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AV Science Sales 5's Avatar AV Science Sales 5 07:57 PM 06-05-2014
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Originally Posted by Bhartman67 View Post

What is the best mount for the DLA RS4910.

I am mounting a 56" Constant Height Screen, 30" off the ground, 22" from the ceiling on a 9' wall.


I guess it would be best if I dropped the projector down a foot or so?

I have seen recommendations for

Peerless
Chief

And others.

Thanks for your feedback.

I would go with the following:
Chief RPMA281
Chief CMA101
Chief CMS012

We keep these items in stock.

sm4llz's Avatar sm4llz 08:01 PM 06-05-2014
I got the peerless prg-unv and love it. I have it dropped about 6 inches and have 9 foot ceilings.
youtmallsale's Avatar youtmallsale 01:08 AM 06-06-2014
yes,Hopefully someone else can post their pics when they get theirs so i can live vicariously through them till next weeken,thanksca
SoulOfUniverse's Avatar SoulOfUniverse 07:26 AM 06-06-2014
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Originally Posted by CARTmen View Post
 

Hello guys

 

I have one question about this projector, does it projects 3d in 4k? If not, there are any projectors in the market that does it? With the technology we have at this point is it even possible?

You don't have any movies released in 3D 4k yet :)


Ron Jones's Avatar Ron Jones 07:48 AM 06-06-2014
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Originally Posted by CARTmen View Post

Hello guys

I have one question about this projector, does it projects 3d in 4k? If not, there are any projectors in the market that does it? With the technology we have at this point is it even possible?

First, these JVC projectors are not true 4K projectors as they sequentially project two offset 1080p images to provide a pseudo 4K image (4K pixel density but closer to 1080p resolution). For 3D these projectors project alternating right and left 1080p images instead of the offset images used with e-Shift to provide pseudo 4K 2D images. The only true 4K projectors (i.e., with native 4K/UHD resolution) currently available are those from Sony (i.e., VPL-VW600es and VPL-1100es) and these current models do not accept 3D inputs at full 4K resolution, but the next generation of the Sony 4K projectors will perhaps offer a more fully capable implementation of HDMI 2.0 that will allow for 4K 3D input signals. In any case, currently there is no source for movies in 4K 3D nor projectors that can display such a video format.
CARTmen's Avatar CARTmen 09:37 AM 06-06-2014

Thanks for the answers.


I was doing some research yesterday after I posted my questions and saw that Sony VW1100ES does the upgrade of 3D 1080p to 3D 4K.
The Sony projector seems very good, but is very expensive. Well as the first one with this technology, I think its normal to have that price. Maybe until the end of the year or in 2015 we have some more projectors with this capabilities.
My idea of buying a 4k projector is because I like to have a large field of view, and with most of the projectors I tested I couldn't seat as close to the screen as I wanted because I was able to see the pixel grid, and it takes the "realism" of the movies.
So with this JVC projector if I have a 140' screen, how close could I seat without seeing the pixel grid? And with a 200' screen?


SoulOfUniverse's Avatar SoulOfUniverse 10:22 AM 06-06-2014
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Thanks for the answers.


I was doing some research yesterday after I posted my questions and saw that Sony VW1100ES does the upgrade of 3D 1080p to 3D 4K.
The Sony projector seems very good, but is very expensive. Well as the first one with this technology, I think its normal to have that price. Maybe until the end of the year or in 2015 we have some more projectors with this capabilities.
My idea of buying a 4k projector is because I like to have a large field of view, and with most of the projectors I tested I couldn't seat as close to the screen as I wanted because I was able to see the pixel grid, and it takes the "realism" of the movies.
So with this JVC projector if I have a 140' screen, how close could I seat without seeing the pixel grid? And with a 200' screen?

JVC is going to release new line of projectors with full 4k support :) you'll see it will be better than any sony ;)


CARTmen's Avatar CARTmen 10:29 AM 06-06-2014
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JVC is going to release new line of projectors with full 4k support :) you'll see it will be better than any sony ;)

 

I didn't knew it. Seems very interesting. If they make them <10000$, they already have 1 sold. :D 


AV Science Sales 5's Avatar AV Science Sales 5 10:56 AM 06-06-2014
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JVC is going to release new line of projectors with full 4k support smile.gif you'll see it will be better than any sony wink.gif

Source please, or is this just your opinion?
SoulOfUniverse's Avatar SoulOfUniverse 11:00 AM 06-06-2014
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Source please, or is this just your opinion?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1490457/jvc-range-2014-2015-native-4k-with-e-shift-and-simulated-8k/180 no? 


billqs's Avatar billqs 12:05 PM 06-06-2014

No. That link is from September 2013 and is describing the current batch of JVC projectors that use eshift3.
Drexler's Avatar Drexler 12:58 PM 06-06-2014
Cartmen,

You could sit 1 foot away and not see the pixelgrid. The JVC e-shift removes the pixelgrid completely. However, that doensnt necessarily mean the image gets sharper than 1080p. But you get rid off the screen door effect.
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CARTmen's Avatar CARTmen 03:18 PM 06-06-2014
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Cartmen,

You could sit 1 foot away and not see the pixelgrid. The JVC e-shift removes the pixelgrid completely. However, that doensnt necessarily mean the image gets sharper than 1080p. But you get rid off the screen door effect.
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Thanks a lot. It really seems interesting. And this also work in 3D? It should be amazing e-shift with 4k resolution. Maybe in the future we'll have one 4k e-shift, but right now this solution seems promising to solve my problem.

I'm also curious about the differences between X500 and X900. Is the only difference the contrast?


blee0120's Avatar blee0120 08:19 PM 06-06-2014
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Originally Posted by CARTmen View Post

Thanks a lot. It really seems interesting. And this also work in 3D? It should be amazing e-shift with 4k resolution. Maybe in the future we'll have one 4k e-shift, but right now this solution seems promising to solve my problem.
I'm also curious about the differences between X500 and X900. Is the only difference the contrast?

No question, get the rs49/x500. Much cheaper will almost the same performance. You can sit close to the screen because of eshift. Much cheaper and better contrast than the 4k Sony projectors. Also, no 4k movies you can go purchase at the store. Sony has a server with 4k movies but I hear its very little difference from the blu ray version. I do any see any reasons why anyone would be disappointed with the rs49/x500 because it throws an excellent picture. JVC most likely will bring out a true 4k projector this year but its no guarantee.
Craig St Amour's Avatar Craig St Amour 12:23 AM 06-07-2014

Thanks for the help. you guys are all great. So let me get this straight since im going with a cih 144" inch scope when I play 16:9 ill only have pillar box bars right? no bars at top or bottom?


jjcook's Avatar jjcook 12:42 AM 06-07-2014
CIH by definition has no bars on top and bottom, particularly when you are using the zoom method as the JVC lens memories allows.

Some material is 1.85:1 not 1.78:1 (16:9) and so will have slight bars also on top and bottom if zoomed for a 1.78 picture. The solution, if it bothers you, is simply to have another zoom setting for 1.85 to get rid of the letterbox bars.
Ron Jones's Avatar Ron Jones 05:39 AM 06-07-2014
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Originally Posted by Craig St Amour View Post

Thanks for the help. you guys are all great. So let me get this straight since im going with a cih 144" inch scope when I play 16:9 ill only have pillar box bars right? no bars at top or bottom?

You may want to check out the blog (HERE) that I did late last year on dealing with different aspect ratio.
Craig St Amour's Avatar Craig St Amour 07:40 AM 06-07-2014

Thank you. that simplified it a little bit. So let me get this right a 144" scope screen would be cih? it would not work for a ciw? sorry Im pretty slow at this :)


danrudy's Avatar danrudy 08:08 AM 06-07-2014
Craig....
You got it.
CIH equals contestant height.....so the image gets wider or narrower based on the aspect ratio chosen. It is the width that changes....height stays the same and bars are on side vertically as pillars.
CIW is the width stays the same but the image height changes....thus the bars across the top changing the height of the image.

Thus, on a scope 2.35 ratio screen 2.35 movie content can be displayed to fill up the whole screen and present a wider image. The same screen displaying a 16:9 image will have bars on the side and be a smaller image.
danrudy's Avatar danrudy 08:11 AM 06-07-2014
I noticed that Art Feierman did not finish his review on the 4910/rs49//500 that he started on the 14th of April on projector reviews.
Now when I go to look at it it is no longer on the website. Is that just an error or did he change his mind ?
Craig St Amour's Avatar Craig St Amour 08:45 AM 06-07-2014

Thank you. I think Im going to go with a black diamond zero edge  144 scope and get a lumagen to scale some 16:9 stuff. I could not make up my mind between a 115 16:9! Its definately easier picking out a tv lol. Will the x500r fill a 144 screen good or should I go 133? Its going in a living room with light but no direct light.  


sm4llz's Avatar sm4llz 10:12 AM 06-07-2014
I've got my 500r about 15' back and the largest I can get is about 135' scope. Looks beautiful though.
AidenL's Avatar AidenL 11:13 AM 06-07-2014
I had my X500 installed today, but I can see that theres a bow effect in the middle of the screen when I turn on the focus patterns and its halfway up the sides too - no lens shift on, and the PJ seems to be aligned parallel to the screen - any idea what could be causing that?
AidenL's Avatar AidenL 11:14 AM 06-07-2014
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Originally Posted by danrudy View Post

I noticed that Art Feierman did not finish his review on the 4910/rs49//500 that he started on the 14th of April on projector reviews.
Now when I go to look at it it is no longer on the website. Is that just an error or did he change his mind ?


Is that down to the query on the brightness figures?
jjcook's Avatar jjcook 12:13 PM 06-07-2014
My first thought would be that you'd see bowing if you had a curved screen, else if you are using an anamorphic lens at the wrong distance/throw. Otherwise, I'm not any help. frown.gif
danrudy's Avatar danrudy 12:15 PM 06-07-2014
I was referring to whether he no longer liked the projector as a whole...lol
Not specifically the light output. However, I found it curious that it disappeared....can anyone still view it?
AidenL's Avatar AidenL 12:40 PM 06-07-2014
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My first thought would be that you'd see bowing if you had a curved screen, else if you are using an anamorphic lens at the wrong distance/throw. Otherwise, I'm not any help. frown.gif

Same thoughts I had, but I have neither, and I'm equally confused.......
Ron Jones's Avatar Ron Jones 12:49 PM 06-07-2014
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Originally Posted by danrudy View Post

I noticed that Art Feierman did not finish his review on the 4910/rs49//500 that he started on the 14th of April on projector reviews.
Now when I go to look at it it is no longer on the website. Is that just an error or did he change his mind ?

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Is that down to the query on the brightness figures?

Individual Web pages for the reviews of many projectors are currently off-line. It appears web site maintenance is to blame. I haven't heard as to when everything is expected to be back up.


UPDATE: The review pages are now back up. LINK

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AidenL's Avatar AidenL 09:44 AM 06-08-2014
All good then.

I had my X500 installed yesterday, after all of my agonising, I'm very happy with the brightness, to my eyes, it's as bright as my Epson 5030 was on the non-dynamic settings, admittedly with iris fully open on the X500 and lamp on high, it seems way brighter.

I'm impressed, no matter what the science says, and I think Sony and Epson may be losing some of their brightness advantage, and people are still quoting that JVCs aren't bright enough, incorrectly......
zombie10k's Avatar zombie10k 10:47 AM 06-08-2014
This is a good review of the X500/RS4910. It covers all the key areas + discusses color gamut saturation tracking which seems to get overlooked in a number of reviews out there. 6 point doesn't really tell the story what's going on with color performance. JVC *finally* got this right this year... it took too long for a good, out of the box setting.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/x500-201403303680.htm

@ Aiden - the X500 is definitely brighter than the Epson 5030 @ D65 / R709. The 5030 living room mode can crank out nearly 1000 lumens but it tweaks the gamma too much for movie use and the gamma adjustments on the Epson are a major pain to use.
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