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post #1 of 51 Old 09-24-2013, 12:33 PM - Thread Starter
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Didn't see this, so thought I would give everyone a heads up:

Here are the quick stats for the CRYSTAL CUBE: $ 4,995 MSRP
Single-chip DLP Resolution: 1920 x 1080 pixels
Six Segment Color Wheel
Full Active 3D features
Light source: 200W UHP lamp
Brightness: 2,300 ANSI Lumens (in 2D mode)
Lens throw ratio: 1.38-2.05:1
Picture size recommended up to: 180" Diagonal
Tilting Back Cover to conceal wiring and connectors
Fast Power on in less than 30 seconds and VERY fast turbo power off in less than 10 Seconds!



For the CRYSTAL CUBE SE (Special Edition): $ 7,500 MSRP
All the features of the Standard version plus:
Brightness: 2,700 ANSI Lumens (in 2D mode)
SIM2 3D VISUS Active Glasses (4 pcs) and RF emitter included.
Special CUBE Ceiling Bracket and extension pole (available in black or white finish)




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PS Would love to hear what it looks like. Availability is October.
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....  PS Would love to hear what it looks like. Availability is October.

 

Not to sound like a smart a$$ but, it looks just like the picture you posted.  It's their lower end DLP in your choice of a black or white glass box.

 

I wish SIM2 would offer some of their models with a less glamorous box and reduce their prices.

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Ha ha. No, I meant the picture, not the chassis.

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Any idea if they are still using the .65" DMD in the Crystal line?

"A wide screen just makes a bad film twice as bad. "
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I wonder what he'd think about 3D IMAX?
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Any idea if they are still using the .65" DMD in the Crystal line?

No way, they are using anything bigger.

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No way, they are using anything bigger.

That's what I assumed given that it is A)Sim2 and B)priced at $5k. I'd really like to see a well-implemented DC3/4 .95 DMD 3D projector in the $5-$7K MSRP range. Oh well...

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Ha ha. No, I meant the picture, not the chassis.


More or less like the old Crystal I would guess. Looks like they bumped up the bulb out put for 3D and stuck it in a glass box.
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Anyone know the contrast ratio? DI? Judging from the lumen spec without a DI it will be fairly low.
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Any idea if they are still using the .65" DMD in the Crystal line?

I was told .65" and 144 Hz triple flash processing.

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I was told .65" and 144 Hz triple flash processing.

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Makes perfect sense. I mean look at the throw ratio on the lens. No way it's a .95"
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My guess this is a reboxed W1070; just like the crystal 45 was a reboxed W6000.

Edit: lens doesn't match up. Could be a custom lens.
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Makes perfect sense. I mean look at the throw ratio on the lens. No way it's a .95"

That and the fact that they already have a .95" single DC4 machine (nero 3d-2)... and it costs (ahem) slightly more wink.gif

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Dimensions are listed as 12.4 x 12.4 x 7.5. wasn't Crystal Cube the name of a movie?
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Anyone know the contrast ratio? DI? Judging from the lumen spec without a DI it will be fairly low.

Fixed iris. Waiting for info on the rated contrast ratio.

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Interesting projector - any reviews or user experiences ?
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Dimensions are listed as 12.4 x 12.4 x 7.5. wasn't Crystal Cube the name of a movie?

I really don't remember. Could be the name of a stripper in a club somewhere.

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I really don't remember. Could be the name of a stripper in a club somewhere.


lol, I swear you live on this forum Mark. Love reading your posts!
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Their LED unit at $28,000 have all the reviewers salivating and trying to find a way to afford it. There are several reviews comparing it to the Sony !000 with the the Sim2 coming out on top. I have no idea what their low end stuff is like, but their top end projectors seem to be just that -- as good as it gets.

Here's a taste.

"If it were me, and I had the means and opportunity to purchase a truly reference-grade, cost-no-object front projector for my home theater or screening room, my list would definitely include the M.150. Having had the opportunity to experience and enjoy the M.150's impeccable image quality, it may be the only high-end front projector on my list at present."

http://hometheaterreview.com/sim2-m150-led-dlp-hd-front-projector-reviewed/
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Their LED unit at $28,000 have all the reviewers salivating and trying to find a way to afford it. There are several reviews comparing it to the Sony !000 with the the Sim2 coming out on top. I have no idea what their low end stuff is like, but their top end projectors seem to be just that -- as good as it gets.

Here's a taste.

"If it were me, and I had the means and opportunity to purchase a truly reference-grade, cost-no-object front projector for my home theater or screening room, my list would definitely include the M.150. Having had the opportunity to experience and enjoy the M.150's impeccable image quality, it may be the only high-end front projector on my list at present."

http://hometheaterreview.com/sim2-m150-led-dlp-hd-front-projector-reviewed/

I have heard nothing but excellent reviews of this projector. Bright LED projector that does 3D and DLP, what else can you hope for? But it being 4K, of course.
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Sim2 are no longer relevant in the lower end sector in my opinion. Sure the M150 is wonderful but by most accounts the DPI Cine 1000 is brighter for half the price. Likewise the Cine 1000 or Runco LS5 would be better value propositions than any of the Nero models. Lack of 3D may be a deal breaker for some but not for most I'd guess.
If you are going to factor in non-DLP then the VW500/1000 make Sim2s offerings look even weaker.
I don't know why they bother with the Crystal line, it just dilutes the brand. I wonder how many they actually sell?
The 'Money is no object' sector seems to be where they do well but its a shame that the form factor innovation of their 3 chip models have never been put into a model under $15K. At least DPI and Runco made an effort with .65" chip models.

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We just got a regular Crystal in a few days ago (we were told they just started shipping), but it hasn't been set up yet. If anyone has any interest/questions I can try...

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In the Trusted Reviews review of the M.150 the reviewer does refer to the Crystal 35 and found it disappointing.

"The M.150 does, though, very quickly get down to the business of justifying its price even before you take its LED lighting into account. For while its bodywork might lack the stunning high-fashion curves of Sim2’s Lumis and Nero models, it’s still a very striking looker indeed thanks to its unusually high, ribbed sides and its glass finish. In some ways it looks like the unusually affordable Sim2 Crystal 35 DLP projector on steroids - though that’s where the comparisons with the actually slightly disappointing Crystal 35 end."

Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/sim2-m-150_Projector_review#6uGxm9lRzmxXet0g.99
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The Crystal 35 is a BenQ W6000 with a different chassis. That should give you some perspective on it and the W7000's 2D performance compared to the M.150.
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Do the Crystals get the benefit of Sim2's good DI algorithms?

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I have an old Sim2 HT300 sitting in a closet, looks great when it worked for two years I will never buy Sim2 ever again it very nice box but that's all. ITALIAN engineering any one frown.gif just like Ferrari as long as you have a mechanic on the payroll wink.gif
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I have an old Sim2 HT300 sitting in a closet, looks great when it worked for two years I will never buy Sim2 ever again it very nice box but that's all. ITALIAN engineering any one frown.gif just like Ferrari as long as you have a mechanic on the payroll

My Lumis is going on 5 years of use with no problems. Projectors from any manufacturer can have issues.

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I have an old Sim2 HT300 sitting in a closet, looks great when it worked for two years I will never buy Sim2 ever again it very nice box but that's all. ITALIAN engineering any one frown.gif just like Ferrari as long as you have a mechanic on the payroll wink.gif

I'm starting to wonder if any company makes equipment that works for you?? wink.gif

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I'm starting to wonder if any company makes equipment that works for you?? wink.gif

You seem to be like Tyler Swift and boyfriends. It never works out and you can't stop singing about it! smile.gif


"Tyler Swift" and boyfriends??? Sounds kinda gay, lol.........
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I'm starting to wonder if any company makes equipment that works for you?? wink.gif

You seem to be like Tyler Swift and boyfriends. It never works out and you can't stop singing about it! smile.gif

I have many equipment that have worked for over ten years without any problems
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That would be " Taylor Swift " wink.gif good one.

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