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post #2191 of 2209 Old 02-19-2016, 12:32 PM
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I've been playing with upconverting BRs and DirectTV from my radiance 2143. Im sending 4K 60p when using DirecTV and the rs57 switches to the "4K 50/60p" picture mode. This occurs automatically and cannot be changed via the menu. When playing a BR I'm sending 4K 24p and the picture mode does not change. Why is this and what exactly is the 4K picture mode doing on the rs57?

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Another image of the problem...the lines are there, always. Any suggestion or comment is warmly welcome...
Hi, I know it's a late answer, but might help others... so i had the same issue with my Epson 5020UB / EH-TW8100 projector. It was working fine and after few day started to produce these greenish vertical lines. I am not sure why and how, but this was the "light engine" fault, which is very costly to repair without warranty... I am sorry.

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Need help please...

Trying to see if there is a big difference between the RS57U and 700R. Saw a sale in one of the stores: DLA x-700R for $4299 vs RS57U for for $3498.

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I think the only difference is the warranty... One of them is three and the other is two years... Forget which one is which...

If it's not a BIG screen, it's not a theater...
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Getting frustrated...

Tried my RS57U today after automaton set-up by an IT guy. While switching from 16:9 - 2.35 thru lens memory, I noticed and lag of dark screen and the iris focus did move up. I also notice divergent issue.

Will try to reboot in AM.
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Got it working better last night. Just wondering if better to buy an HDMI 2.2 to 1.4 converter. I have a Denon AVR x7200wa which has 2.2 and the RS57U has I believe HDMI 1.4 input.
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4k content on x700r

Hey guys I'm new to this forum and recently became owner of x700r. Not sure if this was already discussed here but has anyone been able to feed this PJ with 4k material from PC? Manual says it only accepts 1080p resolution from PC sources. Also, in general, how do you display 4k on this PJ given that its not HDMI 2 and HDCP 2.2 compatible? Thank you.
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Hey guys I'm new to this forum and recently became owner of x700r. Not sure if this was already discussed here but has anyone been able to feed this PJ with 4k material from PC? Manual says it only accepts 1080p resolution from PC sources. Also, in general, how do you display 4k on this PJ given that its not HDMI 2 and HDCP 2.2 compatible? Thank you.
You will need a HDMI converter, such as the HD Fury Integral. It works pretty good, I have one. You have to realize that the JVC does not support HDR or anything above 8-bit color. The only upgrade will be 4K resolution which is just a faux 4K as the JVC uses eShift. Also, since the JVC is limited in 4K features, color space may be a bit off.

The increase in resolution is very subtle. On some movies you can see an increase in detail, others not much. It really depends on the source.

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You will need a HDMI converter, such as the HD Fury Integral. It works pretty good, I have one. You have to realize that the JVC does not support HDR or anything above 8-bit color. The only upgrade will be 4K resolution which is just a faux 4K as the JVC uses eShift. Also, since the JVC is limited in 4K features, color space may be a bit off.

The increase in resolution is very subtle. On some movies you can see an increase in detail, others not much. It really depends on the source.
FWIW I am able to send 12-bit color at 4:2:2 to my JVC RS4910 at 4K24 from my Philips UHD BD player...although I need to use a custom EDID from the HDfury Integral to get the player to send SDR/BT.2020. This resolution/color depth is part of the HDMI 1.4 spec (see attachment below). The colors appear to be correct if one of the 2015 JVC projectors' BT.2020 profiles is loaded (those color profiles can be successfully loaded into the 2014 projectors).

There's a lot of discussion about how to send BT.2020 to the 2014 JVC projectors in the X500/RS49/RS4910 thread.
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Thanks guys. Ill look into that. But has anyone tried sending 4k from a pc? I tried creating custom resolution thats supported by this pj but i didnt get any picture.
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I am also wondering about UHD and the JVC RS57 (X700R).

I'm looking at picking up a Samsung 4K UHD Blu-Ray Player (UBD-K8500) and was wondering if my projector can even display UHD?

Will it be much better than my Oppo BDP-103?

(I also posted here, UHD on previous generation JVC PJ so let me know if I should delete one thanks)

VIDEO: JVC DLA-RS57U Projector / 122″ EluneVision Reference Studio 4K Cinemascope Screen - Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray Player - PlayStation 3 AVR: Anthem MRX-1120 SPEAKERS: Paradigm Monitor 11 Mains - Paradigm Monitor CC-390 Center - Paradigm Monitor ADP-390 Surrounds x 4 - Polk MC60 Atmos Ceiling x 4 SUBWOOFERS: SVS PB2000 / Velodyne DPS-12
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I am also wondering about UHD and the JVC RS57 (X700R).

I'm looking at picking up a Samsung 4K UHD Blu-Ray Player (UBD-K8500) and was wondering if my projector can even display UHD?

Will it be much better than my Oppo BDP-103?

(I also posted here, UHD on previous generation JVC PJ so let me know if I should delete one thanks)
I have the JVC RS-57U and a Samsung UBD-k8500 as well... You will need a HDCP/HDMI converter such as the HD Fury Integral in order to use them together. You will get a 4K signal but will not get HDR or WCG as the JVC does not support it...

Compared to a normal HD player, there is a perceptible increase in detail, but I would not say it is dynamic...

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I have the JVC RS-57U and a Samsung UBD-k8500 as well... You will need a HDCP/HDMI converter such as the HD Fury Integral in order to use them together. You will get a 4K signal but will not get HDR or WCG as the JVC does not support it...

Compared to a normal HD player, there is a perceptible increase in detail, but I would not say it is dynamic...
The RS57 definitely supports WCG; you just need an HDfury Integral/Linker and a UHD BD player that can output SDR/BT.2020. The Philips, Panasonic, and Oppo players can do this, but the Samsung cannot.

There is much discussion about how to get this working in the Oppo 203 thread, the Integral thread, the Philips UHD BD player thread, the Panasonic UB900 thresd, and the JVC X500/RS4910 thread, among others.
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Well I watched Suicide Squad (which I had never seen before) on 4K and I was surprised how dark the picture was. Picture mode was set to normal and when I did some comparisons on Pacific Rim I realized that mode is super dark.

4K Normal


4K Dynamic


1080P Oppo BDP-103


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Hey guys, has anyone tried cleaning prism on this projector that sits behind the bulb? I read somewhere that JVC PJ get soot on the prims an that reduced light output and changes color tracking. Not sure if it applies to this PJ. Thanks,
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Hello,

I've been searching and can't seem to find any posted isf settings. I'm not looking for grey scale etc, as I have my own meters and software. I'm looking for the other setting like iris, super white, etc. I just need a idea what most loeple are using.

Also, I can't for the life of me find exactly what the gamma controls mean on this thing. Does anyone have a link or write up I can read on how to adjust gamma? Picture tone, dark level, and bright level? I have never seen this before as I only owned plasmas.

Does anyone know which software version I should have and if there is auto cal software? I only see one for the 2015 models.

I know this is a lot of questions but I would greatly appreciate any help as I really want to calibrate my PJ shortly.

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Hello,

I've been searching and can't seem to find any posted isf settings. I'm not looking for grey scale etc, as I have my own meters and software. I'm looking for the other setting like iris, super white, etc. I just need a idea what most loeple are using.

Also, I can't for the life of me find exactly what the gamma controls mean on this thing. Does anyone have a link or write up I can read on how to adjust gamma? Picture tone, dark level, and bright level? I have never seen this before as I only owned plasmas.

Does anyone know which software version I should have and if there is auto cal software? I only see one for the 2015 models.

I know this is a lot of questions but I would greatly appreciate any help as I really want to calibrate my PJ shortly.

Thank you,
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Hi ShockFrett, I've just finished calibrating my PJ with CHFR and iDisplay 3 meter. I didn't use ISF mode so cant really answer that part, but at least for gamma controls you can treat them as exposure on the camera. It changes bright and dark areas across all gamma curve and it doesn't have any impact on actual gamma response. Your overall dark/whites get over/under exposed at all gamma points. I also checked and it has no impact on actual change in gamma or color. However, one weird thing I found on my PJ is that my average gamma in CHFR shows as 1.8 while its not even close to 1.8 when looking at the picture, it seems rather around 2.4 subjectively. So I would be interested what results you get on your calibration. Please post them when you have it. Thanks.
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Anybody able to use an HDFury Integral to get 4K signal from their Shield TV to RS57/X700R? If so, what color space were you able to achieve? I have a 2017 Shield TV and I had major handshaking issues when i first powered it up (it wanted to connect at 4k2k 60 by default which the RS57 did not like. I was finally able to get it to 1080p so that I could even get a picture on the PJ. Even at 1080p the Shield keeps defaulting back to 8 bit RGB (even when I select other options). Not sure if this is a Shield issue, or HDCP 2.2 / 1.4 issue. I'm using a Denon x3300W if that helps.
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