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I don't actually have it quite yet, but my dealer has it in hand. At my request, for an extra $30, he will perform a quality check for me before shipping it tomorrow. I can't wait.

For those of you who might be interested, my dealer is:

Gregg Loewen
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Lead THX Video Standards Instructor
240 Knowlton Corner Rd
Farmington, ME 04938

Home Office: 207 778 5417

Cell Office: 207 624 2685


He has several in stock, and is selling them for $3499 with a FREE Oppo 103 player!!

I'll be sure to post after I have it ceiling installed and running with my Oppo onto a 120" screen in my home theater.
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My dealer's comments after he did a quality check on my Epson 6030UB before shipping it to me:

"Better than any 20 series that I have come across. Great work Epson!!"

Now I've got a long wait until Tuesday when it's scheduled to arrive. My home theater is getting hungry! smile.gif
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I'm now an official Epson Pro Cinema 6030UB owner.

It arrived yesterday afternoon. I haven't had time to calibrate, but I watched Creature from the Black Lagoon in 3D, and it looked wonderful. Clear with no ghosting.
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Super! Now, when you put 100 hours on it, or whatever is required now, have him come out and have it professionally calibrated. Best money you'll ever spend!

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We’ll I ordered my 6030 as an upgrade/replacement to my 6020 and it looks like I’ll be getting it in just a couple of days. Props to Jason, “progremmergeek” on the excellent price and fast turnaround time, can't wait to get her up and running!
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I understand the 6030 comes with a Chief mount. can anyone tell me how long the extension column is that ships with it?
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Is it worth buying the new 6030 vs 6020?   Also, does the Epson do well in a lighted room w/ a Black Diamond screen?  I'm thinking about getting this or the Sony ES50 because I will be watching more sports/TV than Movies during the day in game room (not dedicated dark Media room)?    

 

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I understand the 6030 comes with a Chief mount. can anyone tell me how long the extension column is that ships with it?

The standoff pipe is 6" but the mount with the pipe is 9.5" and the projector is 6" thick making it overall 15.5" thereabout just measured with my tape measurement!
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The throw distance calculator on this projector shows you can mount it up to 23' back from a 110" screen.   I think I can mount it 22' in my new room but I've heard you lose brightness mounting it that far back.   Is this true and does it make that big a difference putting it that deep in a room?  If it's a minor change I'm OK w/ that because I will be using a black diamond screen but I don't want to design the room for the projector to be 22' back if it really impacts the brightness of the picture.

 

Also - is it OK to set the projector in a coffer that is 12" tall from the ceiling but will be open in front and have 1-2 feet in back as well or do I need to put some kind of fan in it?    If that doesn't work I thought about leaving the bottom open of the coffer and ceiling mount it and just let it hang down w/ an opening in the coffer. 

 

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The throw distance calculator on this projector shows you can mount it up to 23' back from a 110" screen.   I think I can mount it 22' in my new room but I've heard you lose brightness mounting it that far back.   Is this true and does it make that big a difference putting it that deep in a room?  If it's a minor change I'm OK w/ that because I will be using a black diamond screen but I don't want to design the room for the projector to be 22' back if it really impacts the brightness of the picture.

Also - is it OK to set the projector in a coffer that is 12" tall from the ceiling but will be open in front and have 1-2 feet in back as well or do I need to put some kind of fan in it?    If that doesn't work I thought about leaving the bottom open of the coffer and ceiling mount it and just let it hang down w/ an opening in the coffer. 

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I’m about 16’ back and throwing an excellent projection on a 142”, heck my sister-in-law stated that she thought it was a plasma TV. Can’t comment on the mount surround as mine is open all around.
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My 6030 is on order now. I hope to have it in a week or so.

My experience with Mackcam Warranties. Projector sent with HDMI issue, returned with Lens damage. Still no ETA. 6 Months waiting to date. Sporadic response from CS. Stated it was sent to Epson, but was sent to another repair shop.
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Is it worth buying the new 6030 vs 6020?   Also, does the Epson do well in a lighted room w/ a Black Diamond screen?  I'm thinking about getting this or the Sony ES50 because I will be watching more sports/TV than Movies during the day in game room (not dedicated dark Media room)?    

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That is my favorite set up we sell that set up all the time I have one going in later this week and that is what I have at home, what makes the 6030 stand out is the picture and it is 2400 lumens. If you have ambient light the name of the game is handling that light which is what the screen does well and putting out as much light as possible without killing your black levels that is what the 6030 does well at that price point. Bang for buck it is hard to beat that set up there are reasons to go to other projectors but the 6030 is my first choice unless I have a compelling situation to go elsewhere.

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Also check out the Darbee with that set up I like them so much I usually through them in for free with most 6030 purchases, I just feel better knowing they got the best image. I think it adds a lot to the picture detail. This is true with any projector though not just the 6030.

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Hi there, I've been reading and reading, and unable to find a definative answer.  I am currently shopping for a projector and am leaning towards the Epson 5030 or 6030.  My installer tells me the 6030 has a better processor and lense which will give me a better picture.  All I've read is that you get the mount, extra bulb, and extra warranty for about $900 extra.

 

Can anyone suggest the model to get?  Everything I read is contrary to my installers advice, and tells me the 5030 is the better bang for the buck.

 

Thanks for your help!

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Hi there, I've been reading and reading, and unable to find a definative answer.  I am currently shopping for a projector and am leaning towards the Epson 5030 or 6030.  My installer tells me the 6030 has a better processor and lense which will give me a better picture.  All I've read is that you get the mount, extra bulb, and extra warranty for about $900 extra.

Can anyone suggest the model to get?  Everything I read is contrary to my installers advice, and tells me the 5030 is the better bang for the buck.

Thanks for your help!
Ryan


I believe when you count up the actual savings for the cost associated with the mount, bulb and warrantee extension you’ll see that the 6030 is a no-brainer!
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Does the vertical stretch work in 3D mode
Also since the lens is recessed is there any problem using a Prismasonic 5000 anamorphic lens ( maybe a 6020 owner can help answer this).
Thanks in advance
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Just ordered one. They threw in the Cine4Home-LPE-Filter for free after asking if they had it at all. Can't wait now.
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Just ordered one. They threw in the Cine4Home-LPE-Filter for free after asking if they had it at all. Can't wait now.

Grats,

Mine should be shipping today or Monday and I will have it mid week. No rush to me especially with the great price I got on it they can take as long as they want. :-)

My next purchase will be a calibrator or something

My experience with Mackcam Warranties. Projector sent with HDMI issue, returned with Lens damage. Still no ETA. 6 Months waiting to date. Sporadic response from CS. Stated it was sent to Epson, but was sent to another repair shop.
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Hi there, I've been reading and reading, and unable to find a definative answer.  I am currently shopping for a projector and am leaning towards the Epson 5030 or 6030.  My installer tells me the 6030 has a better processor and lense which will give me a better picture.  All I've read is that you get the mount, extra bulb, and extra warranty for about $900 extra.

Can anyone suggest the model to get?  Everything I read is contrary to my installers advice, and tells me the 5030 is the better bang for the buck.

Thanks for your help!
Ryan

The lens is the same as the 5030, the electronics are the same as the 5030. The panels are the same as the 5030. The firmware is different. The firmware allows you to expand your image vertically so that all the pixels are used on 2.35 content without the black bars. But to truly take advantage of this you

1) need a 2.35 aspect ratio screen
2) need a 2.35 lens adpater. These are $1000+ (Often called anamorphic lenses) ISCO II is a popular choice in the USA from what I read.

If you are asking what's the point there are 2:

With the 5030, if you want to watch a 2.35 movie (Default aspect ratio of most production movies), you'll get black bars top and bottom on a 16:9 screen
If you have a 2.35 Screen, and rezoom the picture by hand (quite annoying to do on the 5030), you'll waste unused light and pixels. (Approximately 32% dimmer and 32% fewer pixels) With the 6030 and 2.35 adapter lens, you'll use all that light and all the pixels.

However the 6030 comes with the extra warranty, an extra bulb, and the mount. That alone can add up to $900. Plus you get a black projector to boot.

Speaker design is rather an art. There is no such thing as the perfect painting. Likewise there is no such thing as a perfect speaker. It's part science and part personal preference.
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For those interested here's PC's review of the 6030.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/epson_6030ub_projector_review.htm
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I meant to post this here but accidentally started new thread. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1500657/3d-glasses-for-epson-pro-cinema-6030ub

In either case, what are you using for 3D glasses besides that ones that come with the PJ?

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Got my projector tonight. Set it up. The mount that comes with it is nice. While my old mount would have worked fine I changed it out for this one since it felt like higher quality then the older Chief one that was on it. One thing I noticed and hopefully someone else can chime in. The new mount had a little wobble to it on the right side (if looking at the projector from the front) where you would tilt the projector up and down. I ended up using a black cable tie to hold it in place but I was wondering if anyone else noticed it or maybe I just have a bad mount piece.

Loving the projector. Watched Pacific Rim in 3d tonight in half OU and it looked great. I didn't have much time to watch a regular movie yet. The 3d Glasses are nice but at least for me didn't feel to glasses friendly. Maybe my glasses are big :-) I might look into alternative in the future or get smaller glasses.

Big difference between this and my older 8500ub that has been in the shop for nearly 5 months now. I am glad I updated and the pricing I got make it a no brainer to get the 6030.

Question on Calibration. Does anyone own there own calibration units? Such as the X-rite display pro? I been debating on just grabbing one and doing my own calibrations.

My experience with Mackcam Warranties. Projector sent with HDMI issue, returned with Lens damage. Still no ETA. 6 Months waiting to date. Sporadic response from CS. Stated it was sent to Epson, but was sent to another repair shop.
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My 6030 is on it's way. Looking forward to giving my reviews next week.


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Even though I have the spare bulb, I am debating on getting the Mac bulb warranty for this to have a spare in the future. Has anyone else done this?

My experience with Mackcam Warranties. Projector sent with HDMI issue, returned with Lens damage. Still no ETA. 6 Months waiting to date. Sporadic response from CS. Stated it was sent to Epson, but was sent to another repair shop.
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My installer tells me the 6030 has a better processor and lense which will give me a better picture.  All I've read is that you get the mount, extra bulb, and extra warranty for about $900 extra.

 

Can anyone suggest the model to get?  Everything I read is contrary to my installers advice, and tells me the 5030 is the better bang for the buck.

 

Thanks for your help!

Ryan

 

My local salesman told me the 6030 has "better build quality" than the 5030 in addition to the extras we all know about.  I've never read that anywhere either.  I ordered the 5030 after arguing my case that I didn't need the bundled extras.  I'd be paying for stuff that would end up in the closet for who knows how long...


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Took the plunge and purchased a 6030UB + Oppo 103 Darbee from Mr. Gregg Loewen. I've met Gregg before (he superbly calibrated a Sony HDTV for me more than 10 years ago...my how time flies!) and he is a pleasure to do business with. I'm coming from an Epson 5010 which I sold last year before moving to Seoul, Korea (US Military). I thought I could get by with a 55" Sony LED for the next 3 years...but I just can't. I NEED the projector...I need 120"+ smile.gif Looking forward to its arrival sometime next week. Cannot wait! Thanks Gregg!
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Is the 6030 projector one that has to be purchased from a dealer and installed by them? If so, I live in the country and don't have anyone close to me who sells this projector. Or can I buy it on the internet from whomever has the best price and have it shipped?

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Hi there, I've been reading and reading, and unable to find a definative answer.  I am currently shopping for a projector and am leaning towards the Epson 5030 or 6030.  My installer tells me the 6030 has a better processor and lense which will give me a better picture.  All I've read is that you get the mount, extra bulb, and extra warranty for about $900 extra.

Can anyone suggest the model to get?  Everything I read is contrary to my installers advice, and tells me the 5030 is the better bang for the buck.

Thanks for your help!
Ryan

The lens is the same as the 5030, the electronics are the same as the 5030. The panels are the same as the 5030. The firmware is different. The firmware allows you to expand your image vertically so that all the pixels are used on 2.35 content without the black bars. But to truly take advantage of this you

1) need a 2.35 aspect ratio screen
2) need a 2.35 lens adpater. These are $1000+ (Often called anamorphic lenses) ISCO II is a popular choice in the USA from what I read.

If you are asking what's the point there are 2:

With the 5030, if you want to watch a 2.35 movie (Default aspect ratio of most production movies), you'll get black bars top and bottom on a 16:9 screen
If you have a 2.35 Screen, and rezoom the picture by hand (quite annoying to do on the 5030), you'll waste unused light and pixels. (Approximately 32% dimmer and 32% fewer pixels) With the 6030 and 2.35 adapter lens, you'll use all that light and all the pixels.

However the 6030 comes with the extra warranty, an extra bulb, and the mount. That alone can add up to $900. Plus you get a black projector to boot.

When you say "Adapter lens " do you mean (Anamorphic lens) ??
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Question for you guys who already got your 6030UB, is the projector mount that comes with this one:
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku=CHF1000#key-features

Just checking, thanks!
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Question for you guys who already got your 6030UB, is the projector mount that comes with this one:
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku=CHF1000#key-features

Just checking, thanks!

Yes, that is what mine looks like
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