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post #5881 of 5900 Unread 07-15-2016, 04:39 PM
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looks good. I decided to get the 5030UB myself. Will be here Tuesday!

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looks good. I decided to get the 5030UB myself. Will be here Tuesday!
I just bought the 5025. Its got 200 less lumens that the 5030 and no 3D glasses, but otherwise its the same machine. Mine comes on Tuesday as well - I cant wait!
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Hi everyone, I tested the 9200 against the new Sony 45ES and decided to go with the Epson. It was installed yesterday and I could not be happier. The picture is incredible. It's quiet, blacks are super impressive ...
Glad to hear you're enjoying the projector - it's a great machine, and I'm still very pleased with mine as well after a few years of ownership. That's a very sharp clean, white look in your theatre room, with the white walls, speakers, etc. - but it's far from an ideal setup for getting the best out of a (any) projector. You'd be amazed at how much of a difference you would see in black levels and contrast when viewing in a dark environment, that is not reflecting all that light back onto the screen and washing out the image.
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Glad to hear you're enjoying the projector - it's a great machine, and I'm still very pleased with mine as well after a few years of ownership. That's a very sharp clean, white look in your theatre room, with the white walls, speakers, etc. - but it's far from an ideal setup for getting the best out of a (any) projector. You'd be amazed at how much of a difference you would see in black levels and contrast when viewing in a dark environment, that is not reflecting all that light back onto the screen and washing out the image.
Yes it's something I've considered but not a priority. I'll probably paint the wall behind the screen black but I'm not too keen on changing the color scheme of the whole room.

We have a 60" LG plasma in our living area that will be used for daytime viewing and the Epson will be for the evenings when the room is completely dark.

Certainly hear what you're saying though.
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And I should add that the picture of Gandalf from FotR was taken before we had tweaked the settings and it was still light outside so the room wasn't at its darkest. The rest of the pictures were taken later in the evening.
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Thanks for the pics.... Not enough of that here like in the old days.
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I just bought the 5025. Its got 200 less lumens that the 5030 and no 3D glasses, but otherwise its the same machine. Mine comes on Tuesday as well - I cant wait!
Cool. I'm surprised you could still find a 5025. The black level difference between this and the Sony 45es was the deciding factor for me. The blacks on the Sony are very good but when the scenes get dark there is a big difference. The Sony looks great out of the box but the Epson has more calibrated potential and I do plan on having it calibrated.

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Cool. I'm surprised you could still find a 5025. The black level difference between this and the Sony 45es was the deciding factor for me. The blacks on the Sony are very good but when the scenes get dark there is a big difference. The Sony looks great out of the box but the Epson has more calibrated potential and I do plan on having it calibrated.
I bought the Epson 3500 from Best Buy but will be returning. The black levels were good, but not great.

I am hoping to see a big difference with the 5025. Let us know if and when you calibrate!
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Back on my brightness measurements. Interestingly my lamp is back to it's previous higher readings. I had seen a significant drop all the sudden around 500 hours, but now it seems to have recovered. Makes no sense other than I did notice some flickering while the level was reading lower and now it's not. Must be some weird quirk.

So if this holds now (have to wait and see I guess), I'm at 500+ hours and no significant drop in brightness.
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I received my 5030ub Tuesday. This thing has perfect panel alignment. It is spot on. The colors, gamma, etc. also look fantastic. This is just to my eye, I don't have measurement gear but it looks better OOTB than the two 40es's I returned. This is also the second 5030 I have had. The first one was returned because of the fan noise. I am giving it another chance because the 40es's both had a high pitched drone that I found worse than the Epson's fan. What a difference panel alignment can make! The first 5030 looked good but even after aligning the panels, didn't look as good as the Sony's(maybe I did the alignment wrong?). The colors also did not look as good either. Definitely differences between samples.

BUT. There is a problem! The lens cover when closing makes a buzzing noise. Like a little gear grinding on something. It doesn't do that when its opening and I don't remember the other 5030 sounding like that either. This sucks!!!

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I listened to the cover closing a few more times. I am wondering if it may just be one of the cover panels rubbing in the track as it closes making that noise? It seems to get a little better every time. I am going to give it a while and see what happens.

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I received my 5030ub Tuesday. This thing has perfect panel alignment. It is spot on. The colors, gamma, etc. also look fantastic. This is just to my eye, I don't have measurement gear but it looks better OOTB than the two 40es's I returned. This is also the second 5030 I have had. The first one was returned because of the fan noise. I am giving it another chance because the 40es's both had a high pitched drone that I found worse than the Epson's fan. What a difference panel alignment can make! The first 5030 looked good but even after aligning the panels, didn't look as good as the Sony's(maybe I did the alignment wrong?). The colors also did not look as good either. Definitely differences between samples.

BUT. There is a problem! The lens cover when closing makes a buzzing noise. Like a little gear grinding on something. It doesn't do that when its opening and I don't remember the other 5030 sounding like that either. This sucks!!!
Congrats on the 5030! Are there instructions somewhere on how to do the panel alignment? I just received my 5025 and would love to make the image as good as possible.
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Congrats on the 5030! Are there instructions somewhere on how to do the panel alignment? I just received my 5025 and would love to make the image as good as possible.
They are in the manual page 50

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I've read the instructions a few times, and tried to go in and make adjustments, I think the problem is I don't know what I am trying to accomplish? Does this feature evenly distribute the colors throughout the screen?
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I've read the instructions a few times, and tried to go in and make adjustments, I think the problem is I don't know what I am trying to accomplish? Does this feature evenly distribute the colors throughout the screen?
I'm honestly not the best person to answer that. I'm not super experienced with it.
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I'm honestly not the best person to answer that. I'm not super experienced with it.
Thanks Brian, it seems really confusing, but I am a beginner so its probably my inexperience that is the issue.
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I've read the instructions a few times, and tried to go in and make adjustments, I think the problem is I don't know what I am trying to accomplish? Does this feature evenly distribute the colors throughout the screen?
There are three LCD panels in the projector. Red, blue, and green just like the pixels in a CRT television. For the colors to be reproduced properly and sharply, the panels need to converge at a single point. This allows the proper color mixing for realistic color presentation.

When aligning the panels, you will have to be right next to the screen. You will want to go through the panel alignment measurements at each point, adjusting the lines so that they converge into a single line. You will need to do this for all three color settings.

The goal is to get the colors to converge at all points on the screen (although this isn't always possible). Sometimes you have to get them as close as you can so that they are even on each side, top, bottom, and center.

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There are three LCD panels in the projector. Red, blue, and green just like the pixels in a CRT television. For the colors to be reproduced properly and sharply, the panels need to converge at a single point. This allows the proper color mixing for realistic color presentation.

When aligning the panels, you will have to be right next to the screen. You will want to go through the panel alignment measurements at each point, adjusting the lines so that they converge into a single line. You will need to do this for all three color settings.

The goal is to get the colors to converge at all points on the screen (although this isn't always possible). Sometimes you have to get them as close as you can so that they are even on each side, top, bottom, and center.

https://youtu.be/_VcuUJBvOqU
Thanks for posting this!

I wish there was audio in the YouTube clip, Im still not sure what I need to do, but thats ok. The picture looks pretty good to the naked eye so I'm happy!
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Upgrade to Epson 5030UB

I bought an Epson 5030UB as an upgrade to my 10 year old Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 1080 projector. The latter served me faithfully over the years but it was finally time to upgrade. I am very satisfied with the upgrade to the Epson 5030UB because it is so much brighter and overall better contrast and picture quality. Out of the box I found the picture to be totally acceptable to me in the THX mode. Checked the settings with my Spears & Munsil calibration Blu Ray disc and everything was set as it should be. Just needed to do some minor tweaks and small convergence adjustments. Once I did this everything was perfect. I am amazed how clear and bright the picture is compared to my old projector. It was well worth the price for the upgrade and couldn't be happier. Since I don't watch 3D, I cannot give you my opinion on it but considering how bright this projector is, I don't think there will be an issue. I placed different settings in memory for cable, blu ray, DVD and laser disk (yes, it still works today).
I would recommend to anyone who buys this to consider calibrating the picture like I did. I would be happy to share my settings to anyone who is having problems.
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I bought an Epson 5030UB as an upgrade to my 10 year old Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 1080 projector. The latter served me faithfully over the years but it was finally time to upgrade. I am very satisfied with the upgrade to the Epson 5030UB because it is so much brighter and overall better contrast and picture quality.
I would recommend to anyone who buys this to consider calibrating the picture like I did. I would be happy to share my settings to anyone who is having problems.
I'm glad to see you like the 5030 so much! I have a 5025 and would love to see your calibration settings! I have adjusted my settings and the picture looks great, but would appreciate any info you can share.
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