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New $995 Panamorph Lens

We have been talking to Panamorph about how expensive anamorphic lenses are and it seems the bottom line is a combination of cost, volume and supporting distribution channels. A lens with maybe the quality of their CineVista and retailing around $995 seems like it would be something that projector owners would be interested in, especially with the increase in brightness and resolution it would bring when watching 2.35:1 movies. Along with the speed and accuracy of aspect ratio changes. So we decided to put this to the test. If Panamorph gets an “I’m interested” from 500 people then we’ll start a Powerbuy program with them to make this happen. Then as soon as they get 300 preorders for the lens it will start shipping in about 90 days. For more info on the program and to send them an “I’m interested” go to: http://www.panamorph.com/x-lens-project/

Added 8/12/15
Well, it turns out there were over 50 people interested in the first 5 days of this thread alone so with that kind of momentum Panamorph is moving forward with the powerbuy. At this point the target is 150 pre-orders asap so the lens can start shipping around Thanksgiving. All the details are on Panamorph’s X1 page but basically these will be phone orders into Panamorph so they can touch base with everyone regarding the order, questions, setup, etc. The first 300 pre-orders will also get a customized 4.2”x1.75” “Thank you” metal plate for making this project happen that you can frame and hang, mount on your screen border, etc.

Added 9/12/15
Sorry about the inconvenience. Panamorph is working on getting the site back up now but it won't be active until Sunday.
Because of this they have extended the free mount offer until Monday (9/14/15) night.

Added 10/09/15
Update from Panamorph:

The X1 lens, now officially named “Phoenix”, is through the design phase and has been tested/demoed with flying ECC-corrected colors (pun intended) using actual production optics. We’re now ready for setting up full production. While we now have over 700 people interested in the lens the fact is that we still need actual purchase commitments from a lot more than we currently have to cover tooling and other production startup costs. So, being in the final stretch, here’s what we’re going to do to make things happen as fast as possible for everyone.

Order the Phoenix lens now and the price is just $895 (ie $100 off).

Order the Phoenix lens with the projector attachment kit and the price is just $995 (ie $200 off).

The projector attachment kit includes your choice of either the newly designated XM1 custom mount for most JVC/Epson/Sony projectors OR the newly designated XMU universal mount which attaches to most projectors mounted with the Chief RPA and Omnimount ceiling mounts. More info on the mounts can be found on the Phoenix webpage.

Everybody who has already signed up (Thank You!) will have their pricing adjusted accordingly.

This is a limited time deal, so please order as soon as possible through the Phoenix webpage.

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We have been talking to Panamorph about how expensive anamorphic lenses are and it seems the bottom line is a combination of cost, volume and supporting distribution channels. A lens with maybe the quality of their CineVista and retailing around $995 seems like it would be something that projector owners would be interested in, especially with the increase in brightness and resolution it would bring when watching 2.35:1 movies. Along with the speed and accuracy of aspect ratio changes. So we decided to put this to the test. If Panamorph gets an “I’m interested” from 500 people then we’ll start a Powerbuy program with them to make this happen. Then as soon as they get 300 preorders for the lens it will start shipping in about 90 days. For more info on the program and to send them an “I’m interested” go to: http://www.panamorph.com/x-lens-project/
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I really hope this comes to fruition for those on a beer budget like me. I'll definitely keep my eye on this and subscribe to this thread.

Edit: I also signed up.

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What's the normal retail?

EDIT: Never mind, I see this is for a new potential product that would be similar to the $3k CineVista.

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I sent them an "I'm interested" at that link, but then it occurred to me that I'm in Canada. Is this offer available to Canadians? If so, and assuming you get enough interest, do we have a choice as to shipping methods?
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I wish I knew more about the benefits this offers. I may try to watch the videos on the site.
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I sent them an "I'm interested" at that link, but then it occurred to me that I'm in Canada. Is this offer available to Canadians? If so, and assuming you get enough interest, do we have a choice as to shipping methods?
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I really hope this comes to fruition for those on a beer budget like me. I'll definitely keep my eye on this and subscribe to this thread.
Watching the thread will not do anything. If you have an interest, let them know by signing up.

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Watching the thread will not do anything. If you have an interest, let them know by signing up.
I already did.
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Hello,

Is this available for the EU market also?
If so, I'll sign up.
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Yes and maybe on the shipping.
If the shipping involves UPS, I will most definitely pass. I refuse to pay their outrageous and completely unnecessary brokerage fees.
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Is this available for the EU market also?
If so, I'll sign up.
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Absolutely! This lens will be available worldwide.
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If the shipping involves UPS, I will most definitely pass. I refuse to pay their outrageous and completely unnecessary brokerage fees.

I'm sure you could request FedEx. Or do what many Canadians do - get a US shipping address at a mailbox / shipping service location, and have them ship it to you via the service of your choosing.

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If the shipping involves UPS, I will most definitely pass. I refuse to pay their outrageous and completely unnecessary brokerage fees.
I am assuming that you would want USPS. Which may be a possibility. Would need to work out the details.
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I dont have a projector, but I expect to get one in the next house and up until I saw this thread I thought I would never get an anamorphic lens due to the cost. I'd like to sign up and show interest mainly to facilitate things like this for such a small market, but it looks like having a projector is a requirement. Could I just put in "N/A"? I want to help out people like myself who dont have the means for an anamorphic lens at its current cost.
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I dont have a projector, but I expect to get one in the next house and up until I saw this thread I thought I would never get an anamorphic lens due to the cost. I'd like to sign up and show interest mainly to facilitate things like this for such a small market, but it looks like having a projector is a requirement. Could I just put in "N/A"? I want to help out people like myself who dont have the means for an anamorphic lens at its current cost.
That's not a problem. Please put To Be Determined on the form. Thanks for your help!
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I wish I knew more about the benefits this offers. I may try to watch the videos on the site.
The video on our home page does a great job explaining the benefits so if you have some time it is definitely worth checking out. Speaking of videos, here's one from someone using our CineVista lens with a BenQ projector showing how the lens and projector work together.
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That's not a problem. Please put To Be Determined on the form. Thanks for your help!
Done! Thanks!
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I'm def interested to put a toe in the water with an A-lens at this kind of price. One question I do have is that if you have to use ECC or panel alignment with the lens and you're already using it to have precise convergence normally, how is there going to be a separate panel shift memory or is there a feature I've never been aware of on my 1100 and 600 for that in A-lens mode or something? Or does this lens stay in the output path permanently, so there's only ever the need for 1 memory to correct it and any existing convergence issues?

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With this lens you might have to use the convergence adjustment, better quality lenses less so. The current Cinevista lens can be bought with a manual or motorized mount where lens can be moved out of the way for 16:9 material. The basic mounting system the lens is fixed in place and you either watch 16:9 material stretched or use the projectors processing to squeeze the picture to display a correct 16:9 aspect ratio.
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I signed up as well but have some research to do before they get to the point where they start asking for money.

So this is a new product and not on their website but it sounds like the Cinevista is the closest model to compare it to. How will it differ from the Cinevista? Just general build quality because it is much cheaper?
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I'm def interested to put a toe in the water with an A-lens at this kind of price. One question I do have is that if you have to use ECC or panel alignment with the lens and you're already using it to have precise convergence normally, how is there going to be a separate panel shift memory or is there a feature I've never been aware of on my 1100 and 600 for that in A-lens mode or something? Or does this lens stay in the output path permanently, so there's only ever the need for 1 memory to correct it and any existing convergence issues?
Good question. This new lens is designed to stay in front of the primary lens at all times. This way you only have to implement the ECC once.
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The anamorphic demo video from post #10 shows a BenQ W1070. Is the X1 compatible with the BenQ W1070? I didn't see it listed on the sign-up page.
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I signed up as well but have some research to do before they get to the point where they start asking for money.

So this is a new product and not on their website but it sounds like the Cinevista is the closest model to compare it to. How will it differ from the Cinevista? Just general build quality because it is much cheaper?
You're correct, the quality of the image is going to be very close to the CineVista but the overall design will look a lot different.
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The anamorphic demo video from post #10 shows a BenQ W1070. Is the X1 compatible with the BenQ W1070? I didn't see it listed on the sign-up page.
Yes. The X1 will work with the BenQ W1070. If you don't see a model listed that you are using, please let us know and we will get you the right info and see about updating our website. We just added the BenQ W1070.
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500 people? I realize AVS is a big forum, but that seems like quite the stretch.
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500 people? I realize AVS is a big forum, but that seems like quite the stretch.
The 500 does not all have to come from AVS Forum.

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Done. I want 2.40 widescreen movies at a great price.
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