Budget +/- 10K- ?
Dedicated home theater with no windows - but would still like it bright -
Could purchase right away or wait until after CES/2014?
Any opinions appreciated - Thanks,
Do you have a neutral gain screen?
Thanks for the suggestion - I'll research it - Seems like a new release and 4K too!
I 'wrestle' with understanding brightness requirements - room is 17' wide x 33' long - PJ hidden in ceiling soffit - Screen is neutral -
This would be a substantial upgrade in every regard. Color, contrast, resolution, etc. Look through the various threads here for user input, there's a number of current owners reporting in with relatively large screen sizes. Based on the specs of the Panasonic, if your pleased with the current brightness then the VW600 will be a good fit here with many other advantages.
btw, you'll find info/comments on the Sony VW500 which is the same projector outside the US. The VW600 is due to land in the US any day now and we will have one in for review soon.
edit: start here for some recent comments from new owners:
As a current owner too....................I fully agree!
Only a few Sim2 products I've seen can compare.........................................
Maybe someone can answer this better than me - My screen doesn't have any gain - and if it's ultimately not bright enough, I will look at something else. I'm optimistic I'll like it - but we will see..
Hopefully it will be bright enough - seems possibly borderline. Only seeing it will be the proof either way for me..
Seems like a challenging time when you want latest technology + performance + large screen venue. With 4K and 3D as a qualifyer, many PJ's seem to be off the list so far.. Even the 1100 didn't seem that much brighter at all for the $$….
Thanks again for everyone's help,
and you can get a Little additional light with using the 2.35:1 zoom mode ( use the full 4096x2160 panel - about 10 - 15 % )
BTW. I think it was a good choice
The Panny is not brighter then the 500/600ES in calibreted to D65 ( wich I asume he is doing )
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Thanks for the clarification - you are right - I have the 720 AX100U - around 2000 advertised lumens that I always run in dynamic mode - So it sounds like I'll be making a similar judgement call related to quality vs brightness -
DJ, My room is already set up with a hidden alcove for the PJ - 21' back or so, so no chance of moving it forward - even though that sounds like a good way to make it brighter. Thanks for the suggestion.
Other brightness related factors to consider:
- Looks like you have an AT screen, which can net out @ lower gain than the material itself is rated at.
- Without an a-lens you won't have all the brightness the projector can output for use on a 2.35:1 screen. The Sony has an odd aspect ratio and needs a special a-lens if you want to use all the light.
- If you can't move the projector so you're at the shortest throw possible, you will loose light output.
I want to do a similar sized screen. Design says 13' wide scope, but I'm afraid that will be too small. Problem has been finding anything bright enough for 3D with decent low light performance at an affordable price. I had high hopes something brighter than the vw1000 was in the pipeline, but all Sony came out with in consumer space was the 500/600 which was lower brightness / lower cost. Would be great if the Sony could light a big screen, but I didn't think so.
If you get one, let us know what you think.
I'll measure the screen again so I'm stating real dimensions. As I remember it, it's 176" or 179" diagonal and 13' wide. I'm pretty sure I went with 16:9 aspect, so the dimensions should reflect that. I know it fits the panansonic projection window perfectly. I can't remember if I measured the frame in the dimensions either - so need to remeasure, restate these and clarify.
The 1000 says on the sony website for screen up to 200", so I'm not so confident either way.
I'm fully baked in on location and size, etc, so no changing that.. Here's a link to the original thread build I did 6 years ago.
I've got the opportunity to get something else if I don't like the result, so one is ordered and on the way in a week or so, hopefully.
Thanks to the initial recommendation by Zombie , I've received and now testing the new 600 - it's absolutely bright enough and it's absolutely amazing. the best projector I've ever seen- more later….
You really need to see the 1000ES...........
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