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Is it only the Sharp releaseing a 16:9 projector and is there any details on these projectors and cost?

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They said November at CES and I think the price was going to be around $10k (but that's second hand info...). No real details that I know of, 1-chip 1280*720...

<shrug> Hope it works out.

I'm pretty sure Sharp isn't the only one working on a 1280*720 DLP, I know one other company was showing a protoype at the TI booth. The name escapes me right now.

Hopefully Infocomm will have more info.

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My recollection was that the other company was Toshiba. I saw the Sharp, but it was hard to do a good evaluation of a prototype.

I heard November too, but nothing since CES. Given the usual vaporware issues here, I would not expect anyone to ship these in quantity before first quarter of 2002. Maybe December 2001, if you're lucky, but don't hold your breath. Anyway, you will want to wait to see who makes them and what they do. There's a lot of differentiation among the DLP manufacturers, and I'm not so sure I'd just jump on the Sharp horse if it's the first out of the gate.

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Yamaha has a 16:9 DLP as well

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The Toshiba projector (at least the one at CES) was an LCD, the Yamaha (showing at CES) was a 4:3 XGA projector. If they have 16*9 DLP's in the works it won't be for at least another 6 months past Sharp's November (hopefully) release.

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Prototypes tend to be vapourware for quite a while. I would expect maybe by this time next year at the earliest.I expect to see more manufactures using anamorphic lenses as options for the best of both worlds. I know Runco and Dwin are two that are or will be, offering an Anamorphic lens on their DLP projectors.
This is how the Digital Theater units from cristie's/barco/digital projection are doing it on 60ft screens. That way you can use the whole panel resolution and get the extra 33% brightness.
Its quite amazing how well a 1280 x 1024 holds up at 60ft wide so a 10ft wide at 1024 x 768 can look pretty good.
Sure a 1920 x 1024 will look better but it will be a long hard and cold day in hell before we will get this sort of resolution on DLP (at least judging on TI's track history)

The chips being used in the RPTVs are not directly suitable for FP according to TI. The FP chips are being developed and tested. It has something to do with the limited masking needed in RP, at least this is from my conversation with the TI guys in Vegas. These RP sets are still very expensive and just do not look as good as the best FP units.

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David, how do the Rear Projection DLP's compare to the best rear projection CRT's. Has anyone seen the new Hitachi DLP rear proj.? I assume it has a brighter picture but less than acceptable black levels?
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Only three things turned me off the RP-DLP's and that was the, scaling artifacts/black level and rainbow effect. All where very bad in my opinion, but on a 65" screen the brightness and snap is very good.

Color and tracking seem very good and better than a lot of RPTV's but, not quite as good as the best units. I would love to see a tweeked one (DLP RPTV), and I would also like to see the 15K price tags down to half.
Compared to a Crt RPTV these just do not float my boat at the moment, but once again these units are very promising.

Come the third generation of these Dlp set's, I think that Crt may just get the boot in favour of DLP-RPTV. Also look out for DILA-RPTV which looked very good as well.
We will see plenty of good options for RPTV's very soon, but I would personally not be buying these units just yet. I think they need a lot more refinment and development work to be done before videophiles will like them. Take a look at the Dwin Transvision after looking at one of these sets and you will see they need lots of work on the picture and scaler.

Single Chip DLP can actually look quite film like when it is done right.(as long as you are not super sensitive to the rainbow effect of 1 chippers)
If it is going to be used for critical viewing then CRT is still the King.(at least for now)
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David, about 6 to 7 months ago, I read an interview with TI in Widescreen Review. In the article TI expressed interest and reported progress in getting digital projection to replace film. One concern that TI reported was that the movie industry was concerned that home theater projectors would be as good as the units used commercially. TI has assured them that they will have a product superior to what will be available for home use. So, I do not expect they will be in any hurry to offer very high resolution dlp unit. I will see if I can find the article so that I can tell you where to find it.

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wvrich, the new Yamaha DLP does not have the 16x9 DLP chip.
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