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Hello, i bought the Xpand emitter but not saw real difference with IR. So, i sell it on ebay, just here : http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181433747500&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

 

If anyone is interested... (free delivery europe)


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my auction ends in 3 hrs
Nobody seems interested but
I paid 200 euro's (275$) for the Xpand that leaves 10 euro for the 4 glasses and the cable.

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/XPAND-AD025-RF-X1-Sony-converter-cable-4-Samsung-3D-SSG-5150GB-glasses-/251549249498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_146&hash=item3a9180efda
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Darn dlbeck -- I would have bought it at your very fair price. Thanks though.

If anyone is selling the emitter only (I don't really need more glasses or the Sony cable) in the USA -- please PM me.

Thanks!
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Anyone who are using HW55 in a fully dark room. Can you describe the difference in the dark scenes black level between iris fully closed and open(auto)? Is it dramatic or subtle?
Thanks, Dennis.
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Anyone who are using HW55 in a fully dark room. Can you describe the difference in the dark scenes black level between iris fully closed and open(auto)? Is it dramatic or subtle?
Thanks, Dennis.

Hello there,

I have a pitch black room,its very subtle..
You cant see it opening or closing..

I have had an epson tw9000 and with that one you could see it very cleary..

Best regards
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Why when i tried with more depth in 3d picture from powerdvd 14 program, picture from movie is cut left and right with little black bars when start to watch with 3d glasses ?
Any chance to make that i want have little more depth but no lose image from movie ?
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which pj? de sony hw55ES?

maybe ( just guessing) it has to do with setup of the 3D have you experimented with "side-to-side" and "over-under"? accessible when a 3D input is detected
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which pj? de sony hw55ES?

maybe ( just guessing) it has to do with setup of the 3D have you experimented with "side-to-side" and "over-under"? accessible when a 3D input is detected
Yes i have Sony Hw55ES and play only full 3D blu-ray disc, not "side-to-side" and "over-under" !
same situation when from projector settings go to 3D dept and change from 0 to +2 or -2 on screens is showing little black bars left and right side!
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ok
From the menu i could not notice that it is only for simulated 3d?

there are 3 parties involved, the Sony, the manufacturer of the glasses and Power dvd. I suppose it will not happen even with cheapest stand alone blu-ray player so it points to power dvd
Have you emailed them and explained yr experiences?
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I watch from HTPC and no simulation 3d i set option to Auto after play 3D blu-ray click on powerdvd button for 3D and the movie is start in 3d with turn on 3d glasses, but problem is i want little more depth from 3d and dont know way after i volume dept no matter from where projector or powerdvd program i have cut from picture with black bars left and right side when view from glasses !
i prefer to watch only full 3D, no simulated 2D to 3D !
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Ah ok

I see, I have those 2 vertical black bars too ! Only small ( thin like) but I don't like them, so I do one notch less and the bars disappear
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Hello there,

I have a pitch black room,its very subtle..
You cant see it opening or closing..

I have had an epson tw9000 and with that one you could see it very cleary..

Best regards
Thanks. Can't decide between HW55 and HW40. Main differences are price and iris. Still not shure iris worth half the price of HW40.
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Thanks. Can't decide between HW55 and HW40. Main differences are price and iris. Still not shure iris worth half the price of HW40.

Hi
For such prices as a dealer to demo both sequentially ?

What you will know is when you choose for the 55 that once owned, you will never regret it wink.gif

Dark scenes are really blacker with the iris, comparable to my previous JVC DLA HD1
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Hi
For such prices as a dealer to demo both sequentially ?

What you will know is when you choose for the 55 that once owned, you will never regret it wink.gif

Dark scenes are really blacker with the iris, comparable to my previous JVC DLA HD1
No demo/used units in Russia and new HW55 costs 1.65 times HW40 frown.gif
I own Benq W5000 for 6 years. It has two irises: manual and dynamic with native contrast about 1300 (4000 with dynamic iris on). So with dynamic iris it has comparable contrast to HW40 or HW55/iris off.
But even on 130" 1.1 gain screen I can still see significant imrovements in dark scenes black level if I close manual Iris.
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DEHiCKA

The HW 40 is very much better than your Epson as the iris effect is gone and the ANSI contrast is 355:1 which is a very good real world value.

Still I would sacrifice my next holiday for the HW55 wink.gif

Good wisdom in making a decision wink.gif
K
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Any chance for better 3d ?
i use only 3d glasses in packages in hw55es, use 3d sync to standart in options menu, projector 3d sensor is no blocked !
Maybe with external sensor to make better 3d or this is the max quality in 3d from this model ?
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Any chance for better 3d ?
i use only 3d glasses in packages in hw55es, use 3d sync to standart in options menu, projector 3d sensor is no blocked !
Maybe with external sensor to make better 3d or this is the max quality in 3d from this model ?
If you like the glasses that come with the HW55, you won't find anything that's appreciably better from a 3D picture quality standpoint. The main reason several people in this thread have looked for alternatives, including spending a few hundred extra $ on an RF adapter, is that we find the included glasses too heavy and uncomfortable for a whole movie. You can also find other IR 3D glasses that work, like Sony's PS3 glasses or models from XPAND. I prefer the RF glasses from Samsung and 3Active, and found the investment in the XPAND RF adapter to be worthwhile. But again, that's mainly due to comfort, not 3D performance or any issues with IR signal being blocked.
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Guys, I may have my 55ES up for sale here shortly. I might be getting a SMOKING deal on a Digital Projection Titan Reference.... waiting on the guy to make up his mind. If I get it.... 55 up for sale. Its only 3 months old and bought new from AVS. It has a lot of time on it for being only 3 months old but I do have the spare lamp in hand already. Send me PM if you have interest however its not leaving my house until the DP gets here.
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Guys, I may have my 55ES up for sale here shortly. I might be getting a SMOKING deal on a Digital Projection Titan Reference.... waiting on the guy to make up his mind. If I get it.... 55 up for sale. Its only 3 months old and bought new from AVS. It has a lot of time on it for being only 3 months old but I do have the spare lamp in hand already. Send me PM if you have interest however its not leaving my house until the DP gets here.
You might want someone to do a through inspection of that Titan Quad Reference 3D and since you do not have your new place yet, I would be happy to provide service of inspection and storage. Just send it to me. At the price you are getting this projector, I think it is a very good deal. I can't imagine your buddy being happy with what he is going to. I expect him to be projector shopping within a year.
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Hello

Is there a post explaining how reality creation works? Can someone share his rc settings?
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You might want someone to do a through inspection of that Titan Quad Reference 3D and since you do not have your new place yet, I would be happy to provide service of inspection and storage. Just send it to me. At the price you are getting this projector, I think it is a very good deal. I can't imagine your buddy being happy with what he is going to. I expect him to be projector shopping within a year.
The Titan has been shipped. Thanks for the offer Mike, but I know that he hasn't messed with the projector- he's not a technical guy. He paid someone to come "uninstall" the projector and hook up his new fancy TV.
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The Titan has been shipped. Thanks for the offer Mike, but I know that he hasn't messed with the projector- he's not a technical guy. He paid someone to come "uninstall" the projector and hook up his new fancy TV.
One of only a hand full of people that have switched from a projector to a TV. I don't expect him to stay with a TV very long.
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Hi Folks,

I'm researching projectors for a new Cinemascope home theater which will be used for an almost equal mix of gaming and film use. Though I was leaning toward the new JVC X700 due to reviews, I've learned that the input lag will probably be an issue for gameplay. That lead me to the Sony HW55ES as a possible contender.

I'm working with a home theater architect, and the current plan is to use an anamorphic lens with whatever projector we land on. However, I believe I read that the HW55ES does not support lens memory. I am trying to make sure that this projector actually works well with an anamorphic lens, and that the lack of lens memory will not be a problem down the line.

So that leads to several questions to anyone who has the HW55ES and uses it with an anamorphic lens.

1. According to the Panamorph compatibility chart, this projector can work with several models of lens. Does anyone know what the real-world difference is such that I might want to buy a more expensive one or not?

2. I believe I understand that the lens memory is primarily useful as a "poor man's" anamorphic solution, where you zoom to fit the screen as needed. If I go the actual physical anamorphic lens route, is it true that I don't need to worry about the lack of lens memory? Note that I will be switching between 16:9 and 2.35 (Cinemascope) pretty regularly, so I'm a bit concerned about manually moving the lens if that's required.

3. Is there anything else I should know about trying to use 16:9 and 2.35 anamorphic display ratios with this projector?

Thank you very much!

AV
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Recently sold my house and my HW50 along with it. I've got a lead on both a 50 and 55 but I'm wondering if the 55 is worth the "upgrade"? Anyone here go from 50 to 55? What are the main differences?
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Recently sold my house and my HW50 along with it. I've got a lead on both a 50 and 55 but I'm wondering if the 55 is worth the "upgrade"? Anyone here go from 50 to 55? What are the main differences?
I was looking at the 50 but by the time I was able to pull the trigger the 55 had come out. I haven't seen the 50 in person, only read reviews, but the differences seem fairly minor. A little more contrast / better black level seems to be the main improvement. An optional RF 3D emitter was initially touted but turns out to be very hard to get and a little expensive, and should work with the 50 just as well.
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I was looking at the 50 but by the time I was able to pull the trigger the 55 had come out. I haven't seen the 50 in person, only read reviews, but the differences seem fairly minor. A little more contrast / better black level seems to be the main improvement. An optional RF 3D emitter was initially touted but turns out to be very hard to get and a little expensive, and should work with the 50 just as well.
I guess the point is moot as AVS doesn't have any B-stock 50s and apparently Sony isn't sending out any more. So If I want a Sony, the 55 would be it. I really loved the 50, so I know I'd be happy with the 55, but was actually also now considering the JVC 4910. I might be leaning that direction more now that I know it has lens memory and my PJ will now be 2-3 feet behind my main seating area. (it was directly above in the last theater so it was easy to manually zoom when needed)
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I guess the point is moot as AVS doesn't have any B-stock 50s and apparently Sony isn't sending out any more. So If I want a Sony, the 55 would be it. I really loved the 50, so I know I'd be happy with the 55, but was actually also now considering the JVC 4910. I might be leaning that direction more now that I know it has lens memory and my PJ will now be 2-3 feet behind my main seating area. (it was directly above in the last theater so it was easy to manually zoom when needed)

You'll be hard pressed to make a bad choice between a HW55 and a RS4910 ! They are both great projectors!
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Alright so after reading through a ton of pages of this thread, it seems like the best rf 3d glasses setup is the xpand transmitter with the samsung glasses..

But it looks like I have to custom rig the transmitter together?? Can I buy it already setup from xpand?

Can anyone point out where to get this stuff? (In the US)

Also what are the best settings for the best 3d picture? I tried the glasses that came with it and it killed my eyes almost instantly..

I'm curious if it was a combo of my cheap 3d blueray player and bad settings.

Just looking for the best possible 3d setup. Thanks.
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Avrignaud,


I have three friends that went 2.35 with a lens. One was using the zoom method and then added the lens. The lens made a very noticeable difference in brightness and the picture was sharper. If going 2.35 I would definitely use a lens if possible.


I am not sure about the difference in lenses but I called Panamorph and it appears you will have to use less adjustments to the alignment with the better quality lenses. I am deciding between lenses and projector as well. I ruled out the zoom method after seeing the difference.


For 16:9 material there is a mode which puts the black bars on the sides to make the aspect correct. You lose a little resolution but I didn't notice it. It looks good but all of my friends just watch it most of the time stretched. The only little irritation there is that sometimes you have to switch modes on Blu-rays between the 16:9 menus and the 2.35 material being played but that is minor.


I've got some time before my theater is built and I might see what gets announced at Cedia. But I have decided I am definitely going 2.35 with a lens possibly with a curved screen. I am researching that now. None of my friends have a curved screen and they are tough to find to view.
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Avrignaud,


I have three friends that went 2.35 with a lens. One was using the zoom method and then added the lens. The lens made a very noticeable difference in brightness and the picture was sharper. If going 2.35 I would definitely use a lens if possible.


I am not sure about the difference in lenses but I called Panamorph and it appears you will have to use less adjustments to the alignment with the better quality lenses. I am deciding between lenses and projector as well. I ruled out the zoom method after seeing the difference.


For 16:9 material there is a mode which puts the black bars on the sides to make the aspect correct. You lose a little resolution but I didn't notice it. It looks good but all of my friends just watch it most of the time stretched. The only little irritation there is that sometimes you have to switch modes on Blu-rays between the 16:9 menus and the 2.35 material being played but that is minor.


I've got some time before my theater is built and I might see what gets announced at Cedia. But I have decided I am definitely going 2.35 with a lens possibly with a curved screen. I am researching that now. None of my friends have a curved screen and they are tough to find to view.

I was impressed at the picture I saw at Cedia last year with projectors set up with Panamorph's Cinevista anamorphic lens. You can always go that route for a sweet setup with an HW55, for not too much money!
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