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Good morning,

I know this comparison has been asked many times, but I could not find a real measurement for this particular metric, ie perceived brightness in 3D mode (when using native glasses).

Cost is not a concern here, as actually there are some deals going on which make the two more or less equals, when factoring in 3D Glasses cost for a family of 4.

I watch primarily 2D content, but my 3D collection has increased significantly, and I would appreciate if someone who has seen those could comment ?

Especially interesting would be feedbacks on 'dark' movies, such as Promotheus from Ridley Scott

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Good morning,

I know this comparison has been asked many times, but I could not find a real measurement for this particular metric, ie perceived brightness in 3D mode (when using native glasses).

Cost is not a concern here, as actually there are some deals going on which make the two more or less equals, when factoring in 3D Glasses cost for a family of 4.

I watch primarily 2D content, but my 3D collection has increased significantly, and I would appreciate if someone who has seen those could comment ?

Especially interesting would be feedbacks on 'dark' movies, such as Promotheus from Ridley Scott

Many thanks

Vincent Nguyen

In 2D calibrated best image mode goes to the Sony, 992 vs 678. 3D handily goes to the Epson, but I do not have numbers. The Epson may be the brightest 3D projector out there, under 10K.

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Good morning,

I know this comparison has been asked many times, but I could not find a real measurement for this particular metric, ie perceived brightness in 3D mode (when using native glasses).

Cost is not a concern here, as actually there are some deals going on which make the two more or less equals, when factoring in 3D Glasses cost for a family of 4.

I watch primarily 2D content, but my 3D collection has increased significantly, and I would appreciate if someone who has seen those could comment ?

Especially interesting would be feedbacks on 'dark' movies, such as Promotheus from Ridley Scott

Many thanks

Vincent Nguyen

I have the 50ES and it's a decent projector for 3D. It does suffer some image instability during fast paced movies with lots of actions. There are trade-off with 3-D: The image is darker, lamp life is reduced, the color balance is less natural, and some fast-paced scenes display a bit of flicker.

As a result, I limit my 3-D viewing to animated movies. I watched the entire 3D Blu ray of Finding Nemo and the picture was OUTSTANDING from first to last. I noticed things I had never noticed before, like the shadow in the background which we would later find out was a barracuda and the scratch in Nemo's egg after the attack which doubtless led to his weak fin.

I watched some of the Hobbit in 3-D and it looked pretty good, but I don't know if I could take the whole movie in 3D in one sitting.

I've only noticed cross-talk on a single scene so far, and that was with the image depth bumped up from the default (you can adjust this via the menu). Returning the image depth back to the default greatly reduced the crosstalk on this scene. Because I now know where to look, I can still see it, even on the default setting, but it's only barely noticeable.
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This makes the choice rather complicated.

I'm currently considering migrating from an older Optoma HD80 to a new projector. I would settle for the Epson based on these comments, however in the past, ie 6 years ago when I bought this HD80, DLP technology had the upper hand over LCD for black details and contrast. Technology has since changed quite a lot, and I wonder whether this is still true, and whether I would see a positive or negative difference between the older HD80 and any of these new projectors.

I realize not many might have a definite answer on this though :-)

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I think if you take the time to browse through the thread below you'll probably get a number of your questions answered.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1434826/sony-hw50-benq-w7000-epson-5020-jvc-rs55-jvc-rs-46-jvc-rs4810-jvc-rs56-mini-shootout-2012-2013

From memory the Epson will be brighter in 3D but the Sony is brighter in best mode and has a slight advantage in contrast. My 3D collection grew as well but after a year or so 3D just isn't as interesting to me as it was. There a are a few movies where 3D is a must for me (like Polar Express / Journey to the Center of the Earth) but live action movies and such I can watch either and I'll usually watch 2D. When you are making your decision you might want to keep that in mind that you might not choose 3D over 2D when the newness wears off. Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks for the details, indeed if I take your comment 'if you take the time', this is an understatement :-) This is a monster thread which contains a lot of information

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