Originally Posted by Seegs108
Again, you're taking my comments out of context. You're basing your comments on my issue with Atmos as "the next big thing". I have no issue with Atmos as a technology. You're responding to my comments as if I think Atmos is terrible or something. You also seem to have a problem with me saying that dedicated speakers are better for Atmos? Can we agree on that at least? I know there is an easier solution by using a speaker that can simulate a dedicated speaker by bouncing the sound off of another surface, but using a dedicated speaker is the better solution. That's all I'm saying. Am I incorrect?
Yes in my opinion you are incorrect because most of the people who have heard the two home solutions (ceiling speakers vs dolby speakers with dedicated drivers firing upwards, there is no simulation) actually preferred the dolby speakers option (provided their ceiling is within 8-12 feet high and isn't treated in the area where the sound is reflected, which doesn't mean the ceiling can't be treated at all).
This include people with much more experience and knowledge on speaker design and implementation than you and I, some with an agenda as they designed some of the said speakers (and in the past designed some of the best conventional speakers, so they know what they are doing and speaking about) and some simply experienced people who were lucky enough to get a demo. Most of these were expecting to be disappointed by the Atmos speakers solution, and were genuinely surprised by the result, often preferring it when compared in the same room with ceiling speakers.
Atmos speakers ARE DEDICATED SPEAKERS
. They have discrete channels and drivers for the Atmos channels. They are NOT simulated. Using the ceiling to reflect the atmos speakers sound might in fact produce a more effective overhead effect because the sound is diffused instead of the source being exactly positioned. I personally have no idea because I haven't had a chance to hear any of the home solutions, so I keep an open mind.
Like most of us here, you haven't experienced either home solution, so while you are free to have an opinion about the way the technology will succeed or not vs 4K bluray, please do not state as facts things you have obviously not researched enough.
You seem to consider that Atmos speakers are like a sound bar which simulates a surround sound with only two channels playing on delay times. It's simply not the case.
So please do more research, and ideally get some first hand experience, before letting us know what you think. That would be really valuable, as your first hand experience is usually correct. Otherwise, it's just your opinion, and everyone has a right to - respectfully - disagree with you
Now as this is a 4K bluray thread, please could we get at least a little bit back on topic? I know I contributed to raise the AVR issue due to the lack of proper HDMI 2.0 implementation in the new models, but I was trying to remain on topic
. I'm starting to feel sorry for Ron's thread and for those who are going to come here to get info on 4K bluray.