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post #5161 of 5178 Old 06-19-2015, 09:23 AM
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I have been tweaking my contrast and brightness on my 500es using DVE disk. Overall the picture is very good. I did the autocal on the projector to see if it made any difference and it actually did not adjust anything that i could tell. I have been looking at the calibration thread and actually borrowed a friends xrite display lt colorimeter and did a check on grayscale using the dve disk and the chromapure software (free version) and the grayscale was very close but i discovered the red component was faulty so i strongly suspect the readings may have been bad. I even used the color filters in the DVE to check the colors and they seem to be ok but again those are not really great tests for accuracy. So i am interested in thought or experiences of this group.
O-- Is a professional or DIY calibration needed or warranted considering the projector has an autocal function?
O-- Does the auto cal correct grayscale and colors?
O-- What is the experience of the group on professional vs DIY calibration.

I am looking to get a Calman or Chromapure bundle with xrite colorimeter but struggle forking out 250 for a monitor that would not last more than a couple of years. If the autocal is sufficient to keep an accurate presentation, i am not sure i would move forward. If a one time calibration with a professional or DIY then the auto cal function can bring it back to those specs, then i would probably move forward with one or the other. again, thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions
Just my $.02. Almost all of the reviews of the 500/600ES say it has superb out of box color in Reference (and most say Film 1) modes. I paid the $4 for the subscription to Projector Reviews to get the full settings that they show for the projector (including the color correction settings). I checked them against my filters that came with my WOW and DVE disks. And called it day - and got on with watching content. Could you get better color and grayscale accuracy by going through a pro calibration or buying equipment and doing a calibration yourself -- probably. But I don't think the marginal gains are in proportion to the time, effort and expense. I am very happy with my settings (and the CMS setting suggettions on PJ Reviews).

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Just my $.02. Almost all of the reviews of the 500/600ES say it has superb out of box color in Reference (and most say Film 1) modes. I paid the $4 for the subscription to Projector Reviews to get the full settings that they show for the projector (including the color correction settings). I checked them again my filters that came with my WOW and DVE disks. And called it day - and got on with watching content. Could you get better color and grayscale accuracy by going through a pro calibration or buying equipment and doing a calibration yourself -- probably. But I don't think the marginal gains are in proportion to the time, effort and expense. I am very happy with my settings (and the CMS setting suggettions on PJ Reviews).

http://www.projectorreviews.com/sony...ter-projector/

I checked mine with Chromapure and then put the calibration gear away, and watched a movie. As you said, mine was pretty darn close out of the box.

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The autocal of the 500/600er works great, but only for colors. For a perfect rgb-greyscale levels you still need some equipement...
But will you see the diffrence and is it worth the price and time? That's a question only you can answer.
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thanks for the replys, i will probably pick up a monitor or Spectrophotometer (as i like to tweak) to do it and my older Pioneer Kuro plasma. However, the picture quality now is pretty darn good. I have started rewatching some of my favorite movies and still am amazed out how well they look. I really missed my big screen. A 60" plasma just wasnt enough
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The 600ES responds very well to calibration and is an easy task if you know the basics. My personal PJ results here.

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thanks for the note i have the 500 es and am looling to tweak it some. Picture is pretty good, but want to make sure its at its best. Thanks
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thanks for the note i have the 500 es and am looling to tweak it some. Picture is pretty good, but want to make sure its at its best. Thanks
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Most people with calibration equipment report very good performance in the 500/600 as delivered. It's been a little over a year since I hung mine and I don't recall if the "Before" measurements were out of the box or after I did a basic pre calibration setup. These PJ's are very linear and it makes calibration easy and fast. If you can find a local enthusiast with a meter and software I'd bet he or she would be more than willing to help you out just to see your PJ. If not, a moderate investment in equipment and some time spent on the Display Calibration sub forum for learning purposes will get you on your way.

If you like the Caucasian flesh tones you're seeing now, perhaps you don't need to touch a thing.

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I have been binge watching TV shows on my Sony projector.

I have a question. How long can you leave the projector on without shutting it off for cool down? I am afraid i might break it for playing continuously too long.
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I use my 500ES every day for TV etc. It is on for hours and hours at a time. Sometimes well over 10hrs continuous etc.
When you turn it off obviously it cools down the lamp before shutting down completely so I'm not sure what you mean.

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I use my 500ES every day for TV etc. It is on for hours and hours at a time. Sometimes well over 10hrs continuous etc.
When you turn it off obviously it cools down the lamp before shutting down completely so I'm not sure what you mean.
Ah ok thanks.

I meant, did I need to shut it off for the projector to cool down so i don't overheat it playing continuously too long... but you answered that already. Yesterday, I played it for 12 hours continuously... and then suddenly panicked thinking i might be killing the projector.
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Problem with Bose Lifestyle 535 series III

Hi all,

Sorry if this topic has been covered but I just bought a VPL-VW500ES and a Bose Lifestyle 535 series III.
After having it install by "professionals" I had the unpleasant surprise to see the image blinking. It works perfectly fine on a older 32" samsung TV

Is there a solution to this problem?

Thanks
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I have been binge watching TV shows on my Sony projector.

I have a question. How long can you leave the projector on without shutting it off for cool down? I am afraid i might break it for playing continuously too long.

On other projectors in the past there has been an 8, 10 or 12 hour limit stated in the owners manual. However, unless I missed it, I don't see any such limitation in the VW600 manual I have. I'd think my butt would break from sitting for too long, and be the limiting factor - not my VW600 !

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Hi all,

Sorry if this topic has been covered but I just bought a VPL-VW500ES and a Bose Lifestyle 535 series III.
After having it install by "professionals" I had the unpleasant surprise to see the image blinking. It works perfectly fine on a older 32" samsung TV

Is there a solution to this problem?

Thanks

Somehow I doubt many VW500 / 600 owners use it with your Bose system. Most would use it with a surround receiver. I'd recommend getting your installation " experts " back to trouble shoot what's going on. I see no blinking on mine.

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Hi all,

Sorry if this topic has been covered but I just bought a VPL-VW500ES and a Bose Lifestyle 535 series III.
After having it install by "professionals" I had the unpleasant surprise to see the image blinking. It works perfectly fine on a older 32" samsung TV

Is there a solution to this problem?

Thanks
What HDMI cable was used to connect the projector to the Bose system?

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The issue probably is different input HDMI chips between your old display and the Sony. You are continuing to feed 1080p from the Bose via HDMI. Your cable length with the HDMI is too long to work with the Sony and the Bose. If your cable is long, get a new HS HDMI cable with a built in extender or add an extender to your set upat the output of the Bose. output of the Bose

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I meant, did I need to shut it off for the projector to cool down so i don't overheat it playing continuously too long... but you answered that already. Yesterday, I played it for 12 hours continuously... and then suddenly panicked thinking i might be killing the projector.
There are 5 fans in the projector, so I think it can take care of itself. See this post for the service manual page scan.
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Hi,

tried 3 different cables (Bose and 2 other the "experts" had with them.

Thanks

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Does not mean the cable is not the problem. Try hooking up a source directly to the cable going to the projector. Please report back.

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