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JVC DLA-X900R / RS67U / RS6710U - Home Cinema 4K Projectors







Press Release:
CEDIA 2013

Catalog
2014 D-ILA Projector Catalog

JVC Product Pages:
JVC DLA-X900R
JVC DLA-RS67U
JVC DLA-RS6710U

JVC D-ILA
D-ILA Microsite

Specs:
150,000:1 Native Contrast Ratio —Industry's highest!
Intelligent Lens Aperture increases dynamic contrast ratio to 1,500,000:1
New 6th generation 0.7-inch D-ILA devices
New e-shift3 4K Precision 3840 X 2160 Projected Image —Upgraded feature
Native 4K inputs
3840 x 2160 (24-30p, 60p at 4:2:0*)
4096 x 2160 (24p)
Clear Black processing (Patent pending)
Clear Motion Drive —Now works with 3D & 4K signals
230 Watt NSH Illumination System
(lamp life up to 4,000 hours in normal mode)
ISF (Imaging Science Foundation) Certified
Built from hand selected Components

sRGB, Adobe RGB and x.v. Color space
Darkness and lightness correction
Lens memory function memorizes 10 positions for focus, zoom and shift.
Maintains constant height for 2.35, 1.85, 1.78 on same screen.
Screen Mode Presets for different screen material (255 memory positions)
Convergence Correction - 1/16th Pixel Increments.
Now 2 memory positions. —Upgraded

Advanced 3D Crosstalk Cancellation Control
3D Anamorphic Mode
Parallax adjustment for fine tuning 3D effect
Highly customizable built-in 2D-3D converter
Includes: (2) pair of RF 3D glasses; (1) RF 3D Signal Emitter
Accepts all modern 3D formats (Blu-ray, side-by-side, top-and-bottom)


Inputs: (2) HDMI
LAN connection for system control and firmware updates
Remote control via LAN, RS-232C, IR
12V Screen Trigger Output
V: 80%/H: 34% motorized lens shift
1.4:1 to 2.8:1 lens throw
Smartphone remote control app available
5 Year Warranty (Only on RS6710U)
Includes spare lamp

*60p 4K signals at 4:2:0 may be input and displayed via HDMI 1.4a connection.

Price:
MSRP $11999.95 (X900R / RS67U)
MSRP $12,499 (RS6710)

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Accessories:
PK-AG3 RF 3D Glasses (2 Pairs Bundled with RS6710U)
PK-EM2 RF Emitter (Bundled with RS6710u)
PK-L2310U Lamp (1 Spare Lamp Bundled with RS6710U)

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Got the DLA-RS67 coming Tuesday. Anyone else have one?
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I have the DLA-X900R.

Very pleased with it indeed.

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Did you have the DLA-RS66 before it?
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No, I had the DLA-HD100

My screen is a Stewart 200 inch

Immediate differences visible:

Contrast. the HD-100 had 30,000 to 1 the X900R has 150,000 to 1, without the Iris stepping down.

Difference is like an Led/LCD vs a Plasma TV. In a blacked out cinema, the on screen black with screen saver going is virtually the same as the black screen surround,. (easy test)

Detail:

HD-100 had no pixellation visible on a 200" screen from 6 feet away. X900R has no pixellation visible on the 200" screen from 6 *inches* away ! (even using reading glasses)

Focus is really easy and accurate

Multi-Zone fine colour alignment on X900R means no colour fringing from top to bottom, edge to edge.

Extra brightness and extra darkness means greater colour 'richness'

Supposedly this projector has been hand calibrated, but I cannot comment further as I am waiting for the lamp to 'burn in' before the professional calibrators come in.

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Just ordered mine from the AVS store. Can't wait! I currently have an RS-2 on it's third lamp so it's been a while since I upgraded, are these things great out of the box? Guess I'll find out next week.
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Mine should be here tomorrow. Cant wait to get her up on the mount to replace my x95.
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You will definitely love it. Please make sure you check the firmware version and update if you encounter any of the hdmi handshake issues other users have experienced.

Personally I have not had any issues but all my sources are connected through a Lumagen Mini 3D.
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Just ordered mine from the AVS store. Can't wait! I currently have an RS-2 on it's third lamp so it's been a while since I upgraded, are these things great out of the box? Guess I'll find out next week.

I do not have any kind of calibration equipment but I am being told its much more accurate than previous gen JVC projectors as far as color accuracy is concerned. You might want to play with either THX or Nature (if you like it brighter).
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I was thinking they should have sorted it out by now. I've always done my own calibrations but my meter head broke. I may pick up a Calman with a low end sensor if I get curious enough. I've been able to get considerable improvement over factory settings in the past, but I would think that with ISF and THX cert's it should be pretty dialed in out of the box.
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Fine Projectors are calibrated. Good projectors will not be bad out of the box.

However several local issues will interfere.

Not all screens are equally white.

Not all cinemas are 'black'

Will your lighting or décor produce a colour cast?

Is your screen hanging flat and orthogonal?

 

I would recommend for you the DVDO Duo Auto-Calibrate Bundle from www.chromapure.com ; you get a good video processor + a colorimeter + calibration software that will run the most difficult part of the process (colour calibration) automatically down the serial link with the DVDO. This saves you a ton of work and pain. At $1,449 all inclusive, this is the best and most cost effective introduction to the world of professional calibration.

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Will these most recent JVC projectors take a 4K input and display 4k resolution?
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Will these most recent JVC projectors take a 4K input and display 4k resolution?

They will
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Will these most recent JVC projectors take a 4K input and display 4k resolution?
Sort of. The first part is true, but the second part is only half true. It displays the UHD/4K image by using e-shift which isn't a true 4K image. By sending the projector that 4K image, it bypasses the upconversion the projector normally would do to a 1080p image and displays the true 4K image much the same as it would a 1080p image. It overlaps two 1080p images created from the native or unconverted 4K image sequentially like so:



The sequential images are displayed fast enough to give the illusion it's one solid image. This process gives a 4K-like image, but it's not the same thing that Sony is doing. They have true 4K image devices so you're going to get a true 4K image on screen when sending one to the projector. The JVC is still technically 1080p but with a faux 4K image.

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Thanks - very helpful - that is what I thought.
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Hi

 

what projector is better?

 

JVC DLA-RS67U  or Sony VPL VW600ES?

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The majority will choose the Sony. I would choose the X500/49 over the X900/67
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Hi

what projector is better?

JVC DLA-RS67U  or Sony VPL VW600ES?



I prefer Avatar (over the Titanic) but both are good movies.
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But what is better? in 4k resolution

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But what is better? in 4k resolution

Brighter and native 4K. I'm not saying the Sony is better, but the majority would choose the Sony. I would choose the X500/RS49 over both because you will get similar performance with the 49 and 67 but a faction of the cost. Then, the 49 have strengths against the Sony, which cost a lot more. The better value is the 49. But if you need the brightness, then the Sony will be the best bet. With the JVCs you can calibrate it to 12-18ftL and get an amazing picture. With the Sony you can get 20-35ftL with a sharp, very detailed, good contrast image. It depends on your viewing environment and how you like your picture
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I've had no issues with my JVC 67 since the first (not latest) firmware update so I stopped there. I've been looking at the Lumagen Mini 3D on the AVS web site and am thinking about adding it but obviously, I don't want to increase the chances for lock-ups! Here are my three questions:

1. Is anyone running ONLY a Lumagen with a 57 or 67 without any lock-up issues? (I've already read that a Darbee adds more issues so not considering that right now).

2. If so, is the Lumigen's quality enhancement alone on the JVC pj noticeable and worth the $1.5k?

3. I use a 50 ft HDMI / Cat5 balun between my rack and the Marantz AV in a separate room and the JVC in the theater room.. If I add it, would it be better to place the Lumigen in the rack at the output of my Marantz OR just before the JVC in the theater room (after the balun receiver)....or does it matter?

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I've had no issues with my JVC 67 since the first (not latest) firmware update so I stopped there. I've been looking at the Lumagen Mini 3D on the AVS web site and am thinking about adding it but obviously, I don't want to increase the chances for lock-ups! Here are my three questions:

1. Is anyone running ONLY a Lumagen with a 57 or 67 without any lock-up issues? (I've already read that a Darbee adds more issues so not considering that right now).

2. If so, is the Lumigen's quality enhancement alone on the JVC pj noticeable and worth the $1.5k?

3. I use a 50 ft HDMI / Cat5 balun between my rack and the Marantz AV in a separate room and the JVC in the theater room.. If I add it, would it be better to place the Lumigen in the rack at the output of my Marantz OR just before the JVC in the theater room (after the balun receiver)....or does it matter?

Thanks!

1. I have a Lumagen Mini 3D running with my RS6710U. The chain is as follows - Oppo BDP 103D ---> Denon AVR X4000 ---> Lumagen Radiance Mini 3D ----> 30ft Redmere Cable from MP ----> Projector. I am running the latest firmware on all components with no lock up issues. I did have some weird issues with handshakes before I upgraded the Projector firmware 2 weeks ago ( I have the Projector since Christmas last year; issues started 2 weeks ago after upgrading the Lumagen firmware to a newer version with the original Projector FW).
2. The scaling features without having to continiously mess with Lens Memory and CMS are worth it for me smile.gif
3. No idea, maybe someone who runs a similar setup can chime in or you can call Mike @ AVS and ask.
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Does anyone know if the chips in these projectors support 16-Bit color depth or are HDMI 2.0 compliant?
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Does anyone know if the chips in these projectors support 16-Bit color depth or are HDMI 2.0 compliant?
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I've had no issues with my JVC 67 since the first (not latest) firmware update so I stopped there. I've been looking at the Lumagen Mini 3D on the AVS web site and am thinking about adding it but obviously, I don't want to increase the chances for lock-ups! Here are my three questions:

1. Is anyone running ONLY a Lumagen with a 57 or 67 without any lock-up issues? (I've already read that a Darbee adds more issues so not considering that right now).

2. If so, is the Lumigen's quality enhancement alone on the JVC pj noticeable and worth the $1.5k?

3. I use a 50 ft HDMI / Cat5 balun between my rack and the Marantz AV in a separate room and the JVC in the theater room.. If I add it, would it be better to place the Lumigen in the rack at the output of my Marantz OR just before the JVC in the theater room (after the balun receiver)....or does it matter?

Thanks!
1. I've been running a Lumagen 2041 video processor in between my Oppo 103 and my JVC X700 since I got it and have yet to have a single lockup. The 2041 has built in Darbee processing (although my 103D player does as well).

2. I will ALWAYS recommend a Lumagen processor to get the absolute most out of a projector but ultimately it comes down to just how picky you are about your video. The new JVC's are pretty accurate out of the box right now but how they will respond to calibration later down the line remains unseen. The Lumagen line is outstanding for calibration alone, even without taking into account the scaling and processing available.

3. It shouldn't matter where you put the Lumagen for you situation. In my chain I don't have the Lumagen attached to my audio processor. Instead I go Oppo video out to Lumagen then to projector and Oppo audio out to Anthem processor. But I don't have other sources to switch at the moment. Lumagen would recommend you do all the switching with the Lumagen and feed one output to your display and the other to your processor, but as long as there are no handshake issues you should be fine.

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Thanks for the quick reply. Do you happen to know if there are projectors on the market that support 16 bit? Is 16 Bit a moot point? I've been told I should be purchasing a projector that is 16 bit.
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I don't think there is anything close to a 16 bit panel driver for projectors yet. Maybe a few 10 bit, I doubt we've even seen 12 bit yet.

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