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I am the proud owner of a new VPL-HW55ES. Absolutely loving the PQ. I understand that there is an optional upgrade to an RF transmitter and glasses for improved 3D. Has anyone tried that and if so, what was the experience? Looks like the transmitter model is a TMR-RF1 but I have had a really difficult time finding it available from any website including Sony. Is it available only in non-US markets?

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I am in Australia and have ordered the HW55ES but have delivery on hold while they investigate the RF option with distributor. Almost a week now and no response. Having searched thoroughly but the only hits I have found are from people posting about their inability to source this item and am starting to wonder if it exists.

To add to confusion have seen this item listed for sale on euro sites - AD025-RF-X1. It also purports to be an RF transmitter for the HW55ES but no details available.
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I'm picking up mine today and I will ask my dealer. It's good to see a fellow GoldenEar fan going the projector route. I'm really excited about my Trirtons.
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Hello,

The best solution is to get the Optoma ZF2100 System + 3D Bril ..
These wil work great out of the box.

Nothing more is needed..

I also have the sony rf emitter but this optoma solution is the easiest...

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As i understand it the Optima system is normally connected to the PJ by Vesa (which the Sony does not have) - so an additional IR received is required which is atttached to the Optima unit ?

Also - the Optima uses Zigbee RF so not compatible with other "Full HD 3D" glasses - correct?


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John

As i understand it the Optima system is normally connected to the PJ by Vesa (which the Sony does not have) - so an additional IR received is required which is atttached to the Optima unit ?

Also - the Optima uses Zigbee RF so not compatible with other "Full HD 3D" glasses - correct?


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Hello there the sony hw55es come with a cable what is meant for the optional sony rf kit..

This cable you can use to connect the optoma rf emitter it works perfect overhere;)

Its indeed only working with the optoma glasses...
But i think monster glasses and bit cauldron would work also because the uses the same emitter..

Also the optoma glasses are very light so they are very comfortable;)

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Estar of america emitter glasses are same as optoma at cheaper price
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Estar of america emitter glasses are same as optoma at cheaper price

Yes thats right;)
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Hello there the sony hw55es come with a cable what is meant for the optional sony rf kit..

This is the bit i had been missing - thanks.

I would have liked 'Full HD 3D' compatibility so that i could use the Pansonic glasses with the 3D to 2D option (one of the family is very prone to 3D headaches) - but you can't always have everything.

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My Sony VPL-HW55ES did not come with any cable that you described. It only came with the USB charging cable for the glasses. There is no cable that adapts to the VESA connection in the box.

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My Sony VPL-HW55ES did not come with any cable that you described. It only came with the USB charging cable for the glasses. There is no cable that adapts to the VESA connection in the box.

Thats strange..

Here in europe we got that cable in the box...

You can order a cable like that in Germany at the grobi store if you want one..

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My Sony VPL-HW55ES did not come with any cable that you described. It only came with the USB charging cable for the glasses. There is no cable that adapts to the VESA connection in the box.

The US version does not come with that cable. I don't know why.

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I'm rennovating my HT room and am eager to get this projector to replace my JVC RS2 and finally bring 3D to my HT experience (been enjoying 3D on the Samsung LCD in the living room and want to enjoy it in the HT room). I'm interested in getting the best possible 3D experience out of the Sony 55ES... and I'm assuming that RF is the way to go. I'd also love to hear how this story evolves... it would be nice if Sony actually was producing and selling the 3D RF option that they talk about in their projector manual... biggrin.gif

But as long as the end result is improved 3D (as much as can be improved given active shutter and RF transmission) on the Sony I'll be happy... even if it comes from another vendor.

I wonder if the RF samsung glasses I have would work? That would be great as they are good shutter and very comfortable and USB rechargable.

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By the way, is it just me, or is it a bit odd that one of the bullet points Sony promotes as differentiating the 55ES as better than the 50ES... the "RF emitter option"... seems to be completely unsupported?

Has anyone used the Sony RF device in a non-US region? Does it really exist? Does it work? Is the end result a superior 3D experience with better eyewear?

Before I spend $$$ on this projector I'd like to know that the 3D RF option (which was why I waited and didn't get the 50ES earlier) is for-real.

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For USA consumers who apparently don't get the cable in the box to connect to an external RF emitter... how would they connect to a 3rd party RF emitter? Via an IR "eye" that would convert to RF? Is there any compromise with going from IR to RF in real-time? That makes me worried that it may add a slight delay (visible as increased ghosting) versus a 'direct' RF solution that uses a wired signal right out of the projector.

Also, what 3rd party RF solutions are "FULL HD 3D" compatible? Is the monster/Optima? And who just makes the plain "best image quality" RF eyewear out there regardless? I want to get this right the first time if I get the 55ES.

Thanks!

p.s. I'm even more confused.. the owners' manual doesn't state ANYTHING about the "RF" feature, but it does show a sort of LAN-syle output port for syncing up with an external IR emitter.

thoughts???? I know I can't be the only one trying to figure out how to wire this bad-boy up for RF 3D...
https://docs.sony.com/release/VPLHW55ES.pdf

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For USA consumers who apparently don't get the cable in the box to connect to an external RF emitter... how would they connect to a 3rd party RF emitter? Via an IR "eye" that would convert to RF? Is there any compromise with going from IR to RF in real-time? That makes me worried that it may add a slight delay (visible as increased ghosting) versus a 'direct' RF solution that uses a wired signal right out of the projector.

Also, what 3rd party RF solutions are "FULL HD 3D" compatible? Is the monster/Optima? And who just makes the plain "best image quality" RF eyewear out there regardless? I want to get this right the first time if I get the 55ES.

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No , they are not "FULL HD 3D" compatible"


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No , they are not "FULL HD 3D" compatible"


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Thanks,

any thoughts on..

* best overall image quality RF eyewear?

* emitter/eyewear 3rd party products that are FULL HD 3D compatible? Is the Optima solution superior?

* how to "wire" the 55ES to an RF emitter... is there a LAN->converter cable etc.? The 55ES owners manual doesn't say *anything* about RF emitters... just IR. So what makes this unit *any* different from the 50ES (in regard to RF ability)?????

https://docs.sony.com/release/VPLHW55ES.pdf

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For the record my projector here in Australia came with what appears to be the connector for the external emitter.
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Where does it plug in to the pj? In the same lan port as thd IR external emitter?

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Where does it plug in to the pj? In the same lan port as thd IR external emitter?

Yes in the same port;)
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Has anyone purchased the PS3 glasses to go with the 55ES? I need 2 or 3 more pair.
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Has anyone purchased the PS3 glasses to go with the 55ES? I need 2 or 3 more pair.

Yes i have them also,they work good with the sony hw55es;)
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Thanks John I'll order them today.
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Thanks John I'll order them today.

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I have a 30ES. I would just connect an IR receiver to the RF emitter that comes with the RF glasses. The discontinued Monster glasses came with a IR receiver.

By bypassing the RJ45 to RF transmitter cable you can use both the IR glasses and the RF glasses. You can still use the PC app to tweak the RF glasses.

Don't expect miracles. Even with tweaking you'll never get rid of all the ghosting. Personally I don't see a huge advantage of the RF glasses over the included Sony IR glasses and PS glasses except in comfort.

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I'm bumping this thread because I plan to buy this projector, and I want to make sure I get the best possible 3D experience out of it.

I'm surprised that there is not more discussion around this lack of RF hardware to take advantage of one of the 55's key improvements over the 50: the RF 3D capability.

Can folks please comment on:

* will there really be any improvement with 3rd party (or Sony?) RF eyewear over IR eyewear?
* What is the best IR eyewear in regards to 3D image quality?
* What is the best RF eyewear in regards to 3D image quality?
* If RF really better, then how does one go about taking advantage of this feature for US buyers of this projector?

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Just tried to watch my first 3d movie and I need an extender . I'm in the us and I have the glasses that came with the pj and a couple of pair of the PS3 glasses. My primary seating position is behind the projector. What are my options and I need to get something quick! I've been waiting to watch Star Trek into darkness since before I ordered the 55es. I have a sectional and when I sat I front of the projector it was a great pic and fully emersive. Outstanding
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Get the TMR-PJ2 Sony IR extender. Mount it near the front of the room facing the audience. Call Mike at AVS - maybe he can get one for you quick.

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I'm bumping this thread because I plan to buy this projector, and I want to make sure I get the best possible 3D experience out of it.

I'm surprised that there is not more discussion around this lack of RF hardware to take advantage of one of the 55's key improvements over the 50: the RF 3D capability.

Can folks please comment on:

* will there really be any improvement with 3rd party (or Sony?) RF eyewear over IR eyewear?
* What is the best IR eyewear in regards to 3D image quality?
* What is the best RF eyewear in regards to 3D image quality?
* If RF really better, then how does one go about taking advantage of this feature for US buyers of this projector?

I am waiting for the same answer/advice. I am looking for a response from people who are using RF glasses with 55.
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