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SONY VPL-HW65, VPL-VW320 and VPL-VW520 IFA 2015

SONY will have 3 new home theater projectors this year at IFA 2015 /

The HW55ES replacement, the VPL-HW65ES or VPL-HW65 :

http://www.projection-homecinema.fr/...A7ant-du-hw55/

The SONY VPL-VW320 or VPL-VW320ES (replacement for the VPL-VW300 or VW350) :

http://www.projection-homecinema.fr/...a-berlin-2015/

The SONY VPL-VW520 or VW-520ES (replacement for the VW500ES) :

http://www.projection-homecinema.fr/...a-berlin-2015/

All this 3 new Models will be available in Europe in October 2015 so right after IFA

http://www.projection-homecinema.fr/...y-a-lifa-2015/

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Juding by the small model number jump, this is probably going to be a very small improvement, like e.g. adding 18Gbps HDMI 2.0 chips, maybe adding support for accepting HDR content from 4K Blu-Ray. Probably no big changes other than that. Which I find a bit disappointing. I was hoping to finally see LED or laser light sources. Maybe the rumored VW1200 will be a bigger improvement?
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Kraine, can you summarize the improvements and/or new features each model has over it's previous generation unit? Also, are there only three new models coming out? There won't be a replacement for the 1100ES?

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Juding by the small model number jump, this is probably going to be a very small improvement, like e.g. adding 18Gbps HDMI 2.0 chips, maybe adding support for accepting HDR content from 4K Blu-Ray. Probably no big changes other than that. Which I find a bit disappointing. I was hoping to finally see LED or laser light sources. Maybe the rumored VW1200 will be a bigger improvement?
Small improvements each year has pretty much the norm since I've been into home theater.
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Well, Sony's native 4K projectors were more than a small improvement. I was hoping that Epson would force Sony's and JVC's hand, with introducing better light sources...
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Juding by the small model number jump, this is probably going to be a very small improvement, like e.g. adding 18Gbps HDMI 2.0 chips, maybe adding support for accepting HDR content from 4K Blu-Ray. Probably no big changes other than that. Which I find a bit disappointing. I was hoping to finally see LED or laser light sources. Maybe the rumored VW1200 will be a bigger improvement?
The HDMI ports will definitely be full 18Gps HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2. I would hope Sony has added P3 to the 2 new 4k projectors as well. It will be interesting to see if brightness and contrast specs are the same or if anything else has been improved.

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Well, Sony's native 4K projectors were more than a small improvement. I was hoping that Epson would force Sony's and JVC's hand, with introducing better light sources...
As expensive as the Sony UHD projectors are and presumably will be for 2016, adding LED would probably increase the cost further (I assume) so maybe they decided to hold off. But from a performance standpoint, once you're at 4K you're only going to get small or incremental PQ improvements going forward (small increases in contrast, for example).

Now with the 1080p 65ES, I could see more room for improvement compared to the 55ES while still keep the costs relatively contained, but we'll see.
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I'd be really interested in the vpl-vw520 U.S. Version!!!
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Too bad ... Sony only made the VW line 20 better
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adding 18Gbps HDMI 2.0 chips, maybe adding support for accepting HDR content from 4K Blu-Ray.
That peeks my interest greatly!
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If the new Sony's have full HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2, P3 filter and HDR support, what else is there to add. Rec2020 does not matter since we are years out of having source material.
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If the new Sony's have full HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2, P3 filter and HDR support, what else is there to add. Rec2020 does not matter since we are years out of having source material.
Well, this features are to be expected this year, isn't it(almost mandatory)
The big question for Sony this year is laser or not(phosphor solution)
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If the new Sony's have full HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2, P3 filter and HDR support, what else is there to add.
How about a light source that...

1) ... is bright enough to actually breath some li(ght)fe into HDR (and 3D)?
2) ... doesn't require constant re-calibration all the time?
3) ... doesn't need replacing every couple hundred hours to get near to the advertized brightness?
4) ... can reproduce P3 completely, and that with ease and without a (significant) brightness drop?
5) ... isn't bothered by being turned on/off for short periods of time?
6) ... delivers fast on/off times?

Of course 1-4) are much more important than 5) and 6), but I think it doesn't hurt to be clear about all the advantages a modern light source could offer.
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If the new Sony's have full HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2, P3 filter and HDR support, what else is there to add.
Higher native contrast: The VW300 in particular and the VW500 just aren't good enough for my tastes in this regard. Although I already had the X500 when I saw the VW300 I felt it would have been a backwards move in most PQ aspects that I'm concerned about. Can't see a big improvement happening in that regard with the 320 and 520 models though, but time will tell.

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So, Sony only releases new projectors every two years, correct? So this will be it until 2017?

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In the 2 years since the release of the 600(500), the Yen has dropped 20% in value relative to the $. So you think Sony will reduce retail price of the 520. Fat chance.
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If the new Sony's have full HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2, P3 filter and HDR support, what else is there to add. Rec2020 does not matter since we are years out of having source material.
I will be real surprised in the new models have HDR support. Other than that and either a laser or led light source there isn't anything to add but they might have improvements to the 4k chip in the native contrast area...but probably not.

Really hope JVC surprises us with a 4k projector.

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Yeah, I would think HDR would be premature for FPs at this point.

I think with JVC it depends on their financial situation. If they are as bad as some say, we may not see anything really new.

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kraine already mentioned no 4k for JVC fellas. No surprises coming...
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How about a light source that...

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6) ... delivers fast on/off times?

Of course 1-4) are much more important than 5) and 6), but I think it doesn't hurt to be clear about all the advantages a modern light source could offer.
In other words laser light source. We shall see.

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kraine already mentioned no 4k for JVC fellas. No surprises coming...
JVC is never at IFA and always announce their projectors at Cedia so hopefully Kraine's sources just don't know but he did mention they would be eshift, would accept UHD bluray over HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2, and a little bit brighter. I have a small glimmer of hope that they will have a top of the line model that will be true 4k that they have kept a tight lip on but you are probably right and I just don't want to hear it.
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Probably no hdr no rec 2020 and sure no laser. Perhaps New multim?dia function... (Netflix 4k/4k Sony movies)
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JVC is never at IFA and always announce their projectors at Cedia so hopefully Kraine's sources just don't know but he did mention they would be eshift, would accept UHD bluray over HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2, and a little bit brighter. I have a small glimmer of hope that they will have a top of the line model that will be true 4k that they have kept a tight lip on but you are probably right and I just don't want to hear it.
JVC is always at IFA and show their new models in a closed showing, all people entering must wait until Cedia before they can say or write anything about the new models until they are officially launched.

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JVC is always at IFA and show their new models in a closed showing, all people entering must wait until Cedia before they can say or write anything about the new models until they are officially launched.
Thanks for correcting me, I didn't realize this. So, obviously Sony doesn't do the same thing and since we already know the new model #'s will the specs be listed for these at IFA?

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Wonder if the hw65 will have a better lens, maybe all glass?
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Wonder if the hw65 will have a better lens, maybe all glass?
Can't see it myself, especially as most buyers will be expecting it to be the same price or cheaper than the current '55.

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I've added a little more infos about Sony'S new Home Theater Projectors :

In resumee, the HW65 will bring a new Reality Création version but si still a 1080P version with a classical Lamp.

There Will be a white version of one of the 4K Projectors (I'm guessing the VW320)

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I've added a little more infos about Sony'S new Home Theater Projectors :

In resumee, the HW65 will bring a new Reality Création version but si still a 1080P version with a classical Lamp.

There Will be a white version of one of the 4K Projectors (I'm guessing the VW320)
I was just about to purchase a hw40-es at a pretty nice price here in Australia, but these new models have made me wait. I previously couldn't justify the price leap to the hw55-es, however if they improve on it or reduce the price I'm more likely to bite on the hw-65es.

Now the waiting game ........ Any strong predictions on what they will improve?
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