similar to the 4K TVs at Best Buy. I'll be interested to see how an actual 4K projector look since I haven't seen 4K material on a 4K projector yet. I hear it looks great also
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Its looks like a GREAT 1080p image but with a higher pixel density. A normal viewing distances it is not sharper nor more immersive than 1080p.

i think my sony 1100ES looks great but I think that has little to do that its 4K. Its a really high end machine and I am using a world class screen in a real good room. The promise of 4K won't exist until the color space increases and the bit length increase to handle the addressing of the additional colors and the addressing of a higher dynamic range. Getting nothing more than four times the pixels may be great for whatever reason one wants to come up with but until we get the other stuff it wont be err amazing. Although the threshold of amazing varies from observer to observer, the mean and median threshold is low and will normally be reached with the purchase of any new projector.

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