Originally Posted by mptech1
I am not trying to argue, so I hope my reply don't come off as that, but what I am noticing is that when everyone talks about the prices of projectors dropping, the prices don't really drop too far for the so called higher quality projectors. What I mean is that the 1100es came out and was $27k+. Now 2 years later, a 300es came out that was lower in price, just under a 1/3 of the 1100es price, but will anyone say that the 300es is the equal of the 1100es? What I am trying to say is, yes you will be able to get 4k at a lower price, but all you will be getting is the 4k technology, not the other things that supposedly make up a great projector, ie great lens, higher contrast, better build ect... If I am wrong, which is likely, just let me know because I am actually trying to talk my self into spending less money
Me personally, I'm not talking about prices dropping, I'm just looking at being able to get a more "complete" 4K machine in a year or two, for a similar price.
That is what I was wonder about getting that "wider gamut" technology. Will it really be that much better on my home setup, and will I even notice it.
I guess another way to put that answer is, yes, I've noticed a difference between DCI P3 and Rec 709 so I think it will be a benefit. Frankly I think the resolution is the least important and possibly least noticeable of all of the expected benefits of 4K Blu-ray. This is kind of why I'm so bearish on most current 4K machines. They are 4K resolution, but that's it, while the real benefits to 4K content I am looking forward to are Gamut, bit depth, etc.
I see what you are saying. thanks for the advice. My question to you is do you think there will another jump in technology in a say 5-6 years? To say a hypothetical 8k projector?
If we get P3 or Rec 2020 gamut and 10+bit encoding like they are saying 4K Blu-ray will bring, then I would have almost zero interest in "8K". 4K will be a "retina" display or better for me in my HT.
thanks stanger89 for being helpful. all of you posting in this thread really does help with the decision making. Stranger69, I know I wont get the 600es at a great low price, but if it was possible to get it for say $8k right now, would the decision to get it be different? I'm just seeing if those who say to wait is because of price or because of technology, or both. Again thanks.
I'm in the position that I have a projector, so I'm holding out. That said, I sort of look at it like this (I think I posted it in a previous thread): I've got a ~$3000/yr projector budget. I could just buy a new ~$3000 projector every year without too much pain. Say I've got enough saved that I could get a VW600 for $10000 today. Well if I could just wait, next year I'd have budget for a $13,000 projector, so I'd be able to get something better in a year, that's more likely to support the new 4K features. In two years (when there's more 4K content), that would be up to a $16,000 projector.
If I didn't have a projector this year, I could get a (theoretical) $10000 VW600 this year, but then it will likely be 4 years before I could upgrade, and I'd be stuck without all the new features I'm interested in (gamut/etc) for a number of years after. Or I could get a $3000 projector this year, and have the same budget next year for a real 4K machine.
It can go on, and on with what-ifs.
Originally Posted by Craig Peer
I agree. My Sim Lumis looks better in some ways than my VW600. It was expensive, but I've been enjoying it for 5 1/2 years! The other question is when will 4K Blu Ray standards really be finalized? There is talk about an initial standard, and then a better revised standard a couple of years down the road.
I've not seen any official talk about that, just that it will be out Holiday 2015, and will have higher bit depths and wider gamut. Though I could see HDR and HFR being additional profiles later.
I'll continue to watch my 400+ Blu Ray collection for the next 5 years on my VW600 and Lumis, as I watch the dust settle ( if it ever does ).
You're really saying you won't start getting 4K Blu-ray's when they come out, common