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View Poll Results: Do you use any sort of masking system for your screen?
Yes 48 57.14%
Yes, but I'm planning on removing it 0 0%
No 21 25.00%
No, but I'm planning on adding one 15 17.86%
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Do you use any sort of masking system for your screen?

Just wanted to know how many of you use any sort of masking system for your screen.
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I have a 2.35 screen. I have some black velvet covered panels that I manually hang over the outer portions of the screen when viewing 16/9 HDTV content.

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I use removable boarders that I made out of 1/8 door skin.
They are covered in a thin black cloth (not velvet), which works quite well IMO. I have a cat and I thought it would be very difficult to clean her short hair out from the velvet.
The panels are held in place with thin magnetic strips and the magnets stick too thin pieces of steel around the boarder of the screen.
The steel is actually roof flashing that was custom bent to my specs. That part was very inexpensive at around 35 bucks.
Matter of fact the whole screen was inexpensive as far as materials were concerned, but to design and build the whole thing was very labour intensive.
The most expensive part was the custom Da-lite hook and grommet screen, but that was only around 400.00$.

Lacing it up was a tricky business _ getting the tension right.
I'm very happy with it, I can move the boarders right up to the edge of the picture, no matter what the aspect ratio.
And this works especially well with my 300es as there is no lens memory.
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Powered AT masking on curved 2.40 AT screen.

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Masking

I am using a 2.35 Seymourav retractable with side masking panel
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I have a 100" 16x9 screen and don't use any masking. Projector is in my living room. I really don't mind the black borders.
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I have a 133" 16x9 Da-Lite 2.8 gain HP screen that I have masked with black velvet down to 2.35:1. I then use black velvet curtains that I manually position to achieve 16x9 and 4:3 images in my CIH setup. I have Velcro strips along the bottom of the 2:35 screen and on the sides of the curtains that hold them in place. When I want 2:35, I just open the curtains completely.
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Yes. I run a twin screen set-up.

Wouldn't be without it!


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I currently have a 2.4 High Power 2.35 115" diagonal screen that I manually use black velvet to mask the sides when watching 1.78/1.85/1.33 content. I plan on getting a 2.35 Studiotek 1.0 gain screen this fall and will make panels covered in the black velvet to hang in place to hopefully pair with a new 4k projector.
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I have a 2.35 screen. I have some black velvet covered panels that I manually hang over the outer portions of the screen when viewing 16/9 HDTV content.

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Same here, though I've love something automated, even if it's only electric black curtains.

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I made some manual panels, but I'm usually too lazy to hang them.

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People selling masking screens should use this poll to show that masking screens are used 2:1 over non masking screens.
Just kidding. The vast majority of people do not mask, but once you try it, most (probably closer to all) really like it. The simpler it is to implement the masking, the more likely you are to use it. The screen I had before my current screen was also a masking screen and it was a manually operated system, but you just had to vertically slide the top panel down. The bottom panel raised up the exact same amount automatically, with top panel since they were tied together. Took longer to walk the 11 feet to the screen, than it did to set up the masking. When masking is easy to deploy, you will find that it is used a lot.

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Yes. I run a twin screen set-up.

Wouldn't be without it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Ncvn_Qtdg
Why two screens, since both of them are masking screens?

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People selling masking screens should use this poll to show that masking screens are used 2:1 over non masking screens.
Just kidding. The vast majority of people do not mask, but once you try it, most (probably closer to all) really like it. The simpler it is to implement the masking, the more likely you are to use it. The screen I had before my current screen was also a masking screen and it was a manually operated system, but you just had to vertically slide the top panel down. The bottom panel raised up the exact same amount automatically, with top panel since they were tied together. Took longer to walk the 11 feet to the screen, than it did to set up the masking. When masking is easy to deploy, you will find that it is used a lot.
Yeah, I'd use mine if it was automated, but at least or me, manual masking just isn't worth the effort and automated masking is just way, way too expensive.

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I have two screens - one 2.35:1 and one 16:9. Which is my way of " manually masking " the image.

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I suppose the easiest and least expensive way to go would be to have a fairly large 2.35:1 screen so when the odd 16:9 movie came along the height of the image wouldn't shrink too much and all one would have to do is draw the curtains on either side.
Off course you would need a projector with lens memory.
But then off course you have some odd-ball movie like Bat-Man where the director couldn't make up his mind...
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I suppose the easiest and least expensive way to go would be to have a fairly large 2.35:1 screen so when the odd 16:9 movie came along the height of the image wouldn't shrink too much and all one would have to do is draw the curtains on either side.
Off course you would need a projector with lens memory.
But then off course you have some odd-ball movie like Bat-Man where the director couldn't make up his mind...
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10' scope screen no masking for 16:9.

I stretch most 16:9 content to fit the scope screen using jriver.

I am planning a new dedicated room and going bananas with regards to aspect ratio of the screen and masking:-)
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I have a 2:35 screen and don't mask for 16:9 content. I had considered it, but I don't even really notice the vertical dark areas when watching a 1:85 movie as my room is completely dark and carpeted/painted black. Something about the areas of the side of the image are less noticeable than if they were on the top and bottom of image. If I had a 16x9 screen, I know I would need to mask.
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10' scope screen no masking for 16:9.

I stretch most 16:9 content to fit the scope screen using jriver.

I am planning a new dedicated room and going bananas with regards to aspect ratio of the screen and masking:-)

Blasphemy !
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Blasphemy !
Ah HA Ha ha...
That's funny.
Using JRiver would stretch a 16:9 image and make it look fat and long wouldn't it ?

Nothing from the OP yet, maybe he was scared off _ information overload.
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I love motorized masking, but for what it is (glamorized automatic blinds) it is too expensive. I guess you can say that for many things in this hobby.
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I made my own, they work perfectly. How ever if I had the money I would love a screen with auto masking.


DIY masking.

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Yes. I run a twin screen set-up.

Wouldn't be without it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Ncvn_Qtdg

Nice, but technically, with the TV in the room, you run a " 3 screen setup " !

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I made my own, they work perfectly. How ever if I had the money I would love a screen with auto masking.
Yeah. Same here.
I built a floor to ceiling standing frame mostly out of 10 ' 1"x2"'s, and a couple 7' 2"x4"'s, black velvet, grommets , a cheap pack of shower rings, and a PVC pipe.
It sounds ghetto, and it probably is compared to most peoples set ups here. But it really only takes a little bit of TLC and planning to "mask" away the cheaper (but functional) materials so that all you see is a classy black wall with a sharply demarcated white screen in the center- adjustable for all aspect ratios.

The other big benefit is that, should I want to increase the screensize- as I just did recently, altering the frame is a relatively simple, and inexpensive, process.

DIY definitely has it's advantages.
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Why two screens, since both of them are masking screens?
Screen life started with a 92" HP, the 16:9 image was fine from the viewing distance, but the Wide screen suffered in size and impact. So I decided to employ a 106" HP mounted closer, so the viewing angle would make the 106" appear 33% wider than the 92". It's a CIH/CIA setup by viewing angle.

92" is used to view most 16:9 and poorly encoded 2.35:1. The 106" is used to view most 2.35:1 and Imax/Dual AR films in 16:9 mode. Brightness between the screens is similar and, the screen area of the 92" 16:9 and the 106"in 2.35:1 mode is the same.

Works well for me, I a tinkerer!

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Nice, but technically, with the TV in the room, you run a " 3 screen setup " !
True!

It's now a 4 screen/Twin audio setup....

BTW the 4:3 Sony is never used...I don't have the heart to get rid of it, love it's chunky bulletproof construction..it's an old Profeel.


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I have a 2:35 screen and don't mask for 16:9 content. I had considered it, but I don't even really notice the vertical dark areas when watching a 1:85 movie as my room is completely dark and carpeted/painted black. Something about the areas of the side of the image are less noticeable than if they were on the top and bottom of image. If I had a 16x9 screen, I know I would need to mask.
Ditto.

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I have a HP 16:9 135" diagonal screen and used to have panels wrapped in black velvet for masking for 2.35 material. This was an effective intervention for the horizontal gray bars that I found intrusive with my DLP I had about a decade ago. I still used those panels occasionally with my JVC RS1 about 8 years ago but they went by the wayside when I got a RS10 a couple of years later. At that point, while I still didn't like the dark gray bars, the masking wasn't worth it for me.
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