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The lens is the same as the 5030, the electronics are the same as the 5030. The panels are the same as the 5030. The firmware is different. The firmware allows you to expand your image vertically so that all the pixels are used on 2.35 content without the black bars. But to truly take advantage of this you

1) need a 2.35 aspect ratio screen
2) need a 2.35 lens adpater. These are $1000+ (Often called anamorphic lenses) ISCO II is a popular choice in the USA from what I read.

If you are asking what's the point there are 2:

With the 5030, if you want to watch a 2.35 movie (Default aspect ratio of most production movies), you'll get black bars top and bottom on a 16:9 screen
If you have a 2.35 Screen, and rezoom the picture by hand (quite annoying to do on the 5030), you'll waste unused light and pixels. (Approximately 32% dimmer and 32% fewer pixels) With the 6030 and 2.35 adapter lens, you'll use all that light and all the pixels.

However the 6030 comes with the extra warranty, an extra bulb, and the mount. That alone can add up to $900. Plus you get a black projector to boot.

I just started reading this thread. I recently purchsed the 6020UB. So far I really like it but haven't had time to get familiar with it.
I see above you mentioned a $1000 anamorphic lens from ISCO. How does it attach to the Chief's Epson projector mount that came with the 6020UB or does it attach directly to the projector lens? Epson recommends the Panamorph Anamorphic Lens Kit (Fixed) ELPFALKED
which is over $6000. How does the ISCO II attach and is it a fixed or movable lens. I believe with the 6020UP a fixed lens is preferable as it maintains CIH w/o having to be moved.
Thanks for any information you can give!!
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I do not have a 6030ub but I have a UH480 a-lens hooked up to a 6020UB, and I would say by the way they are saying that the 6030UB is relatively good, you should be a happy viewer.
By the way, has anyone seen a comparison between the 6020ub and the 6030ub?

I'm looking for a lens for my 6020UB. Where did you get yours, how much did it cost, and how does it attach? Does it attached to the Epson's ceiling mount and is the one you got fixed for moveable? I think a moveable les is not necessary with this projector. Can you verify that?
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I'm looking for a lens for my 6020UB. Where did you get yours, how much did it cost, and how does it attach? Does it attached to the Epson's ceiling mount and is the one you got fixed for moveable? I think a moveable les is not necessary with this projector. Can you verify that?
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I bought my Anamorphic lens a about 4 years ago. Do not remember exactly what I paid for the lens and the mounting plate but am very happy with it. My suggestion is that you call Panamorph and discuss your requirement. They are very helpful and informative. By the way, it is true that you will need a mounting bracket/plate for the lens which mounts between the projector and the Chief's mounting plate. The fixed lens track is less expensive than the motorized lens track, and it works just fine. Although it is called fixed you can still move the lens manually from side to side. I just leave mine in one position and only have to move it once to clean the projector lens. If your projector is mounted very high in the ceiling you can just attach a light chain/string to the lens so you can move the lens from side to side. You will not be disappointed with the combination of the A lens and the 2.40:1 screen. I use a 12ft x 5ft Stewart StudioTek 130 screen and I get very good brightness and quality with my system. I hope this help to answer your question.
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The lens is the same as the 5030, the electronics are the same as the 5030. The panels are the same as the 5030. The firmware is different. The firmware allows you to expand your image vertically so that all the pixels are used on 2.35 content without the black bars. But to truly take advantage of this you

1) need a 2.35 aspect ratio screen
2) need a 2.35 lens adpater. These are $1000+ (Often called anamorphic lenses) ISCO II is a popular choice in the USA from what I read.

Does the "different firmware" which "allows you to expand your image vertically so that all the pixels are used on 2.35 content without the black bars." apply to the 6020UB which I have?


I was told the 6030UB is the current more recent model of 6020UB. I was told by a salesman at StarPower in Dallas that the 6030 is the latest version or update of the 6020 and that the only difference between the two is the newer 6030 has a small increase in white brightness. I do know that my 6020 has Anamorphic Wide and Horizontal Squeeze settings which I think allows you to go back and forth between 2.35 to 16.9 by simply clicking either setting on the remote and w/o moving the lens .

Can you confirm?

Also, does a "lens adapter" include the lens or is it an "adapter" which is attached to a separate lens?


I have a lens but am hung up on how to adapt it to my Chief Projector Mount.
Thanks for the info.-wink.gif
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The lens is the same as the 5030, the electronics are the same as the 5030. The panels are the same as the 5030. The firmware is different. The firmware allows you to expand your image vertically so that all the pixels are used on 2.35 content without the black bars. But to truly take advantage of this you

1) need a 2.35 aspect ratio screen
2) need a 2.35 lens adpater. These are $1000+ (Often called anamorphic lenses) ISCO II is a popular choice in the USA from what I read.

Does the "different firmware" which "allows you to expand your image vertically so that all the pixels are used on 2.35 content without the black bars." apply to the 6020UB which I have?


I was told the 6030UB is the current more recent model of 6020UB. I was told by a salesman at StarPower in Dallas that the 6030 is the latest version or update of the 6020 and that the only difference between the two is the newer 6030 has a small increase in white brightness. I do know that my 6020 has Anamorphic Wide and Horizontal Squeeze settings which I think allows you to go back and forth between 2.35 to 16.9 by simply clicking either setting on the remote and w/o moving the lens .

Can you confirm?

Also, does a "lens adapter" include the lens or is it an "adapter" which is attached to a separate lens?


I have a lens but am hung up on how to adapt it to my Chief Projector Mount.
Thanks for the info.-wink.gif

Since you already have a "A" lens, I would suggest that you call the manufacture/brand name to get the mounting information you seek. The entire process of utilizing your "A" lens is not a major problem. You will just have to get the necessary adaptor.
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Tasdom,
I really like your projector mount. Does it use the Chief mount that comes with the Epson you are using? I just purchased the 6020UB recently but haven't mounted it yet.
Do you know how an anamorphic lens would attach?
Who makes it and where do you get it?
How is the arm attached to the wall?
Thanks-
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Tasdom,
I really like your projector mount. Does it use the Chief mount that comes with the Epson you are using? I just purchased the 6020UB recently but haven't mounted it yet.
Do you know how an anamorphic lens would attach?
Who makes it and where do you get it?
How is the arm attached to the wall?
Thanks-
James - I bought a Panamorph UH480, mounting plate and a manual sled. You also need the Chief universal mount. The one that came with the projector won't work with the Panamorph. Not sure about other a-lenses.
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Tasdom,
I really like your projector mount. Does it use the Chief mount that comes with the Epson you are using? I just purchased the 6020UB recently but haven't mounted it yet.
Do you know how an anamorphic lens would attach?
Who makes it and where do you get it?
How is the arm attached to the wall?
Thanks-

I bought it from Monoprice. I did not use the Chief that came with the 6030 since my ceilings are too tall and I didn't want to use a long extension to ceiling mount. The spider arms that are included with the monoprice mount are too short for the mounting holes on the 6030. I had another mount here that I had gotten from Vapex that had longer legs and used those with the monoprice mount.

The monoprice mount is rock solid and attaches to a wall plate with lag bolts.

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hey everyone! Just got my Epson Pro Cinema 6030 today, all i got to do is unpack and install! I bought it from Cine Acoustic in Morris Plains, NJ, He is a great guy. I got it in two days, he even gave me free Apple TV with it.

 

 

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Wondering if anyone has more comments about the noise of the 6030? Mine will be about 4' overt head and a little nervous after reading some posts. I don't plan to watch much 3D. Thanks.
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Wondering if anyone has more comments about the noise of the 6030? Mine will be about 4' overt head and a little nervous after reading some posts. I don't plan to watch much 3D. Thanks.

I've got the 5030UB - same fan, same noise level. It's 3 feet overhead for me, and I was delighted to find out when the projector arrived that high lamp fan noise doesn't bother me in the slightest - YMMV. Everyone has a different threshold, and this was a major concern of mine before purchasing. I read reviews that said the fan was louder than the competition in high lamp mode, but the noise pitch made it not obtrusive. I gambled on that, and found it to be exactly the case for me - the sound is a low pitched one of air moving, that ramps up somewhat with the faster fan speed.

Whether it's an issue for you or not depends on how sensitive you are, and to what types of sound. Low lamp is virtually silent.
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Thanks WestCDA. That helps a lot. With a 17' throw I'm sure I'll be running in high lamp mode. Sounds like the Sony 55 is a quieter.
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Thanks WestCDA. That helps a lot. With a 17' throw I'm sure I'll be running in high lamp mode. Sounds like the Sony 55 is a quieter.

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My projector is pretty close to my head, and I have to admit I sometimes find the high lamp noise sometimes bothersome especially in silent scene. Watched gravity last night and zt the beginning when the earth is displayed showing its beauty the noise really took me out of it as it is supposed to be a moment of silence.
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Thanks WestCDA. That helps a lot. With a 17' throw I'm sure I'll be running in high lamp mode. Sounds like the Sony 55 is a quieter.

 

That is my throw distance onto a 118" screen and I run ECO mode and the fan noise is a non factor. 


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Wondering if anyone has more comments about the noise of the 6030? Mine will be about 4' overt head and a little nervous after reading some posts. I don't plan to watch much 3D. Thanks.

 

Mine is directly over my head and I do not hear the fan noise, on ECO mode which is all that I use. I have the Iris set to high and hear that during quiet scenes, but not the fan. 


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hey everyone! Just got my Epson Pro Cinema 6030 today, all i got to do is unpack and install! I bought it from Cine Acoustic in Morris Plains, NJ, He is a great guy. I got it in two days, he even gave me free Apple TV with it.

 

 

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Can't wait to show everyone once I install it, I'll be sure to keep you guys posted!

 

 

Congrats. Welcome to the family. After running it around 100 hours consider having it professionally calibrated by an ISF qualified tech. 


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Mine is directly over my head and I do not hear the fan noise, on ECO mode which is all that I use. I have the Iris set to high and hear that during quiet scenes, but not the fan. 

Same here, don't let anyone have you thinking it is loud as is isn't.
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it is very loud for me in normal mode but it might be a defect
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Found, i believe, is an excellent deal on this Pro projector ($2800 USD) from an online retailer in Canada. Anyone care to share their online experience?
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Mine is directly over my head and I do not hear the fan noise, on ECO mode which is all that I use. I have the Iris set to high and hear that during quiet scenes, but not the fan. 

Unless you have a high gain screen and/or small screen as the lamp ages you will likely need to switch to normal lamp mode then you will hear it unless all you watch is loud action movies...
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For aftermarket 3D to use with the 6030UB I agree that the Samsung SSG-5100GB's work. They are not as good as the 2 Epson's that come with the unit, but, they are definitely better than the Quantum G5's & N11's. The Quantum's had a little more "ghosting" & were blurry at times. The Samsung SSG-5100GB's have a little ghosting also, but, not much.

The Quantum's were rechargeable and had other nice features like auto-shut off after no signal for a few moments. The vendor for Quantum gave very good service and was helpful when I returned the glasses (3Dglassesunlimited). About $40 or so a pair.

The Samsungs are battery powered without auto-shutoff, but, only about $15 to $20 a pair.
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To control fan noise, has anyone built a 3 sided box/enclosure in a ceiling hung configuration? I am thinking of building a box to deflect the fan noise.

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To control fan noise, has anyone built a 3 sided box/enclosure in a ceiling hung configuration? I am thinking of building a box to deflect the fan noise.

 

This thread might help... http://www.avsforum.com/t/1495221/black-velvet-theater-project

 

He did something similar a while back.

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To control fan noise, has anyone built a 3 sided box/enclosure in a ceiling hung configuration? I am thinking of building a box to deflect the fan noise.

If you are thinking of a box that is open on the front, it wouldn't do much in reducing the sound of the cooling fan - the intake and exhaust are both located on the front of the projector. Remember if you enclose it you'll need to ensure the heat generated has somewhere to go, and there is a source of cool air to replace it with. Do a search on 'hush box' and you should find lots of reading material ...
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To control fan noise, has anyone built a 3 sided box/enclosure in a ceiling hung configuration? I am thinking of building a box to deflect the fan noise.

Folks are making out like this unit is loud and I don't have that opinion as all. Heck, I have mine about 7' over my head and the sound isn't enough to build an enclosure.
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