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Epson eh-tw10000 3d ifa berlin 2014

Here are two new references EPSON new models, which should finally means a complete renewal of the range:

This is the EH-TW9600 will be offered for sale at a price of around € 5,999, and the admiral model, the EH-TW10000 which will be positioned around 6999 €

Both are 3D models and we might expect one of them to be 4K this should justify the high prices of these new models. It is not the entire range and we are still awaiting a complete version of the LCD-R (R for reflective) models.

These projectors will be presented at IFA BERLIN be held from 5 to 10 September 2014.

http://www.projection-homecinema.fr/...rlin-ifa-2014/
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Link doesn't get your intended result. Do we really need two threads on this. My guess is that the machines will essentially be the same. I will confine my future comments to the other thread.

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Last information :

- Laser light source with phosphor wheel
- Full HD with E-Shift (4K simulation)
- Reflective LCD

This model won't appear in 2014, only in 2015.

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- Laser light source with phosphor wheel
- Full HD with E-Shift (4K simulation)
- Reflective LCD

This model won't appear in 2014, only in 2015.
Interested to see what this light source adds to the performance over lamp?
Though it does seem odd to come out with a new, 2k, flaghip model if 4k was really right around the corner? Kind of like when they introduced the old LCD-R model, with no 3d, when new 3d projectors were all the rage?

Either way, am interested in another Lcos player in the market.

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Is there a reason they call it reflective LCD and not LCoS? Aren't they the same thing?
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i'm not crazy about the idea of the phosphor element, it's a consumable that isn't user replaceable.

the contrast has to be highly competitive w JVC @ that price point, especially if it's only native 2K.
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think so,the contrast has to be highly competitive w JVC @ that price point, especially if it's only native 2K.thanks[IMG]http://*******/W6W0dY[/IMG]
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think so,the contrast has to be highly competitive w JVC @ that price point, especially if it's only native 2K.thanks[IMG]http://*******/W6W0dY[/IMG]
I think it will take more than just competitve contrast. Has to be something else, unless they are just relying on brand loyalty and appeal to the large current lcd user base. Any ideas what potential advantages this light source could have? It needs to be bright to compete with the JVC as well.

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Is there a reason they call it reflective LCD and not LCoS? Aren't they the same thing?
Is there a reason JVC calls it DILA and Sony calls it SXRD rather than LCoS. There are trade names the manufacturers use for their own specific variation of LCoS technology.

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Is there a reason JVC calls it DILA and Sony calls it SXRD rather than LCoS. There are trade names the manufacturers use for their own specific variation of LCoS technology.
But that's kind of my point. Reflective LCD isn't a brand name, it's just another way to describe what LCoS is. So why not just call it LCoS?
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But that's kind of my point. Reflective LCD isn't a brand name, it's just another way to describe what LCoS is. So why not just call it LCoS?
I kind of see your point that the term "3LCD Reflective" does not appear to be copyrighted nor a trademarked term and thus is more descriptive of the technology. Perhaps Epson went that route to simply tie it back to their current 3LCD technology so that it would appear to be an advancement of their current LCD technology, as discussed on the 3LCD.com web site below:
http://www.3lcd.com/news/press_relea...release_id=379

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The term LCoS has a lot more market appeal. I think it would be a terrible move on Epson's part to try and sell this as an "LCD" projector, even though LCoS is LCD based.
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Scoop. From inside the Epson brain trust,

It really does not matter what we call it. There are ups and downs to any name. Lcos, the idjuts who will buy this thing, will think Sony if we say Lcos ans Sony will say we have years and years of experience here ahead of them. Its just a form of reflective LCD and ours is better than Sony's (so say some, we will find out about one year from now, not before),

We could call it dila ala JVC but that's copyrighted and why should we give them any acknowledgement. Lcos, Dila, its all reflective LCD.


Why not come up with our own name?

The consumer doesn't care. A name won't sell one more. No matter what we spend on developing and marketing a name for the tech, it will still be reflective LCD tweaked. Every year JVC tweaks theirs. Buy it you idjusts, its a better chip this year.


Tell you what. We will just call it reflective LCD. We don't have to acknowledge any competitors technological name and idjusts at AVS including esteemed press can spend their endless summer discussing why we did what we did for a product at least a year off.

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The information about Epson products are dated one year ago. After the IFA, I believe that Epson will introduce products different than those mentioned, with a surprise for owners of the current top of the range. Lamp is still alive
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