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Adios guys...
My dear RS57 is for sale. I have always been perfectly happy with it, but the increase in lumens of the new JVC line is what I was waiting for.

I have always been using my RS57 in high lamp, manual iris fully opened, to (barely) achieve 13-14 Ftl on my scope screen.

Hopefully, someone with a smaller screen will make a better use of this incredible projector...I have always had the feeling that I was spoiling the projector's contrast performances by trying to squeeze all the brightness it was capable of.

On the brighter side, I am glad to report again that the lamp on the RS57 holds its brightness very well, my 880 hours lamp being only 15% less bright than a new lamp I bought and never used (after proper calibration).

Who else is upgrading their RS57 for a 2015 model?
OOC, what is the size and gain of your screen? How far is the projector from the screen?

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DLA-X700R vs RS57U

Hi guys,
I'm a bit confused about this projector/projectors. Is there any difference in either of these projectors? I don't see any on the spec sheets. The reason I'm asking is because I bought the DLA-X700R online but then the retailer sent me an email saying that the DLA-X700R was for commercial use, while the RS57U was the home theater product, and they said I should probably switch projectors, is this a scam. The website is AV Toy Store.
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Hi guys,
I'm a bit confused about this projector/projectors. Is there any difference in either of these projectors? I don't see any on the spec sheets. The reason I'm asking is because I bought the DLA-X700R online but then the retailer sent me an email saying that the DLA-X700R was for commercial use, while the RS57U was the home theater product, and they said I should probably switch projectors, is this a scam. The website is AV Toy Store.
They are mechanically the same projector. They have different colored lens rings on the case (gold vs black) and if memory serves offer different number of warranty years.

But, they are the same projector.

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Yes, it's a scam. They are both the same projector just sold by JVC under different divisions. The only thing different about the projector physically is ring color around the lens.
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OOC, what is the size and gain of your screen? How far is the projector from the screen?
The screen material is centerstage XD (real life gain of 0.98) the size of the screen is 125 by 53 inches (2.35:1) and the distance from the lens to the screen is 18 ft.
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The screen material is centerstage XD (real life gain of 0.98) the size of the screen is 125 by 53 inches (2.35:1) and the distance from the lens to the screen is 18 ft.
OK... I am getting a used X700 to replace my RS-1. I have a 96 inch wide screen so the X700 should be more than enough to light up the screen. My RS-1 was rated at 700 lumens and had more than enough brightness for me...
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Hi guys,
I'm a bit confused about this projector/projectors. Is there any difference in either of these projectors? I don't see any on the spec sheets. The reason I'm asking is because I bought the DLA-X700R online but then the retailer sent me an email saying that the DLA-X700R was for commercial use, while the RS57U was the home theater product, and they said I should probably switch projectors, is this a scam. The website is AV Toy Store.
Don't know what the deal is. Makes no sense what they told you. The are the same projector and both are made for HT use. They also have the same two year warranty.

X700R specs: http://procision.jvc.com/product.jsp...hId=71&page=10
RS57 specs:http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/f...l_id=MDL102253

Strange, there must be some reason that benefit them telling you that story.

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The screen material is centerstage XD (real life gain of 0.98) the size of the screen is 125 by 53 inches (2.35:1) and the distance from the lens to the screen is 18 ft.
You are going to appreciate the bump in brightness and the ability to close the iris down for increased contrast. The ability to do HDR and DCI color space with 4K BD is a bonus on top of the light output.

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OK... I am getting a used X700 to replace my RS-1. I have a 96 inch wide screen so the X700 should be more than enough to light up the screen. My RS-1 was rated at 700 lumens and had more than enough brightness for me...
It will be OK (depending on how old the lamp is and the gain of your screen).
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It will be OK (depending on how old the lamp is and the gain of your screen).
I have a Stewart Filmscreen StudioTek microperf screen, gain is about 1.0-1.1. The lamp on my RS1 has about 600 hours. For the first 500 hours, I put a ND2 neutral density filter on the lens because it was too bright for my eyes...

The room I have has a flat black front wall, very dark gray ceilings and side walls and a navy blue carpet... I could not find a black carpet back then...

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I have a Stewart Filmscreen StudioTek microperf screen, gain is about 1.0-1.1. The lamp on my RS1 has about 600 hours. For the first 500 hours, I put a ND2 neutral density filter on the lens because it was too bright for my eyes...

The room I have has a flat black front wall, very dark gray ceilings and side walls and a navy blue carpet... I could not find a black carpet back then...
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I use iRule on an iPad w/ my 57 over IP and have no issues at all (but that is with the understanding that JVC times out the IP port after 5 seconds or so!). You must make sure you code your page/buttons with this in mind or you will get unresponsive/unexpected/frustrating results.

That being said your post is fairly vague and it would be difficult for anyone to really help you without more specifics on your setup (hardware… software version… maybe screenshots of what you mean by "disappearance…" etc…).

I appreciate your response. I'll try to be more specific. The problem I'm having is inconsistent behavior with irule button presses. I'll try to bring up the JVC main menu and there are times when it appears as it should after a single press of the "menu" button. Then there are occasions when I can press the "menu" button multiple times before I see the JVC menu. The other inconsistency is when I try to navigate within the JVC main menu. Frequently the menu will simply exit after 2 presses of one of the navigation buttons. This can occur many times and so I simply resort to using the JVC remote. Occasionally it will work like its supposed to.

Prior to using rs232 I was using IP and had the PJREQ command in a drawer repeating every 3 seconds. The same behavior was occurring so I switched to rs232. I'm using a digi port server 4 to communicate with the jvc and 3 other devices that are successfully controlled.

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Just about 2 years into using my jvc rs57. Noticed this past week that occasionally I'll turn the pj on and it'll sound as though it's firing up, but never displays anything. Literally nothing is being projected out of the projector. I've shut it down and given it a few minutes and then turning it back on and it works just fine. I thought it was a signal issue but that wouldn't explain the fact that the 3 times this has now happened the pj didn't even display the d-ila banner or whatever it puts up on the screen right away before getting to the blue screen. I've got a little over 1k hours on the bulb (first bulb) and had no other issues. Anyone know anything that may be the culprit? I'd hate to have to call jvc and have them say "we don't know what's wrong better send it in". I dealt with their warranty process 3 years back on my previous rs46, which ultimately resulted in a replacement unit. But NOT until after they sent it back to me two times claiming it was fixed. Took nearly 2 months. Long time with no pj!
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Just about 2 years into using my jvc rs57. Noticed this past week that occasionally I'll turn the pj on and it'll sound as though it's firing up, but never displays anything. Literally nothing is being projected out of the projector. I've shut it down and given it a few minutes and then turning it back on and it works just fine. I thought it was a signal issue but that wouldn't explain the fact that the 3 times this has now happened the pj didn't even display the d-ila banner or whatever it puts up on the screen right away before getting to the blue screen. I've got a little over 1k hours on the bulb (first bulb) and had no other issues. Anyone know anything that may be the culprit? I'd hate to have to call jvc and have them say "we don't know what's wrong better send it in". I dealt with their warranty process 3 years back on my previous rs46, which ultimately resulted in a replacement unit. But NOT until after they sent it back to me two times claiming it was fixed. Took nearly 2 months. Long time with no pj!
Try removing the lamp and clean the contacts, I used DeOxit... They tend to oxidize as it ages. While you got the unit open, clean the optical block. It is usually coated with fine black dust. i had to use several alcohol wipes to clean it up. Keep cleaning it until the wipes do not show any soot...

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Wow...
that thread is almost dead...
I just wanted to report that I sold my RS57.

Express shipping between Montreal and Lubbock, TX.
It took less than 48 hours for the projector to get there.
Unfortunately, the $&!?): delivery guy must have thrown it off the truck because it arrived broken...

Some ugly vertical green lines have appeared and there is no way to make them go away. The new owner had tried factory reset, changing cables and sources...but the lines are there, even when the JVC logo appears during warm up...

I guess it is going to need repairs...

And, as usual, the warranty period finished TWO weeks ago...

Does anyone think this could be fixed without prying the damn thing open? any suggestions are welcome...
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Another image of the problem...the lines are there, always. Any suggestion or comment is warmly welcome...
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Another image of the problem...the lines are there, always. Any suggestion or comment is warmly welcome...
Was this insured?
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Was this insured?
Yes. Hopefully, they will cover the needed repairs.
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Wow...
that thread is almost dead...
I just wanted to report that I sold my RS57.

Express shipping between Montreal and Lubbock, TX.
It took less than 48 hours for the projector to get there.
Unfortunately, the $&!?): delivery guy must have thrown it off the truck because it arrived broken...

Some ugly vertical green lines have appeared and there is no way to make them go away. The new owner had tried factory reset, changing cables and sources...but the lines are there, even when the JVC logo appears during warm up...

I guess it is going to need repairs...

And, as usual, the warranty period finished TWO weeks ago...

Does anyone think this could be fixed without prying the damn thing open? any suggestions are welcome...
Hope it was insured. Make a shipping claim.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the jvc warranty doesn't transfer to subsequent owners after the original purchaser?
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I believe I experienced a lamp failure. The lamp had been flickering significantly for several days then last night the unit powered down by itself. I tried several times to power up the unit but the same auto shut down occurred. Now the unit has the warning light on continuously and the lamp indicator flashes twice and repeats. This pattern is not listed in the manual but I assume my lamp has gone bad. I pulled the lamp and inspected it but could not see any obvious issues.

Am I correct that this is simply due to a bad lamp? Last time I checked it had over 1400 hrs.

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I finally got my used JVC RS-57U (it even came with a spare lamp)... The previous owner bought it in the summer of 2015 and it had 250 hrs on it. Luckily, my old RS-1 was mounted with a Omnimount with the extension arms so I did not need the Peerless mount. It is set 15 ft away from my 96" wide/108" diagonal Stewart Filmscreen 1.3 gain micro-perforated screen (Net gain is about 1.1). Had the unit calibrated and it pumps out 16 fl at -5 iris setting on low lamp mode. At 0, the pj pushes 20 fl; in high lamp mode, it pushes 30 fl. My cave has flat black front walls, dark grey sidewalls and ceilings and a dark navy blue carpet. very happy with the upgrade.

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I finally got my used JVC RS-57U (it even came with a spare lamp)... The previous owner bought it in the summer of 2015 and it had 250 hrs on it. Luckily, my old RS-1 was mounted with a Omnimount with the extension arms so I did not need the Peerless mount. It is set 15 ft away from my 96" wide/108" diagonal Stewart Filmscreen 1.3 gain micro-perforated screen (Net gain is about 1.1). Had the unit calibrated and it pumps out 16 fl at -5 iris setting on low lamp mode. At 0, the pj pushes 20 fl; in high lamp mode, it pushes 30 fl. My cave has flat black front walls, dark grey sidewalls and ceilings and a dark navy blue carpet. very happy with the upgrade.
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Are "bright corners" a common issue on the X700 or X900 models in relation to previous generations or the new gens?
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Yes. Hopefully, they will cover the needed repairs.
Did you get this resolved? I have experienced these green bars or streaks and fixed them
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Did you get this resolved? I have experienced these green bars or streaks and fixed them
all I know so far is that the buyer got a repair estimate from an autorized JVC repair center (Mendtronic): they want to change the processor board and it would cost 1075USD plus shipping...

I know that usually, they tend to change a very large, multi-components part instead of simply changing the faulty, less expensive sub-part...

I am curious...how did you fix your green bars and streaks?

BTW, yes, the newer models seem to suffer more frequently from bright corners. But, most owners simply describe those as being "non-obstrusive" with real life material.
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Interesting note from Consumerist.com....

Warner Bros. Trying To Block Devices That Get Around 4K Video Copyright Protection
By Chris Morran January 4, 2016
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Warner Bros. and DCP contend that these devices are being used to circumvent established copyright protections on ultra-HD content.

A week ago, Warner Bros. home video folks announced they would be catering to the growing number of 4K TV owners by releasing 35 recent titles — including Mad Max: Fury Road and The LEGO Movie — on ultra-HD BluRay discs. Two days later, the entertainment giant was in court, suing to stop a company from selling devices that would let users get around the digital copyright protections on these, and other, 4K titles.

For more than a decade, many content companies have been using technology known as High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP), developed and managed by an Intel subsidiary called Digital Content Protection. It’s become the industry standard, with most major studios requiring that manufacturers are HDCP compliant.

HDCP is intended to prevent wannabe content pirates from making perfect digital copies of protected video and audio files. So if you run an HDMI cable from a 4K BluRay player to some device that isn’t HDCP compatible, it shouldn’t play. We saw this a few years back with some people whose older TVs were unable to watch HBO because they either weren’t HDCP compliant or their version of the tech was out of date.

The latest version of HDCP (v 2.2) includes encryption for 4K video, and it had been relatively successful in preventing pirated 4K movies and TV shows from hitting file-sharing sites, until recently, when a number of ultra-HD titles stolen from Netflix and Amazon streams began appearing online.

Last week, both Warner Bros. and Intel’s Digital Content Protection (DCP) filed a lawsuit [PDF] against China-based LegendSky, the makers of a line of products called HDFury, which claim to allow users to get around HDCP 2.2.

Warner Bros. says this circumventing of HDCP enables users to “access copyrighted works, make and/or distribute copies of copyrighted works, create derivative works of copyrighted works, or publicly perform copyrighted works, all without the permission of the copyright owner.”

Meanwhile, DCP, which licenses the HDCP technology to some 550 different manufacturers, stands to lose business with the availability of devices that render HDCP meaningless.

Moreover, the complaint contends that HDFury devices could have a chilling effect on the entire 4K/UHD market.

“Digital Content owners will be discouraged from creating and distributing UHD content, Digital Device makers will be discouraged from manufacturing and selling devices that display UHD content, and consumers will be deprived of the benefits of UHD,” argue the plaintiffs.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) includes provisions that effectively outlaws all but a small handful of reasons for circumventing copyright protections.

The lawsuit points to a note on the HDFury website where company seems to acknowledge that its products can be used to violate the law.

“To the letter of the law (the DMCA that is), a black box that removes the HDCP encryption to allow you to use a monitor that does not support HDCP is illegal,” read a statement on the company’s site, per the complaint.

“LegendSky knew or should have known the purpose and use of the HDFury Devices it offered to the public,” say the plaintiffs, who contend that LegendSky willfully sold illegal HDCP “strippers” for the company’s “own commercial advantage or financial gain.”

The plaintiff companies say they have sent cease-and-desist demands to LegendSky, but to no avail. They are now asking for the court to issue an injunction that would prevent the company from “importing, manufacturing, offering to the public, providing, using, or otherwise trafficking in” HDCP-circumventing devices.

So if you want to view 4K on your RS-57/700, you'd better get one fast...

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How do we fix green bars? Thanks
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How do we fix green bars? Thanks
You will have to send the unit in for repairs....

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