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I guess ill roll the dice and see what the next replacement does
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I have had my 9200W for around 18 months now, I have now got an image shimmer/Shake Ive tightened everthing up on the mount but got this annoying shake its on minor but it is off puttting to me. Any ideas anyone please?
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I have had my 9200W for around 18 months now, I have now got an image shimmer/Shake Ive tightened everthing up on the mount but got this annoying shake its on minor but it is off puttting to me. Any ideas anyone please?
Is it always shaking? Mine shakes slightly when someone walks in a specific area of my kitchen which is a room over, or if someone hits my left wall in the living room. It doesn't mess the alignment of the projector and screen or anything. Fairly normal. The question you're asking would be for your specific mount, not the projector if I'm understanding you correctly. If you have a two story house and the projector is on the bottom floor, it will probably shake when people walk around above it.

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Is it always shaking? Mine shakes slightly when someone walks in a specific area of my kitchen which is a room over, or if someone hits my left wall in the living room. It doesn't mess the alignment of the projector and screen or anything. Fairly normal. The question you're asking would be for your specific mount, not the projector if I'm understanding you correctly. If you have a two story house and the projector is on the bottom floor, it will probably shake when people walk around above it.

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I should be more clear sorry! I live in a bungalolw so single story. the image constantly has a shimmer/shake more noticible on text. I have only just noticed this but it is annoying, it isnt noticble on movies, however I know its there.

I have everyhing going through my Pioneer LX87 amp, and stream everything through my Nas drives into Med1000. I never had this problem until the last few days.

I have sent colour mode to different settings to slow the fan down to see if that was the cause but it's made no difference.
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I should be more clear sorry! I live in a bungalolw so single story. the image constantly has a shimmer/shake more noticible on text. I have only just noticed this but it is annoying, it isnt noticble on movies, however I know its there.

I have everyhing going through my Pioneer LX87 amp, and stream everything through my Nas drives into Med1000. I never had this problem until the last few days.

I have sent colour mode to different settings to slow the fan down to see if that was the cause but it's made no difference.

Anyone!
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You should plug a different video source (laptop maybe) directly and eliminate any chance of it being the AVR or your source. The idea is to make the setup as simple as can be for trouble shooting purposes and then add components back in one by one to narrow down the cause or combination of devices causing the issue. Good Luck.
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Hey all. Anyone have an idea when the next generation to the 5030 will be out? Thanks. Considering upgrading but would like an idea when the next gen will be out. Thx


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Just to 2nd what Jaysong wrote. Use a different input directly into the projector to rule out the receiver. Plug a DVD/Blueray player, Xbox, PlayStation, etc. directly into the projector, and see if the shimmer is still evident. If it still happens using several input directly, you know it's the projector. If you find that it really is the projector, it might be time to check out a repair facility. But it might be something else entirely.
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OEM bulb replacement question

Coming up on two years ownership of my 5030ub, and looking into replacing the bulb. This is my first projector and bulb replacement experience.

What is the difference between this $299 5030ub replacement bulb offered by Epson...

...versus any of the much less-expensive bulbs from online sellers shown here?

This price difference is significant, so wondering what I'm missing?
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Coming up on two years ownership of my 5030ub, and looking into replacing the bulb. This is my first projector and bulb replacement experience.

What is the difference between this $299 5030ub replacement bulb offered by Epson...

...versus any of the much less-expensive bulbs from online sellers shown here?

This price difference is significant, so wondering what I'm missing?
One is a genuine lamp, made by a trusted manufacturer, under strict conditions of quality control and offered with the guarantee of the brand behind behind it. The other isn't. The cheap lamp could last half the time, it could have color aberrations, it could blow up, etc. There's a reason it's cheap.

I could post a similar post, showing your Epson PJ and a different PJ at a fraction of the cost. Would you say then that the cheaper PJ was as good as your Epson? Or a genuine alternative to it?
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One is a genuine lamp, made by a trusted manufacturer, under strict conditions of quality control and offered with the guarantee of the brand behind behind it. The other isn't. The cheap lamp could last half the time, it could have color aberrations, it could blow up, etc. There's a reason it's cheap.

I could post a similar post, showing your Epson PJ and a different PJ at a fraction of the cost. Would you say then that the cheaper PJ was as good as your Epson? Or a genuine alternative to it?
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Coming up on two years ownership of my 5030ub, and looking into replacing the bulb. This is my first projector and bulb replacement experience.

What is the difference between this $299 5030ub replacement bulb offered by Epson...

...versus any of the much less-expensive bulbs from online sellers shown here?

This price difference is significant, so wondering what I'm missing?
I'd say you get what you pay for with Epson lamps. I've read hundreds of reviews all over the Internet about the bargain lamps and how they are sub-par and last less than half as long for the most part.
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Undoubtedly there ARE things you can save money on buying aftermarket parts. Some genuine parts you do pay just for the “label”. The HARD part is figuring out where you can save the money and where it’s not actually worth it.

I tried once several years by buying a cheap battery for my wife’s macbook, it lasted about 6 months and then puffed out so much it almost cracked the laptop. Learned that lesson.

My rule of thumb now is anything that ‘wears out’, you’re probably better off going with the genuine, I think projector light bulbs fall into this category.

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Hey all. Anyone have an idea when the next generation to the 5030 will be out? Thanks. Considering upgrading but would like an idea when the next gen will be out. Thx
I bought a 5030 about 4 months ago and I had the same question. The answer is, if there was a new model it would have been announced in September at CEDIA 2015. There WERE epson projectors announced there but AFAIK they were all "non 3d", 1920x1200 models. There was no "5040", I'm not sure if any compare to the 5030, i can't get my head around all the different models.

Secondly, and this is the reason I bought one before even knowing what was going to be announced at CEDIA, you can get very good deals on the 5030 at the moment, far below RRP. If a new model comes out, you won't get it anywhere for as cheap as you can get a 5030 right now.

Lastly, the advance of projectors for the last 2 or 3 models hasn't been "leaps and bounds", it's been a slow incremental improvement. A little bit better here and there, so even if a new model did come out, it will have just a couple of improvements on what is already a industry leading projector. It's not like the new model will have 4k for the same price.

If you can afford this projector now, there's no reason to wait, you won't be disappointed with this projector.
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I bought a 5030 about 4 months ago and I had the same question. The answer is, if there was a new model it would have been announced in September at CEDIA 2015. There WERE epson projectors announced there but AFAIK they were all "non 3d", 1920x1200 models. There was no "5040", I'm not sure if any compare to the 5030, i can't get my head around all the different models.

Secondly, and this is the reason I bought one before even knowing what was going to be announced at CEDIA, you can get very good deals on the 5030 at the moment, far below RRP. If a new model comes out, you won't get it anywhere for as cheap as you can get a 5030 right now.

Lastly, the advance of projectors for the last 2 or 3 models hasn't been "leaps and bounds", it's been a slow incremental improvement. A little bit better here and there, so even if a new model did come out, it will have just a couple of improvements on what is already a industry leading projector. It's not like the new model will have 4k for the same price.

If you can afford this projector now, there's no reason to wait, you won't be disappointed with this projector.

Thanks for that info. You hit the nail on the head on a few points. I think were 2-3 years away from native 4K to the masses and around 3k$ price point. We have hit the point of diminished returns on 1080. I have the 8350 and was very happy with it for years. 1999$ with free mounts bulbs etc right now. Can't beat that.

Can someone tell me if the 5030 has a vertical stretch mode for taking a 2.35 movie and vertically stretching it to the full 16:9 native height? This would allow me to run an anamorphic lens on it. Without that feature I'll need an outboard processor. Thanks for the help.


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Can someone tell me if the 5030 has a vertical stretch mode for taking a 2.35 movie and vertically stretching it to the full 16:9 native height? This would allow me to run an anamorphic lens on it. Without that feature I'll need an outboard processor. Thanks for the help.
Unfortunately, no. The 6030 does, but the 5030 doesn't. You'd need a scalar like the Lumagen to do it...or a PC if you want to go that route.
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Unfortunately, no. The 6030 does, but the 5030 doesn't. You'd need a scalar like the Lumagen to do it...or a PC if you want to go that route.

Thx. That's what I thought. Happy Thanksgiving all.


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Can someone tell me if the 5030 has a vertical stretch mode for taking a 2.35 movie and vertically stretching it to the full 16:9 native height? This would allow me to run an anamorphic lens on it. Without that feature I'll need an outboard processor. Thanks for the help.
This is one of the few distinguishing features between the 5030 and the 6030, the 6030 has this feature built in, the 5030 does not.
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Hello,

New owner of 5030ube ... could somebody point me to a post # for settings under cinema mode or thx that most people use on here...

also is firmware V111 the newest?


thanks guys.
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Hello,

I just upgraded to TW-9200 and after 7 hours have a red spot which is only visable in dark scenes (see link). I guess its dust inside. Anyone had anything similar or a fix that doesn't invalidate warranty. I'd rather not send it back just for a bit of dust if possible especially so close to xmas!!
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Hello,

I just upgraded to TW-9200 and after 7 hours have a red spot which is only visable in dark scenes (see link). I guess its dust inside. Anyone had anything similar or a fix that doesn't invalidate warranty. I'd rather not send it back just for a bit of dust if possible especially so close to xmas!!
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You should just contact Epson. In theory, they send you a new one in just a couple of days if not faster.
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Cheers man,,, Yeah I'm thinkin that too... Just bad luck I suppose. Seriously impressed with it though...

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Hello,

New owner of 5030ube ... could somebody point me to a post # for settings under cinema mode or thx that most people use on here...

also is firmware V111 the newest?


thanks guys.
I'm only a relatively new owner too but my understanding from reading several reviews is that unlike with TVs which are calibrated to be "showroom" out of the box and NEED to be calibrated at home, this projector's THX/Cinema mode is pretty much "spot on," short of being professionally calibrated. Further, the individual variance between units would make a "use this setting" recommendation next to useless, because your unit would most likely require slightly different settings. Otherwise, someone could just calibrate one unit professional once and then sell just the settings they used.

I haven't touched most of the settings of cinema mode, I've played with the sharpness, super resolution and frame interpolation, but I think that's much more up to personal preference and what content you mostly watch.

If you aren't happy with the way it looks and want to try adjusting it there's this article which goes into quite a lot of detail about calibration

http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...tion-settings/

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This is one of the few distinguishing features between the 5030 and the 6030, the 6030 has this feature built in, the 5030 does not.
Just for the record, that is true in the USA but here in Europe the 5030 has the anamorphic stretch feature (but no THX mode). (It is called the 9200 in Europe not the 5030, but is, other than the features mentioned, the same unit). I guess someone at Epson thought us Brits (etc) would value the anamorphic stretch more than THX (they’re right in my case) but it's an odd decision nonetheless.
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Just for the record, that is true in the USA but here in Europe the 5030 has the anamorphic stretch feature (but no THX mode). (It is called the 9200 in Europe not the 5030, but is, other than the features mentioned, the same unit). I guess someone at Epson thought us Brits (etc) would value the anamorphic stretch more than THX (they’re right in my case) but it's an odd decision nonetheless.
Yeah I though that odd too. Why not just add both features to US and Europe. Maybe THX costs more money worldwide? Incidentally can the THX settings be inputted into European models then? If so does anyone have the settings? Not that I'm unhappy with the colour as it seems more or less perfect in cinema , but just curious really...

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Yeah I though that odd too. Why not just add both features to US and Europe. Maybe THX costs more money worldwide? Incidentally can the THX settings be inputted into European models then? If so does anyone have the settings? Not that I'm unhappy with the colour as it seems more or less perfect in cinema , but just curious really...
IDK - I calibrate my PJ with Calman so haven't tried anything else.

I assume that THX license costs more the more countries you offer it in. Maybe they believe THX isn't so influential in Europe?
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Interestingly, when I measured the default THX mode when I first got my 5030, I found that RGB were all undersaturated at 100%. That's why I always calibrate it using Cinema Mode.
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Hi guys,

Is anyone here running a 5030 (or even 5020 or 5010) with a first row viewing distance of 1.0x the screen diagonal and, if so, can you comment on picture quality?
I am contemplating a first row with eye balls 12 feet (cannot be moved back) from a 140 inch diagonal screen and wondering if pixellation will be so bad that I will want a 4k projector for such a close viewing distance.
Any advice or experiences would be welcome.

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Is anyone here running a 5030 (or even 5020 or 5010) with a first row viewing distance of 1.0x the screen diagonal and, if so, can you comment on picture quality?
I am contemplating a first row with eye balls 12 feet (cannot be moved back) from a 140 inch diagonal screen and wondering if pixellation will be so bad that I will want a 4k projector for such a close viewing distance.
Any advice or experiences would be welcome.

Thanks.
I have a 5030UB, sitting about 11 feet back from a 120" 1.1 gain screen. I don't notice any pixellation at all, and I'm very happy with the image quality. While I'm picky about the video quality, I'm by NO stretch a "videophile."

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Is anyone here running a 5030 (or even 5020 or 5010) with a first row viewing distance of 1.0x the screen diagonal and, if so, can you comment on picture quality?
I am contemplating a first row with eye balls 12 feet (cannot be moved back) from a 140 inch diagonal screen and wondering if pixellation will be so bad that I will want a 4k projector for such a close viewing distance.
Any advice or experiences would be welcome.

Thanks.
Got a 100" screen, sitting at 11 feet and I see screen door effect. Especially with 720p and lower resolution. Slightly noticeable at 1080p (but I see it).

With that being said, it doesn't bother me that much.
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