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aircan's Avatar aircan 09:22 AM 07-03-2014
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Originally Posted by dougdude9 View Post
Hey aircan... I'm no pro and know very little when it comes to 3D, but I thought I would throw something out there. Are you playing it through a ps3 or ps4? If so I think there is something in the settings called 3D screen size or maybe just screen size. You might check that. I have a 95" screen and I set the size to 85 as recommended on some post I saw. I haven't had a problem. I'm pretty sure it was on the ps3 unless it is an option on the projector.

Hope this helps!

EDIT: I just checked and it looks like most blu-ray players have this screen size setting. I would start there in your troubleshooting!

Doug D.
Thanks Doug, I don't think the problem I have has to do with the screen size it's more when I crank up or down the 3d depth that those bars appear on each side, but that particular movie had the bars even when at 0, I watched other movies and they didn't have any bars so I guess it's probably that particular movie (Gamers) that has a problem, but I still find it odd that this 3D depth feature when adjusted to minus or plus will create those bars, basically this feature is useless or I have a problem with my projector, so far nobody seem to have tried it to verify my observations hopefully somebody will confirm.


Thanks again

smithysmythe's Avatar smithysmythe 04:49 PM 07-03-2014
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Originally Posted by aircan View Post
Thanks Doug, I don't think the problem I have has to do with the screen size it's more when I crank up or down the 3d depth that those bars appear on each side, but that particular movie had the bars even when at 0, I watched other movies and they didn't have any bars so I guess it's probably that particular movie (Gamers) that has a problem, but I still find it odd that this 3D depth feature when adjusted to minus or plus will create those bars, basically this feature is useless or I have a problem with my projector, so far nobody seem to have tried it to verify my observations hopefully somebody will confirm.


Thanks again
I don't see them at 0 or 1, but I sometimes see them at 2 or higher, or minus 2 or lower. I think it is content sensitive as well as different 3d players might contribute in some way. I do not get a solid 3d experience without having to shift the 3d depth several times on the Epson and it is a bit frustrating. But is my projector malfunctioning? I don't know, how do I know?
quenthal's Avatar quenthal 03:54 PM 07-05-2014
Is fan noise dependent of lamp mode and/or cinema/living room -modes? I.e. can one use living room -mode with eco lamp and get quite silent Epson?
Cyberathlete's Avatar Cyberathlete 12:56 AM 07-06-2014
So this happened today. Was watching a movie and everything was fine. Came back down after dinner and saw these blue lines on the right half of the screen.
I tested everything, After removing the HDMI cable from the projector it became evident the issue lies with the projector itself since the blue lines would still show on screen even when nothing but the power cable was connected to the projector. Sigh.


Cyberathlete's Avatar Cyberathlete 05:33 PM 07-07-2014
So this thread is pretty dead now eh?
smithysmythe's Avatar smithysmythe 04:25 AM 07-08-2014
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So this thread is pretty dead now eh?
Seems like it doesn't it?
WynsWrld98's Avatar WynsWrld98 10:05 PM 07-08-2014
People probably waiting for next round of Epson projectors likely announced at CEDIA in September... My warranty on my 6010 is up 2/2015 so I'm watching things closely to see what's coming for likely 5040/6040...
milacqua's Avatar milacqua 03:32 AM 07-09-2014
Last week my 6500ub was destroyed in a lightening strike (along with a bunch of other electronics) and the insurance guy came out a couple days ago to do the assessment. I have to wait a couple weeks before the adjuster calls me with the decision to repair or replace the projector. I am pretty sure from what the appraiser said it will be replaced and I am shooting for either the 5030 or 6030, however, they probably will not buy that due to the 3D capability. Although Epson will probably introduce new projectors at CEDIA, when do you think they will actually be going on sale? I can wait until September I suppose, maybe even October if the upgrade over the 5030 is significant. Does anyone have any idea when they would be available for sale and what the new projectors will be and contain?
kriktsemaj99's Avatar kriktsemaj99 06:33 AM 07-09-2014
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...Although Epson will probably introduce new projectors at CEDIA, when do you think they will actually be going on sale? I can wait until September I suppose, maybe even October if the upgrade over the 5030 is significant. Does anyone have any idea when they would be available for sale and what the new projectors will be and contain?

I pre-ordered my 5030 and got it in early November. So it usually takes a while after CEDIA for the new models to hit the streets.
milacqua's Avatar milacqua 06:38 AM 07-09-2014
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I pre-ordered my 5030 and got it in early November. So it usually takes a while after CEDIA for the new models to hit the streets.
Yea, that is what I thought. Depending on how much the insurance company gives me I guess I will just buy what is available at the time. Maybe the 5030/6030 will be discounted by then.
Keith Mickunas's Avatar Keith Mickunas 07:40 AM 07-09-2014
milacqua, I've been following this thread from it's beginning and as I recall it took quite some time before there was a lot of inventory of the 5030UB, and I don't believe the 5020UB was widely available or selling at much below list. Now the 6020 and 5020UBe were seeing some significant discounts compared to their normal list price. In fact I think the 5020UBe was occasionally found cheaper than the 5020UB list price. If you go back and read the first few hundred posts of this thread (I know, that's a lot to go through) you'll see what I mean.

So the long and short of it is I don't think you can rely on the 5030UB being found at a significant discount anytime soon, and definitely not in September. In fact there may be no excess inventory of it when the new version arrives.
gec5741's Avatar gec5741 09:54 AM 07-09-2014
yea I'm in the middle of my build. But i'm taking it slow so I truely may not be in the market till sometime around xmas or so. I've been following this thread since the beginning since originally I had planned to get the 5020ub, then for sure I was planning to get the 5030ub. So now I guess I'm planning on getting the 5040ub (if they follow the same naming convention). And I also do not remember seeing the 5020ub go down much in price after the new models hit the streets.
milacqua's Avatar milacqua 12:38 PM 07-09-2014
From what you say Keith, I'll probably have to bite the bullet and pay what they are asking. Of course, exactly what I get depends on the insurance settlement. I still have to fork over $1900 of my money due to deductibles no matter what.
dfwald's Avatar dfwald 01:57 PM 07-09-2014
I'll be buying a 5030UB soon to put in a dedicated media room with no windows and controllable light. I don't have the time to read all the threads here so can someone please summarize up what settings I should set it too for most accurate picture? I plan on using it in Eco mode. It will be just over 10 feet from a 1.3 gain screen so Eco should be bright enough plus the added benefit of longer bulb life. I want as accurate skin and other colors as possible. Can anyone help?
Craig Peer's Avatar Craig Peer 02:28 PM 07-09-2014
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I'll be buying a 5030UB soon to put in a dedicated media room with no windows and controllable light. I don't have the time to read all the threads here so can someone please summarize up what settings I should set it too for most accurate picture? I plan on using it in Eco mode. It will be just over 10 feet from a 1.3 gain screen so Eco should be bright enough plus the added benefit of longer bulb life. I want as accurate skin and other colors as possible. Can anyone help?

Have you read the write up at Projector Reviews ? They have some good info on various settings. Worth a read.


http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...jector-review/
AV Science Sales 5's Avatar AV Science Sales 5 06:50 AM 07-10-2014
Might want to call and ask about this projector, going on sale in a few days.
milacqua's Avatar milacqua 07:54 AM 07-10-2014
Good to know Mike. Like I said before, I bought my toasted 6500 from you (I'm pretty sure it was you) and had the tweak and check you do included. Thanks to that I enjoyed it for several years without issue until the storm hit me a couple weeks ago. It was a direct hit to my next door neighbor's house and although I had the projector on a good battery back up/surge protector, nothing could have survived that strike - and none of my equipment did survive except the blu-ray player.

The insurance guy that came out said he finds that electronic equipment that gets fried almost always looses hdmi and it does not take much for that to go. When we checked the component side of the projector by directly going from the blu-ray player, it did show the player's menu on the screen, however, when we put in a disk to play it reverted back to the "No signal" screen just like we got with hdmi. What ever controls or processes the input signal, regardless of the source, is what was destroyed. He did not say for certain but I got the impression his recommendation to the adjuster will be to replace rather than try to repair. The same for my Yamaha A/V receiver, phones, sprinkler control box, etc.

I will call you in about a week or so to see what pricing is available at that time. Of course, my budget might take a hit depending on what the insurance company gives me, less my $1,900 deductible that I have to pay up front. I'm sure I will have to battle them to get good replacement prices on my equipment. My biggest concern is that they will say the new stuff has 3D capability and they are not paying for that because the 6500ub was not a 3D projector. We shall see how it all plays out.
quenthal's Avatar quenthal 06:41 AM 07-15-2014
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Is fan noise dependent of lamp mode and/or cinema/living room -modes? I.e. can one use living room -mode with eco lamp and get quite silent Epson?
This is how it works in my old projector, but what about Epson?
scubasteve2365's Avatar scubasteve2365 07:42 AM 07-15-2014
If Epson were to stick with this chassis and release a 6040/5040 what could it in theory include?

They may make some contrast improvements or little bumps, but is it even plausible that it'd go 4k or otherwise touch a new significant bullet point?

Prior to the 5030 there were things missing, i.e., FI in 3D.

What is missing in the 5030, if anything, from a feature perspective? I'm trying to speculate what the next PJ could in theory be, mainly because I'm in the market for a new PJ and purchase time will be flirting with 5030 or it's successor. I don't want analysis paralysis, I'm just not sure how much better Epson could make this project at this price point.
gec5741's Avatar gec5741 08:17 AM 07-15-2014
Yea I've been wondering the same thing. I'll be in the market for a PJ around the time the 5040's will be coming out. Unless i can find a 5030 for an amaizingly cheap price I'm sure I'd be getting a 5040 seeing that last year the 5020's didn't seem to go down in price in a crazy way that I noticed at least. As far as features that they can add I don't know what really they could do and keep it in the same price point either.

4k is extreamly doubtful this year and even if it does come I highly doubt it would come in this projector and at a similar price point.
Lens memory would be nice but from what I've read on that feature it would also push it up in price.

I'm hoping myself for basic improvements in PQ, improved frame rates for gaming, and hopefully they will address the fan noise. Not that I own this pj and have had any issues with this myself but following this thread for the last year I've seen enough people complain about it so maybe they will quite it down a bit?

I'm sure I'm missing things that could be done. Maybe others can also speculate?
AV Science Sales 5's Avatar AV Science Sales 5 09:04 AM 07-15-2014
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post
If Epson were to stick with this chassis and release a 6040/5040 what could it in theory include?

They may make some contrast improvements or little bumps, but is it even plausible that it'd go 4k or otherwise touch a new significant bullet point?

Prior to the 5030 there were things missing, i.e., FI in 3D.

What is missing in the 5030, if anything, from a feature perspective? I'm trying to speculate what the next PJ could in theory be, mainly because I'm in the market for a new PJ and purchase time will be flirting with 5030 or it's successor. I don't want analysis paralysis, I'm just not sure how much better Epson could make this project at this price point.
If there is a 5040, I am sure that it will not be 4K. Epson has already leaked some info on their new high end LCOS projectors and those don't look like they will be 4K. MSRP on the most expensive is 7K. These LCOS projectors look to be the projectors Epson showed at 2011 CEDIA that failed to come out as announced. Showed them again in 2012 and again failed to bring to market. If these high end models are not 4K, you know the 5040 will not be 4K.
hal26's Avatar hal26 11:24 AM 07-15-2014
I have been reading so many of these posts that my head hurts! Simple question for you pros. Epson 5030UB to be used in a room 12 1/2 ft. wide and 18 1/2 ft. long. Prefer a screen size of 100 to 110 diagonal. Easiest setup for me is shelf mount which would locate the projector lens exactly 17 ft. from the screen and approx. 5 ft. high. Seating position is 14 ft. Is this throw distance less than ideal? Too far away for best 16:9 brightness? I can do a projector ceiling mount,if need be, at any point in the room (as long as it is higher than my 6'4" height -don't want to bump my head!) if it would result in more brightness and picture quality. I have read all the formulas and how-to's in a failed attempt to figure it out but my feeble old brain just cannot compute...throw range for the Epson is 1.34 to 2.87. I plan on using a quality screen. Please just keep it simple! Shelf mount vs. ceiling? Thanks in advance!
Craig Peer's Avatar Craig Peer 11:48 AM 07-15-2014
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I have been reading so many of these posts that my head hurts! Simple question for you pros. Epson 5030UB to be used in a room 12 1/2 ft. wide and 18 1/2 ft. long. Prefer a screen size of 100 to 110 diagonal. Easiest setup for me is shelf mount which would locate the projector lens exactly 17 ft. from the screen and approx. 5 ft. high. Seating position is 14 ft. Is this throw distance less than ideal? Too far away for best 16:9 brightness? I can do a projector ceiling mount,if need be, at any point in the room (as long as it is higher than my 6'4" height -don't want to bump my head!) if it would result in more brightness and picture quality. I have read all the formulas and how-to's in a failed attempt to figure it out but my feeble old brain just cannot compute...throw range for the Epson is 1.34 to 2.87. I plan on using a quality screen. Please just keep it simple! Shelf mount vs. ceiling? Thanks in advance!

Try this my friend - http://www.epson.com/alf_upload/land...ce-calculator/


Also note that Epson 5030's are currently on sale !
AV Science Sales 5's Avatar AV Science Sales 5 12:02 PM 07-15-2014
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Originally Posted by hal26 View Post
I have been reading so many of these posts that my head hurts! Simple question for you pros. Epson 5030UB to be used in a room 12 1/2 ft. wide and 18 1/2 ft. long. Prefer a screen size of 100 to 110 diagonal. Easiest setup for me is shelf mount which would locate the projector lens exactly 17 ft. from the screen and approx. 5 ft. high. Seating position is 14 ft. Is this throw distance less than ideal? Too far away for best 16:9 brightness? I can do a projector ceiling mount,if need be, at any point in the room (as long as it is higher than my 6'4" height -don't want to bump my head!) if it would result in more brightness and picture quality. I have read all the formulas and how-to's in a failed attempt to figure it out but my feeble old brain just cannot compute...throw range for the Epson is 1.34 to 2.87. I plan on using a quality screen. Please just keep it simple! Shelf mount vs. ceiling? Thanks in advance!
In a 18.5' deep room the projector throw is going to be a max of 16'-8" and that is only allowing 4" behind the projector. You should give it 6". At 14' viewing distance, I would never consider a 100" diagonal 16:9 screen. That is too small. That viewing ratio would be 1.93 screen widths. Even 110" is 1.75 screen widths. I would shoot more for closer to 1.5 and go with a 120" to 133" diagonal 16:9 screen.

If you room has good light control (dark walls and dark ceiling) then a 1.0 gain 100" screen works well. At 110", I would look at 1.0 to 1.3 gain, using the same assumption about light control. At 120" to 133", I would want to use a 1.3 gain screen. I am using best image mode numbers for this projector, not living room mode.
hal26's Avatar hal26 12:18 PM 07-15-2014
Thanks Mike for your kind advice. I bought a cheap,temporary 106" screen and have the PJ on a box approx. 30 inches off the floor and around 12 ft. from the screen just to get some hands on experience before diving into this project. I must say that the 110 size would be as large as I could go without being overwhelmed. So in your expert opinion a 110" with a shelf mount pj would be just as bright and crisp as a ceiling mount that I assume could be placed several feet closer to the screen. Looking for just the right mix of size and quality. Hal
TMA1's Avatar TMA1 01:02 PM 07-15-2014
Just wanted to say that you get used to large image very quick and soon you want to go bigger. I have never yet met anyone saying they went too big when it comes to screen-size.
AV Science Sales 5's Avatar AV Science Sales 5 01:24 PM 07-15-2014
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Thanks Mike for your kind advice. I bought a cheap,temporary 106" screen and have the PJ on a box approx. 30 inches off the floor and around 12 ft. from the screen just to get some hands on experience before diving into this project. I must say that the 110 size would be as large as I could go without being overwhelmed. So in your expert opinion a 110" with a shelf mount pj would be just as bright and crisp as a ceiling mount that I assume could be placed several feet closer to the screen. Looking for just the right mix of size and quality. Hal
Shoot a 115" to 120" image onto the wall and use that as your screen for a week or two. You will quickly get used to the size. If you go 106", I predict that you will be screen shopping or wanting to be screen shopping within a year. This is making an assumption that you do not sit at the very back of a commercial movie theater, when going to see a movie.
gec5741's Avatar gec5741 01:37 PM 07-15-2014
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Try this my friend - http://www.epson.com/alf_upload/land...ce-calculator/



Also note that Epson 5030's are currently on sale !

Hey Craig, Where can I see or find out the sale price on the 5030ub?

Thanks in advance!
Craig Peer's Avatar Craig Peer 02:27 PM 07-15-2014
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Hey Craig, Where can I see or find out the sale price on the 5030ub?

Thanks in advance!
Call one of us at AV Science - " operators are standing by ( in their home theaters ) to take your call " !
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trolly's Avatar trolly 07:53 AM 07-19-2014
Last night I ran Audyssey after making some speaker position changes and the lamp indicator on my still very new 5030 was flashing. I turned the projector off for a few minutes then back on and it worked normal. I have 30 hours on the lamp; should I contact Epson or could this have just been a non-issue.


Thanks!
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