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post #6091 of 6093 Old 07-24-2016, 05:26 AM
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Kinda glad to hear that, I haven't been able to find a lot of 500/600ES impressions with UHD, or atleast they are hard to find.

The Jriver MadVr + darbee combo is really good though. Atleast with the Sony 500ES, seems like a very good match.

I guess I'll enjoy what I have until I build my next theater and by then I can pick up a laser light cannon with HDR/WCG!
I made this thread a while back for my 300ES when I got my Sammy UHD player, I took some screenshots comparing how GOOD the Sony was at using RC and upscaling 1080p Bluray content from my HTPC running Kodi (No MadVR or any special upscaling, just 1080p native Bluray 1:1 rips) vs the UHD disc from the Samsung.

Just if you are interested...

Sony 300Es 1080P BR w/RC Vs UHD BR 4K Comparison

Scroll down to this post #14 where I took some shots again, trying to make sure the exposure was closer to real life and both images matched far better:

Sony 300Es 1080P BR w/RC Vs UHD BR 4K Comparison

If you right click and hit view image in a new tab you will see each image is actually very large, so that should be a fairly good indication.

Summary... Sony's reality creation processing is VERY hard to beat if you are just looking at resolution. I found the 1080p images to be better in a lot of cases... Certainly was surprising to me.

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I made this thread a while back for my 300ES when I got my Sammy UHD player, I took some screenshots comparing how GOOD the Sony was at using RC and upscaling 1080p Bluray content from my HTPC running Kodi (No MadVR or any special upscaling, just 1080p native Bluray 1:1 rips) vs the UHD disc from the Samsung.

Just if you are interested...

Sony 300Es 1080P BR w/RC Vs UHD BR 4K Comparison

Scroll down to this post #14 where I took some shots again, trying to make sure the exposure was closer to real life and both images matched far better:

Sony 300Es 1080P BR w/RC Vs UHD BR 4K Comparison

If you right click and hit view image in a new tab you will see each image is actually very large, so that should be a fairly good indication.

Summary... Sony's reality creation processing is VERY hard to beat if you are just looking at resolution. I found the 1080p images to be better in a lot of cases... Certainly was surprising to me.
I remember your thread now actually. Your findings resemble mine. I have a few more UHD discs incomming tuesday so I can give it a go with some more comparisons. I too am surprised how good the madvr + sony RC/upscale is.
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I hooked up my new Panny UHD player to my 500ES last night. I was unable to do an a/b comparison to the Oppo 103D that I had been using. First glance I didn't think that it made much difference. I watched Allegiant as a first flick. I spent much of the movie tweaking. As time went on the picture got better. First, the Panny has secondary audio ON as a default. had to work my way in and turn that off in order to get TruHD working.
Ssounds good as one would expect from a digital bitstream transfer allowing my Arcam AVR700 to do the decoding. I realized after about 20 minutes that I had to turn the reality creation off to allow the 500 to show the pic that it was being fed from the Panny. The Panny has a setting that allows you to change increase/decrease the contrast to more accurately reflect HDR. Of course the HDR will not pass as the 500ES is not capable of accepting that feed. increasing the contrast through this slider will allow the SDR feed to more accurately reflect the way it would look if the display was showing HDR. The cost is an overall darker picture. I ended up with a picture that was pleasant but I couldn't say that it was significantly better than allowing the 500ES to upscale 1080p from the Oppo. That may change over time as I watch more movies and tweak a bit more. I may have to run a calibration disc through the Panny to make sure settings are correct for that player. I did find that it help if I switched the 500ES off of low lamp mode and back onto high lamp mode. I have not had a chance to try the new Panny with 3D Blu-ray discs but that will be for another weekend.

I would appreciate any tips from anyone else who has the Panny with a 500/600ES.

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