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I have decided to sell my 4910, I have only had it for a few weeks under 100 hours in perfect condition, full 3 year warranty. The only reason I'm selling is so I can step up to a 4k machine. The picture on this pj stunning!

If anyone is interested pm me


Just spoken to ultra150pilot on the phone....

Ordered the Sony55 on Friday..waiting for delivery next Tues/Wed...but will now pass it on to a relative so I can get ultra150pilot's RS4910.

I have not seen either projectors in person...but hopefully the RS4910 is a nice step up from the Sony55ES.

Anyone who seen both projectors...please tell me i'm on the right track smile.gif

Will use projector with 120" Dalite High power in light controlled room near batcave condition.
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Just spoken to ultra150pilot on the phone....

Ordered the Sony55 on Friday..waiting for delivery next Tues/Wed...but will now pass it on to a relative so I can get ultra150pilot's RS4910.

I have not seen either projectors in person...but hopefully the RS4910 is a nice step up from the Sony55ES.

Anyone who seen both projectors...please tell me i'm on the right track smile.gif

Will use projector with 120" Dalite High power in light controlled room near batcave condition.

I had the HW50 and now have the 4910 and I am pretty happy with the upgrade. smile.gif
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Just spoken to ultra150pilot on the phone....

Ordered the Sony55 on Friday..waiting for delivery next Tues/Wed...but will now pass it on to a relative so I can get ultra150pilot's RS4910.

I have not seen either projectors in person...but hopefully the RS4910 is a nice step up from the Sony55ES.

Anyone who seen both projectors...please tell me i'm on the right track smile.gif

Will use projector with 120" Dalite High power in light controlled room near batcave condition.

I have the RS4910 and my friend has the Sony 55ES. He has a SI Black Diamond screen and I have a SI Pure Gray, so it's not an apples to apples comparison... but I do like my JVC a lot more than his Sony. Full disclosure, I've never been a huge fan of Sony projectors so I my be a bit biased.
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Would like to replace my ps3 as my bluray player.Im looking for better pq, any recommendations.

Not really the thread to discuss this, but OPPO Digital is always a safe bet. Price/performance is very good. Just select either BDP-103D or BDP-105D based on your audio needs. (E.g. if you have good AV-receiver / AV-pre/pro, then you probably don't need the extra analog audio quality in the BDP-105D.)
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Not really the thread to discuss this, but OPPO Digital is always a safe bet. Price/performance is very good. Just select either BDP-103D or BDP-105D based on your audio needs. (E.g. if you have good AV-receiver / AV-pre/pro, then you probably don't need the extra analog audio quality in the BDP-105D.)

I don't want to get into an Oppo vs. ?? Debate, but take my word for it - if you are just looking for a blu-ray player (not multi-media player) just buy a recent panasonic and be done with it. They are 1/5 the price and the blu-ray aq/pq is identical.
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The picture quality when using them with a projector like the X500 is not identical. The Oppo 103D has Darbee processing, which many find adds quite a bit to the image. It also has exceptional 4K scaling that may prove useful with the X500.
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Kris,

I guess if he needs 4k upscaling you might be right, but i cant imagine the benefits would be that significant, if at all. The x500 is a 1080p projector that accepts a 4k input. He can buy an outboard darbee processor for under $250. Furthermore, not everyone likes what the darbee does. I personally love mine, but the op may not. If he is a purist, he will not want it. I know eveyone loves the oppo, but for the op it is a $600 blu ray player, if he does not plan to use its other functions. Regardless, even if he wants the darbee function, he can buy a base model panasonic or sony for less than $100, add a darbee and have 98% of the performance for half the price. Finally, If he then decides he does not like the darby or can live without it, he can just sell it. The resale market for the darbee is very strong.

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The Oppo 103D is a lot more than a blu ray player. The two hdmi inputs are my favorite features. Allows me to have direct source with two sources. Makes my Direct TV look so much better. Its a media player with networking, which is a major plus for me since I rip my movies. Along with it being a great 2D and 3D blu ray player. The 2D-3D conversion is not that bad either. Its the centerpiece in my HT. Switching back and forth, I can tell it greatly improves the picture than my avr
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Thanks a lot for replies.Im going to stay with my ps3 w/Darby combo until we get a true 4k bluray player.
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You could always build a HTPC.

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You could always build a HTPC.

For just a 4k playback, probably the best option.
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can anyone recommend a good calibrator for the 4910 in the tri state area? NY/CT/NJ

Thanks!
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Friday I will be receiving a JVC 4910u to replace my loved but 3Dless Epson.

What should I do as far as user calibration until I can locate a pro calibrator?

Maybe I need to invest in the Calman calibration system?

Is anyone using Calman that can tell me if it works as well as what the pros use?

Thanks
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Thanks a lot for replies.Im going to stay with my ps3 w/Darby combo until we get a true 4k bluray player.

If you're thinking of going to the PS4 you may find it useful for your use of 4K.
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Quick test on a living room environment using the React 2.1 screen with the RS-4910 that I received yesterday. Image looks good. Controls take some getting used to since some differ from the older versions, plus some new controls. Default seems to be high lamp mode but changed that. Only 1hr on the lamp so will spend some time with this. My comparison would be the Sony HW55ES that is still with me but off the shelf for now. Will post my impressions when the lamp settles down.

A big thanks and thumbs up to Mike G (AV Science Sales 5) that made my purchase as seamless as possible and with good advice and follow up.
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I have been using the Estar glasses and emitter for 3D and when I shut off the projector and it goes into standby the emitter still gets power and goes into a search mode that will not shut off.
Is there a way (in the menu) of the projector to disable the 3D sync output power in standby ( also the ethernet light for that matter)? Or does the emitter stop searching after a length of time- I unplugged it after 15 minutes- maybe it takes longer?

I'm going to answer my own question for the sake of others that may run into this problem. I tried putting the Eco mode on and after 15 minutes the power to the 3D output does indeed shut off (along with the yellow ethernet indicator light). Hope this helps someone else.
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Friday I will be receiving a JVC 4910u to replace my loved but 3Dless Epson.

What should I do as far as user calibration until I can locate a pro calibrator?

Maybe I need to invest in the Calman calibration system?

Is anyone using Calman that can tell me if it works as well as what the pros use?

Thanks
In many cases CalMAN is what the pros use.
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Why not to use JVC's one Calibration for those projectors you should therefor buy external optical sensor Spyder4Elite/Pro, but I think its the best option to calibrate it.

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Why not to use JVC's one Calibration for those projectors you should therefor buy external optical sensor Spyder4Elite/Pro, but I think its the best option to calibrate it.
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but right off the top of my head I can think of two reasons not to use this method:
-Spyder meters aren't nearly as accurate/repeatable as other options (Xrite, etc)
-JVC's procedure requires that you point the meter at the projector, not the screen, so the effects of the screen and the room aren't accounted for in the calibration
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I have an Xrite ione display pro, I use it with HCFR free calibration software. Extremely happy with results and fun to tweak with. Was able to get my X500 to look even better.

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I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but right off the top of my head I can think of two reasons not to use this method:
-Spyder meters aren't nearly as accurate/repeatable as other options (Xrite, etc)
-JVC's procedure requires that you point the meter at the projector, not the screen, so the effects of the screen and the room aren't accounted for in the calibration

Read here mate http://www3.jvckenwood.com/english/download/dla-x900r_x700r_xc7880_xc5880_rs67_rs57_rs49_calibrationsoft.html
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Yeah, so? I've read that before and what I mentioned earlier still stands -- you have to use the Spyder to calibrate the projector and you have to point the Spyder at the projector, not the screen.
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Bought 1 pair of valueview 3d rf glasses but I don't think they are compatible with the estar emitter.Can someone recommend some cheap 3d glasses to pair up with estar emitter and my jvc 4910.
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I see mention of a firmware update to correct a problem with v-stretch. Does anyone know if any other issues are planned to be addressed with this update, such as the inability to turn off MPC when using the internal focus?
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What are the best emitter and glasses for the money for the 4910? A pm with a link for a good price to order them would be great too.
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Yeah, so? I've read that before and what I mentioned earlier still stands -- you have to use the Spyder to calibrate the projector and you have to point the Spyder at the projector, not the screen.

Of course you'll have to point Spyder at the project as said in instructions, why you thought that I was saying to point it to the screen? Oll optical sensors should be pointed at the source you are trying to calibrate. 

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What are the best emitter and glasses for the money for the 4910? A pm with a link for a good price to order them would be great too.

Why not buying JVC's original emitter and any 3D RF standard glasses, I've tried with epson 3D RF glasses and quality is very good.

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Of course you'll have to point Spyder at the project as said in instructions, why you thought that I was saying to point it to the screen? Oll optical sensors should be pointed at the source you are trying to calibrate. 
No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about. Given the choice, you should always calibrate by pointing the meter at the screen, not the projector. This way the meter "sees" what the viewer is actually seeing and the calibration is able to take into account effects that the particular screen and ambient lighting conditions have on the projected image.

There's so much information on this posted throughout this forum and elsewhere that I'm not going to try to post links. If you're interested (although evidently you're not), you can search for yourself.
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No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about. Given the choice, you should always calibrate by pointing the meter at the screen, not the projector. This way the meter "sees" what the viewer is actually seeing and the calibration is able to take into account effects that the particular screen and ambient lighting conditions have on the projected image.

There's so much information on this posted throughout this forum and elsewhere that I'm not going to try to post links. If you're interested (although evidently you're not), you can search for yourself.

Now I see what you mean mate, thanks. Spyder 4 Elite is an automatic process of calibration, therefore where X=Rite are manual calibration and requires a user to view the projection image and adjust based on patterns displayed, I'm just planning to do calibration but not sure which choice is the best, don't want to spend a lot money on it, as was thinking manual calibration would be the best, I've got X500R projector.

 

Cheers,

 

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Now I see what you mean mate, thanks. Spyder 4 Elite is an automatic process of calibration, therefore where X=Rite are manual calibration and requires a user to view the projection image and adjust based on patterns displayed, I'm just planning to do calibration but not sure which choice is the best, don't want to spend a lot money on it, as was thinking manual calibration would be the best, I've got X500R projector.

Cheers,

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If you wait a little while, SpectraCal should eventually upgrade CalMAN to support automatic calibration of this year's JVC projectors. That way you can use an Xrite meter pointed at the screen to automatically calibrate the projector and won't be tied to JVC's somewhat limited method. I used the CalMAN autocal process with an Xrite i1D3 when I still had my 4810 and it worked great.
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