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So the question is, do any of you have any similar experience with power or do you just put a power conditioner on the projector and call it good?

Paranoid I'm going to trash my new toy - let me know what you all think

I just bought this $60 UPS for mine: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0019804U8/. It doesn't "condition" the power, but it does have some surge protection. More importantly, it gives me time to shut down the lamp slowly if there's a power failure. I've had brownouts or blackouts several times while watching movies with my old PJ, and every time I cringed knowing that my bulb was aging prematurely, or worse might blow up and kill my projector.
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This is how I remember my friends HW50. You had to walk up to it to hear the fans running....unlike mine frown.gif

 



I'd go so far as to say I wouldn't even know it was turning off if it wasn't for hearing the solenoid click after the bulb cools.
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Just picked up my replace projector today keep your fingers crossed for me.
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Just picked up my replace projector today keep your fingers crossed for me.

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Buddy of mine needs the mounting screw size for this pj, anyone know?

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What settings are people using for Reality Creation, Noise filtering, NR, MPEG NR, motion enhancer, film mode, HDMI dynamic range, Advancd Iris,

There seems to be a lot of "other" settings. Reality creation I find between 12-20 seem pretty good. just not sure what to do on other settings? I've turned off motion enhancer.

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What settings are people using for Reality Creation, Noise filtering, NR, MPEG NR, motion enhancer, film mode, HDMI dynamic range, Advancd Iris,

There seems to be a lot of "other" settings. Reality creation I find between 12-20 seem pretty good. just not sure what to do on other settings? I've turned off motion enhancer.

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My experience so far has been:
For RC, I initially set both settings at 20 as that seemed to be the common recommendation. Worked fine and looked great for Bluray but was too much for DVD in my opinion. Currently have it set at 10 for resolution and Min for the other setting (forgot what it is called).
Iris: I have a fully dark room so have set to Auto limited on top of the 'reference' default mode. I will switch to 'Game' for watching sports like the Superbowl with the lights on.
I have not played much with the noise reduction settings. Most of those, I've driven from the source.
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Just unboxed my new replacement projector and before I mounted it I powered it up and first I connected it to my PS3 pictured showed up instantly. I then connected it to my OPPO103 picture showed up instantly. I'm going to mount it tonight and finally enjoy my Sony. Damn I'm excited
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Finally Ediddy am glad you got a working pj. Got to watch Finding Nemo and Pacific Rim both in 3d to get a jaw dropping experience w the pj.

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Just unboxed my new replacement projector and before I mounted it I powered it up and first I connected it to my PS3 pictured showed up instantly. I then connected it to my OPPO103 picture showed up instantly. I'm going to mount it tonight and finally enjoy my Sony. Damn I'm excited

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Are these (Samsung SSG-5100GB 3D Active Glasses ) compatible with the 55es? And if so, do they work well and are they comfortable? The glasses that came with the 55es work well, but are quite heavy and hurt a bit towards the end of a movie.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SSG-5100GB-3D-Active-Glasses/dp/B00BIP816Q/ref=pd_ybh_6
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Samsung SSG-5100GB glasses are RF, you would need to pick up the RF emitter for the Sony 55 to make them work, but I hear that is a good thing to do anyway. The downside is most projectors don't support IR and RF at the same time (I don't know if the sony does), so your current glasses probably won't work at the same time.
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Advice (off-the-clif-pushing) requested...

So...

A new 55ES @ $3500 or a B-stock 50ES @ $2500?

I know I don't get a voucher for a bulb with the 50ES, so that makes the difference in price between $700 and $800.

My question for everyone here... does that saving's make it a no-brainer to go with the 50, or should I up-swing for the 55?

I really wanted RF eyewear mostly because I hear that some of the eyewear is better (more light). But since the Sony doesn't provide the cable or the RF emiter for the US market I'm wondering how easy that would be to realize anyway. And I've heard that Monster has and IR-to-RF adaptor with an eyewear bundle, and I'm wondering if that might bring the advantage of improved eyewear to the 50? Or should I just enjoy the PS3 glasses (affordable) for the 50ES and be done?

Is the improvement in RC and brightness on the 55 really worth the cost difference in this case?

I will be shelf-mouning behind the sofa onto a HP screen so I'm assuming the 50 will give me plenty of brightness in 3D.

Your advice is welcome!

dave

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Advice (off-the-clif-pushing) requested...

So...

A new 55ES @ $3500 or a B-stock 50ES @ $2500?

I know I don't get a voucher for a bulb with the 50ES, so that makes the difference in price between $700 and $800.

My question for everyone here... does that saving's make it a no-brainer to go with the 50, or should I up-swing for the 55?

I really wanted RF eyewear mostly because I hear that some of the eyewear is better (more light). But since the Sony doesn't provide the cable or the RF emiter for the US market I'm wondering how easy that would be to realize anyway. And I've heard that Monster has and IR-to-RF adaptor with an eyewear bundle, and I'm wondering if that might bring the advantage of improved eyewear to the 50? Or should I just enjoy the PS3 glasses (affordable) for the 50ES and be done?

Is the improvement in RC and brightness on the 55 really worth the cost difference in this case?

I will be shelf-mouning behind the sofa onto a HP screen so I'm assuming the 50 will give me plenty of brightness in 3D.

Your advice is welcome!

dave


How about a B stock 95es for $2899?

Mike from AVS has them.
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How about a B stock 95es for $2899?

Mike from AVS has them.

Thanks for the input. I'm not well versed in the virtues of the 95ES. Can you comment on PQ advantages over the 50ES? How does 3D quality compare?

Thanks!

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Don't be plugging / unplugging HDMI cables with the projector and source devices turned on - that is generally not a good thing to do. Not sure that is what you did ( it sounds like it ). You can fry electronics that way. Just saying.

No I didn't do that I turned them on and off before I unplugged each device. Once I set it up everything will flow through my integra. Thanks for the advice
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Finally Ediddy am glad you got a working pj. Got to watch Finding Nemo and Pacific Rim both in 3d to get a jaw dropping experience w the pj.

Ian B

Thanks Ian B... I'll order them today .... So excited
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Don't be plugging / unplugging HDMI cables with the projector and source devices turned on - that is generally not a good thing to do. Not sure that is what you did ( it sounds like it ). You can fry electronics that way. Just saying.

This is CRITICAL with HDMI (and DVI) since it is not isolated. Even though there is some transient suppression, it isn't all that beefy. Most of its caused by a ground current which creates a fly-back voltage when disconnected. Depending upon the length of cable and the ground difference, this flyback can overwhelm the suppression and cause it to fail. The HDMI spec is a bit "week" in that department. But that is a penalty you pay for having that kind of bandwidth for pennies on the dollar. Peter or Paul...one of them gets robbed.

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Thanks for the input. I'm not well versed in the virtues of the 95ES. Can you comment on PQ advantages over the 50ES? How does 3D quality compare?

Thanks!

I believe the 95 has a better lens, the lens is also motorized. I'm not sure about the 3d. maybe some others that are more qualified than I can chime in.
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The lens in the 95ES is in the same league as the JVCs so you can expect a more naturally sharp looking image. From a 3D perspective you can expect the 50/55ES to be better for 3D. Thanks to the lamp modulation it can produce a brighter image over the 95ES which should help the overall experience. Crosstalk and flicker should be on the same level though.

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Bulb life is much longer on the 55 than either of the other two, plus there were improvements in other areas. I wouldn't consider either of those choices myself.
2000-3000 hours on the HW50 and 95. 5000 hours on the HW55. When you consider the free bulb with a new one it really isn't too close. If you aren't interested in 3D and are very fussy about image quality the 95 would be tempting for the better lens. That is a really good price.
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Hey,

I got the HW55es the other day and I love the picture quality and depth /contrast.

I have one issue though,

The first thing i plugged into it was my blueray, it was Djagno Unchained @ 24 f/ps and the motion was slightly juddery - someone in the room pointed it out!.

I could then see it in quite a few places.

We then watched Eragon on Sky HD and it seemed that when the character moved vertically on the screen a digital judder would appear where the character and his hair would skip a few frames or some kind of digital catch up was taking place.

I was very worried for a while and then I found "Film mode" on the Expert settings on the projector picture menu and in some circumstances it sorted out the problem. I believe this setting adjusts how the projector deals with different video modes such as 24p, 2;3 pull down and progressive etc. (my knowledge mostly stops there)

Anyway, I put this setting onto "Auto2" which seems to be ok for the majority. I've moved from a DLP projector, is there a known issue with motion on DILA projectors and has me setting film mode to "Auto2" or ""off" meant that I'm sacrificing original image motion quality? Is there an inherent problem dealing with 24p. could i be doing something wrong ?

In fact I'm still seeing motion judder mainly on white objects mainly when a pan takes place frown.gif

I've tried the motionflow feature and I would not be interested in using that as it looks so artificial.

I really appreciate your support with this.

Kind Regards,
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Sounds like if 3d matters to me the 50/55 is better than the 95.

I've read that for good 3d you can't let the bulb age to full spec because ghosting gets worse so not sure if the extra hours of the 55 will benefit me. Thoughts?

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Sounds like if 3d matters to me the 50/55 is better than the 95.

I've read that for good 3d you can't let the bulb age to full spec because ghosting gets worse so not sure if the extra hours of the 55 will benefit me. Thoughts?

zombie thinks that the Epson 5030 is better at 3D. See his comments in the shootout thread.


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zombie thinks that the Epson 5030 is better at 3D. See his comments in the shootout thread.

That is what he indicated. However, if 3D is paramount, then none of them are good enough.

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That is what he indicated. However, if 3D is paramount, then none of them are good enough.

Agreed.

David needs to decide what his requirements are. Unfortunately at this stage there is no perfect solution. A comment that is frequently used is "pick your poison". Make a list of your requirements and constraints (budget, room, screen size...) and you'll have the answer wink.gif


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I bought the 55es because of reviews stating it was a great all around pj. 3d was the least important factor in my buying decision. I don't have a 3d tv and never cared to get one. With that said, since it came with the glasses, I decided to check it out. We watched Star Trek Into the Darkness. I thought it was fantastic. So much better than the 3d you would see at the theater. Didn't notice any ghosting but then again, I don't have a lot of experience in what to look for...which is probably a good thing.

Bottom line is with everything this pj has to offer, if it fits in your budget, you will find yourself smiling often, no matter what the content, as long as it is a good source.
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Hey,

I got the HW55es the other day and I love the picture quality and depth /contrast.

I have one issue though,

The first thing i plugged into it was my blueray, it was Djagno Unchained @ 24 f/ps and the motion was slightly juddery - someone in the room pointed it out!.

I could then see it in quite a few places.

We then watched Eragon on Sky HD and it seemed that when the character moved vertically on the screen a digital judder would appear where the character and his hair would skip a few frames or some kind of digital catch up was taking place.

I was very worried for a while and then I found "Film mode" on the Expert settings on the projector picture menu and in some circumstances it sorted out the problem. I believe this setting adjusts how the projector deals with different video modes such as 24p, 2;3 pull down and progressive etc. (my knowledge mostly stops there)

Anyway, I put this setting onto "Auto2" which seems to be ok for the majority. I've moved from a DLP projector, is there a known issue with motion on DILA projectors and has me setting film mode to "Auto2" or ""off" meant that I'm sacrificing original image motion quality? Is there an inherent problem dealing with 24p. could i be doing something wrong ?

In fact I'm still seeing motion judder mainly on white objects mainly when a pan takes place frown.gif

I've tried the motionflow feature and I would not be interested in using that as it looks so artificial.

I really appreciate your support with this.

Kind Regards,
Allan

Without going into the CMS, to get me going I set up with these 'Basic' settings Allan, and so far no judder for me.

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I bought the 55es because of reviews stating it was a great all around pj. 3d was the least important factor in my buying decision. I don't have a 3d tv and never cared to get one. With that said, since it came with the glasses, I decided to check it out. We watched Star Trek Into the Darkness. I thought it was fantastic. So much better than the 3d you would see at the theater. Didn't notice any ghosting but then again, I don't have a lot of experience in what to look for...which is probably a good thing.

Bottom line is with everything this pj has to offer, if it fits in your budget, you will find yourself smiling often, no matter what the content, as long as it is a good source.


I agree.

I had no interest in 3D until getting my 55. Last weekend I picked up 2 extra pairs of glasses off ebay smile.gif
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I agree.

I had no interest in 3D until getting my 55. Last weekend I picked up 2 extra pairs of glasses off ebay smile.gif

Cool. Which glasses did you get?

I want to get the RF transmitter and hopefully the $19 Samsung glasses on Amazon if they will work with it, but I can't find the RF transmitter (TMR-RF1)! It's not even listed on the Sony site:confused:
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