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Thanks to William Phelps for his fantastic calibration results ! I've installed my G11 (with ISCO-2 lens) shooting on a 120" Stewart Grayhawk, and am just blown away. Color, black levels (yes, even black levels) detail, etc. with this combination is just stunning.

I highly recommend William to anyone considering calibration.

Sorry if my photo skills aren't up to par (I tried, really I did) and these are not touched up photos (just trimmed).

Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind, Fish Face of Okinawa, and Terminator 2 are all from the Hi-Vision laserdisc format. Point Break and Nutty Professor are HTPC DVDs scaled up to 1360x1024 (thanks to Dean McManis for all his help).

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http://www.jet-x.com/brian/FF.jpg
http://www.jet-x.com/brian/T2.jpg
http://www.jet-x.com/brian/T2b.jpg
http://www.jet-x.com/brian/T2c.jpg


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http://www.jet-x.com/brian/PointBreak.jpg

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Hi, Brian.

What scaler do you use for DVD?

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HTPC (Pentium 3 933Mhz w/Radeon, Powerstrip, and WinDVD).

Leaps and bounds better than my QuadScan.


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These might be the best screen shots I have seen from the D-ILA. Kudos to Brian and Dean.

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Great photos. Man, I can't get my digital camera to do that.

Thanks for posting those! They practically look like screen grabs off of the media instead of photos of the projected image...they are that good!

The detail on "Fish Face of Okinawa" is unreal.

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Excellent screen shots! My G11 is with William right now. I can't wait to get it back!

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Thanks for all the kind words.....

Not bad for analog HDTV eh? The detail in Fish Face of Okinawa is awesome, and trying to pick just one or two scenes to shoot was tough. The other problem with photographing these was trying to do still frame photography. With interlaced video and freeze frame, it was tough. Hence what is above.....

The T2 scene with the fence and park explosion, that was moving hence the blending of two scenes look. Everything else was still frame.

I'm exhilerated with the performance I'm getting out of the D-ILA (wish my HTPC was easier to set up and get working!)

I have another 15 Hi-Vision LDs, I'll see what I can grab tonight!

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They do look great, except Eddie Murphy is looking kind of reddish. Is that just a camera error, or possibly a poorly mastered DVD?

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great job, I have been trying to take pics of my dila with my canon g1 3.34 pixels but have never had good result because I dont know what settings to put on.


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Sheer eye candy, Brian.

Is black really jet black as it appears in your
photos?

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Yeah, the shots look wonderful.

When i saw Close Encounters I figured that you had gotten an advanced copy of the DVD, but the well mastered HD-LDs do look great.

Robert,

The blacks are not quite that good, but the color quality is. Most digital cameras darken the picture a bit. When I shot some pictures I had to turn the brightness up (from -6 to +2) to get a more accurate black level representation from my digital camera.

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Nice pictures, Brian! What were your exposure settings?

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William,

After doing the seminar with a Cliff-calibrated G15, I am a convert. The HTPC image at 1360x1024 (768), with the 54x96 GrayHawk, was incredible. And this even without using a Radeon.

If (or should I say, "when") I ever change to a D-ILA, bet that I'll be contacting you or Cliff to calibrate it. Wish you could've been there!

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Brian- I got my G11 calibrated by Cliff using William's stuff. I was as pleased as you apparently are. I use a gray paint directly on the wall - I'm sure it doesn't compare to your Grayhawk, but the picture is stunning! I hope there is still room for improvement when the Panamorph arrives!

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I was using a Sony DSC-S70 3.34Mpxl camera.

My settings were infinite focus, on a tripod, and with the shutter speed set at 1/8. That seemed to be the best capture I could get. Lower shutter speeds made the picture brighter than it really was, and higher shutter speeds made the picture much darker than it is.

I must say this Sony camera tends to err on the red side (giving photos a slight red tinge). My last Sony 2.1 gave photos a slight blue hue to them. Knowing this, I still did NOT correct these in Photoshop. Hence why Nutty Professor looks a little on the red side.

Robert,

The blacks are pretty darn close. When watching the daylight scenes, yes, the blacks you see below are pretty representative of the black levels I'm getting. But in sure black scenese like the first Close Encounter shot, the blacks aren't as jet-black. But, they are pretty darn close that I have --&gt;ZERO&lt;-- regrets giving up my Sony D50q.

Seng,

Your shutter speed needs to be slower. Experiment with that.

Dean,

Basically correct, but then again Dean's set-up is throwing out almost 50% more in brightness. But yes, I think the digi-pictures darken a bit. Dean, the new scenery discs I got are just awesome......

William,

Take a bow, I'm blown away. And since Saturday night (when I got my screen - beats watching on a purple wall!) I've been in there watching movies on a bean bag every night. Oh the ecstacy......I thought throwing up some pictures would do the calibration justice....

Okay, I'll put up some more photos tomorrow or something......

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Hi Brian,

Just wondering...you mentioned the screen is 120". Is that diagonal, or is your GrayHawk screen 10 feet wide?

Also, how is the brightness with the G11 on the GrayHawk at that size? It looks really good from the pictures.

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It's a 120" diagonal 16x9 screen.

Brightness seems fine, no complaints here.

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