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I plan on getting this projector for my living room. I have big windows but have blacked out curtains so light is controlable. Anyone have idea how big of a screen I can get with 12ft from wall to wall? I plan to go with Black Diamond Zero Edge 1.4 gain screen.

Also, is it worth the extra cost for wireless? is it stable enough and reliable?

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Guys with projectors like the Epson, might be interested in a new anamorphic lens that is in development. See this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-dig...orph-lens.html

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^ The 5300 has no anamorphic stretch (the 6300 does). Also this new lens seems to be of low enough quality that it needs colour correction at the edges. Maybe the Epson panel alignment feature could be used for that, but I'm not sure the result would be pretty.
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I plan on getting this projector for my living room. I have big windows but have blacked out curtains so light is controlable. Anyone have idea how big of a screen I can get with 12ft from wall to wall? I plan to go with Black Diamond Zero Edge 1.4 gain screen.

Also, is it worth the extra cost for wireless? is it stable enough and reliable?

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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^ The 5300 has no anamorphic stretch (the 6300 does). Also this new lens seems to be of low enough quality that it needs colour correction at the edges. Maybe the Epson panel alignment feature could be used for that, but I'm not sure the result would be pretty.
Yes, 5030 does have color correction. You would need another device to do the vertical stretch. Many AVR's and some BD players do vertical stretch. You could also get a video processor.

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Looks like I will get 92" screen image from 11ft (projector lens). Thanks a lot!

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Looks like I will get 92" screen image from 11ft (projector lens). Thanks a lot!
With a 5030 and 11' throw, you can go as small as 63" diagonal on up to 135" diagonal.

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With a 5030 and 11' throw, you can go as small as 63" diagonal on up to 135" diagonal.
So any screen from 92" to 135" will work fine? The max I would do is 100" for now maybe in the future i'll upgrade.

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So any screen from 92" to 135" will work fine? The max I would do is 100" for now maybe in the future i'll upgrade.
No, not any screen in between those sizes will work. You have to take gain into account and size the screen accordingly. The projector can throw the size image that I gave you, but as I said many other things have to be considered.

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No, not any screen in between those sizes will work. You have to take gain into account and size the screen accordingly. The projector can throw the size image that I gave you, but as I said many other things have to be considered.
The calculator says I can get a 92" screen size at 11" throw.

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The calculator says I can get a 92" screen size at 11" throw.
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The calculator says I can get a 92" screen size at 11" throw.
Yes you can and the projector can shoot the sizes I gave you from 11', but some screens require a specified throw distance. This is usually a multiplier of screen width. So while the projector can shoot 135" from 11', some screens in the range the projector can shoot will not work, due to the required throw distance.

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Yes you can and the projector can shoot the sizes I gave you from 11', but some screens require a specified throw distance. This is usually a multiplier of screen width. So while the projector can shoot 135" from 11', some screens in the range the projector can shoot will not work, due to the required throw distance.
To be specific, I'm getting a Black Diamond Zero Edge 92" 1.4 gain. Do you know if these require specified throw distance?

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To be specific, I'm getting a Black Diamond Zero Edge 92" 1.4 gain. Do you know if these require specified throw distance?
Minimum throw for that screen is 10', so you are a little bit past the minimum. Also AV Science is an SI dealer.

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Minimum throw for that screen is 10', so you are a little bit past the minimum. Also AV Science is an SI dealer.
Will that be an issue? Should I just get a 100"?

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Will that be an issue? Should I just get a 100"?
11' works with the 92", but a longer throw would be better. Minimum throw with 100" is 10'-10.5" so you would just barely be long enough at 11'. With a BD screen, the minimum throw is 1.5 times the viewing width.

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11' works with the 92", but a longer throw would be better. Minimum throw with 100" is 10'-10.5" so you would just barely be long enough at 11'. With a BD screen, the minimum throw is 1.5 times the viewing width.
I'll go with the 92" then for now. Does the Epson auto detect the screen size when calibrating?

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I'll go with the 92" then for now. Does the Epson auto detect the screen size when calibrating?
No. You use the manual zoom, manual focus and manual lens shift to fit the image to the size screen. This is a one time adjustment.

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Hi all,

late last year I bought myself the Epson 5030UB projector. I still haven't really used it because we first needed to do a large rebuild of our garage into our new family room. However, in a few weeks it should be ready (hurray!) and i'm working on having the projector installed.

I've been looking at screens but to be honest it's not really clear to me what the maximum screen size should reasonably be. We've got the space to go to at least 130" - 136" without any problems (it's a large space). But i'm worried that the projector won't be able to generate a satisfactory image at these sizes (even though Epson's own calculator says it can throw the image).

Who has some (personal) experience in somewhat larger screens and would like to give me some pointers?

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The screen is too large to light it up adequately in its best picture quality mode (THX) but the projector will do fine it its 'Living Room' mode. Living room mode can look very good and many will be satisfied with it and if calibrated can even be better. Now if you are an enthusiast you might prefer a projector that is brighter in its best mode like the Sony 55 but I would try the Epson first. I would go with the larger screen, projectors are getting brighter and you will be happy you did.
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It all depends on how far from the screen you will be mounting the projector also. There are calculators out there on the web that you can punch in your projector and the numbers and it will tell you the "recommended" distance and screen size etc. My Epson 5030UB is mounted on the back wall so lens to screen I'm around 15 feet. I have a 135" screen and I have movies set on eco/Cinema mode. I feel it looks great and I'm not killing my bulb. Sports I have it set to eco/living room mode. Living room is a bit brighter and I could also use that for movies but I tend to like the look of cinema mode personally. I've not had mine calibrated and probably won't spend the money. Who knows maybe on the next bulb I may but now I'm just going to wait for this one to die before spending money on professional calibration. I could probably get away with using THX mode in my setup but it does get a tad dark. I recommend you look at a projector calculator like this one http://www.projectorcentral.com/proj...ulator-pro.cfm Get an idea of the proper distance for the max size screen you'd like to go. Then before ever purchasing a screen get it all setup and shine it on the bare wall for a good month. Change the screen size to different sizes and mark them out with tape on the corners. This way you can see for yourself what the sizes will look like and get a sense of your seating and distance to screen size etc. Then you will know better on what size screen to spend your hard earned money on.
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The screen is too large to light it up adequately in its best picture quality mode (THX) but the projector will do fine it its 'Living Room' mode. Living room mode can look very good and many will be satisfied with it and if calibrated can even be better. Now if you are an enthusiast you might prefer a projector that is brighter in its best mode like the Sony 55 but I would try the Epson first. I would go with the larger screen, projectors are getting brighter and you will be happy you did.
Yes, this is my personal fear; it might be a tad too large for THX. On the other hand, this is the first time i've ever been able to have 100% free range on what I can / can't do with my projection room ;-).
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It all depends on how far from the screen you will be mounting the projector also. There are calculators out there on the web that you can punch in your projector and the numbers and it will tell you the "recommended" distance and screen size etc. My Epson 5030UB is mounted on the back wall so lens to screen I'm around 15 feet. I have a 135" screen and I have movies set on eco/Cinema mode. I feel it looks great and I'm not killing my bulb. Sports I have it set to eco/living room mode. Living room is a bit brighter and I could also use that for movies but I tend to like the look of cinema mode personally. I've not had mine calibrated and probably won't spend the money. Who knows maybe on the next bulb I may but now I'm just going to wait for this one to die before spending money on professional calibration. I could probably get away with using THX mode in my setup but it does get a tad dark. I recommend you look at a projector calculator like this one http://www.projectorcentral.com/proj...ulator-pro.cfm Get an idea of the proper distance for the max size screen you'd like to go. Then before ever purchasing a screen get it all setup and shine it on the bare wall for a good month. Change the screen size to different sizes and mark them out with tape on the corners. This way you can see for yourself what the sizes will look like and get a sense of your seating and distance to screen size etc. Then you will know better on what size screen to spend your hard earned money on.
Thanks, that's a clear and sound advice, I'll start mapping tomorrow ;-) I have full control over screen size and placement of the beamer; 15 feet would be no issue (the room is over 11 metric meters long; about 40 feet). It less of a space issue than a 'security' issue, I don't want to invest in a screen that wouldn't fit the beamer (or vice versa). Do you have a 'standard' 1.0 gain screen or something more akin to 1.1 / 1.2?
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I have an Epson 5030ub, 18 Feet from screen, Eco Mode, and I believe Cinema Mode (not at home so couldn't check) Regardless, I painted my wall for 2 screen sizes, 2:35:1 and 16x9 in order to test sizes etc before making a screen purchase. 2:35:1 won out by a landslide and I'm currently at a 136" screen size. Pics attached. Picture is gorgeous, the projector is more than capable of shooting the image from 18' and again, that's not using the Brighter Lamp Mode. The paint references an approximate 1.0 gain. IMO no need for a higher gain than that, but it's personal preference. It's a dedicated HT, light is totally controlled. Hope this is helpful..RT
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Is this projector anywhere near dlp sharpness?
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I briefly owned a Benq W1070 and an Epson EH-TW8200 (5030UB), to my eyes the sharpness on the 5030UB was as good as the W1070, especially with the super resolution mode on the 5030UB.
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Is this projector anywhere near dlp sharpness?
Doubtful, DLP is known for sharpness vs LCD but I'm running with Super Resolution and a Darbee and I have ZERO issues with sharpness and am pretty sure the black levels I'm getting from the Epson blow away black levels of most any DLP so to me I find the 5030 an exceptional value "bang for the buck".
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Doubtful, DLP is known for sharpness vs LCD but I'm running with Super Resolution and a Darbee and I have ZERO issues with sharpness and am pretty sure the black levels I'm getting from the Epson blow away black levels of most any DLP so to me I find the 5030 an exceptional value "bang for the buck".
The 5030 is great bang for the buck, especially while on sale at $1,999. Sale ends on 29th, so only a few days left.

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