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The Official Sony VPL-VW550ES/ VPL-VW675ES Owners Thread

I have noticed that there is no thread for the VPL-VW675ES yet, so I have decided to start one.
I have posted this already under the VPL-VW665ES thread, so I hope I am not violating any rules by posting this a second time:

I finally got my new VPL-VW675ES yesterday which is replacing a VPL-VW600ES.
I am projecting onto a 11 foot wide acoustically transparent 16:9 screen (~1.1 Gain - Weave material - Carada masking system).

So far, so good. Using the Samsung UBD-K8500 as a source through my Denon AVR-X7200WA.
Automatic HDR10 and BT709->BT2020 switching works as expected when playing UHD Blu-Ray - so the Samsung Player and the projector seem to get along.
The projector indicates HDR as incoming signal info.
The Denon signal info page shows a 10-bit HDMI signal coming out of the player which is passed as 10-bit into the projector.
In order to do HDR justice, I had the lamp mode to 'High'. Highlights look nice !
I wish there was a way to engage High-Lamp mode automatically (if desired) when a HDR signal is detected.
For normal HD/BT709 content 'Low' lamp mode is absolutely sufficient (as it was with my VW600ES).
As expected, the overall subjective contrast is increased (non-HDR, regular Blu-Ray and HD content) when compared to the VW600ES.
For HDR content, I set the HDR contrast control to 100% for the time being.
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I have noticed that there is no thread for the VPL-VW675ES yet, so I have decided to start one.
I have posted this already under the VPL-VW665ES thread, so I hope I am not violating any rules by posting this a second time:

I finally got my new VPL-VW675ES yesterday which is replacing a VPL-VW600ES.
I am projecting onto a 11 foot wide acoustically transparent 16:9 screen (~1.1 Gain - Weave material - Carada masking system).

So far, so good. Using the Samsung UBD-K8500 as a source through my Denon AVR-X7200WA.
Automatic HDR10 and BT709->BT2020 switching works as expected when playing UHD Blu-Ray - so the Samsung Player and the projector seem to get along.
The projector indicates HDR as incoming signal info.
The Denon signal info page shows a 10-bit HDMI signal coming out of the player which is passed as 10-bit into the projector.
In order to do HDR justice, I had the lamp mode to 'High'. Highlights look nice !
I wish there was a way to engage High-Lamp mode automatically (if desired) when a HDR signal is detected.
For normal HD/BT709 content 'Low' lamp mode is absolutely sufficient (as it was with my VW600ES).
As expected, the overall subjective contrast is increased (non-HDR, regular Blu-Ray and HD content) when compared to the VW600ES.
For HDR content, I set the HDR contrast control to 100% for the time being.
-Melgon

I wondered why someone didn't start a separate VW675/550 thread should have been done. I had the VW600 myself and was considering the 665 in the spring but picked up the JVC RS600 instead . The 675ES is still on my radar but I'm not sure the move at this point would be beneficial . There are certainly pros and cons, though in reality I think they are weak.


Did you notice any significant difference between the 600 and 675? My 600 was not cutting the mustard for 3D on my 134" 2.35:1 curved screen and that was with a 1.8 gain screen anamorphic lens and shortest throw possible. The JVC RS600 does a better job on the brightness front and the 3D is incredible. I would hope the VW675ES would be about the same amount of light output for 3D, if only the same as the VW600 I would not want to switch.


Congrats on the purchase btw. Will be interesting to see your thoughts as you progress and tweak the settings a little more and possibly do a calibration once the lamp has some hours .

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Order placed for a 550 with estimated delivery around 16th of december
Apparently, there is currently a 400 units backorder for Europe and it seems that Sony have a hard time to keep the production rates up. My dealer also told me that they have never seen such a great interest in a Sony pj before as with the 550 which surely is related to the lack of supply.

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Did they solve contrast degradation problem? Thank you
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Did they solve contrast degradation problem? Thank you
According to another user in this forum who spoke with Sony engineers, this was corrected already in the 665 so i think its safe to say that any fix implemented in that projector is also implemented in the 675.

You can find this info in the 5000ES thread.
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I also own the projector and its really awesome so far. (but had a big jump from dla x30)

I have a bit of a niche question but maybe someone knows.

My screen is 21:9 so i would like to game in 21:9. Is it possible via PC to give the projector a custom 21:9 resolution and display it 1:1 so that the rest (inactive pixels) are just blank or black? Anyone tried this yet?
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I also own the projector and its really awesome so far. (but had a big jump from dla x30)

I have a bit of a niche question but maybe someone knows.

My screen is 21:9 so i would like to game in 21:9. Is it possible via PC to give the projector a custom 21:9 resolution and display it 1:1 so that the rest (inactive pixels) are just blank or black? Anyone tried this yet?
You can set a custom resolution of 1920 x 800. This will create black bars like a regular anamorphic movie.
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Nice thank you Hopefully that works with a 21:9 for 4k also. Will test it tonight.
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Nice thank you Hopefully that works with a 21:9 for 4k also. Will test it tonight.
If your graphics card support 4k output, you can set a custom res that will force a 21:9 aspect ratio to your pj.
Gaming on a cinemascope screen is awesome!
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Just be sure the game is set to render the game at the appropriate resolution otherwise the aspect ratio will not be correct. The nice thing about gaming on a PC is the immense customizable options.
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Can't get it to work unfortunately. I can setup 3840x1646px with 30hz but with 60hz it fails.

What i noticed is that whenever i choose an custom resolution it has RGB enabled, maybe its just to much in 4k/60p with RGB. Can't select ycbcr 4:2:0 unfortunately.

Anyone was successfully or maybe can test it? Would be great because iam kinda stuck atm
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When I set a 4K resolution on the PC it automatically changes to ycbcr. why are you trying to use a custom resolution instead of the standard ones?

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Hey Bandyka,

maybe there is a better way for 21:9 gaming? Iam a noob when it comes to that so i tried to setup a 21:9 resolution. What i found out so far is that as long as you setup a custom resolution you are stuck with RGB because nvidia classifies it as a "PC" resolution, not a "Ultra-HD, HD, SD" resolution. (at least thats my observation so far)

Is there an easier way to make the games run in 21:9 which i not thought of? As said never tried it before.

On another note: Today i found out that no matter how i change the panel alignment, i can't get all parts of the image to be equally sharp. Is this normal or did i got an bad panel? Don't get my wrong its not that its totally unfocused and the picture itself is great but if i perfectly sharpen while standing in front of the screen i noticed that not all parts of the picture got the same sharpness. Ive tested with this picture: https://cl.ly/062x442b1A1H

How do you guys do your panel alignments, in the final zoom / shift (position) or just make the picture smaller to see everything at once? Any tips are appreciated. With my x30 it was a lot easier to align the panel but of course not that detailed.

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Hey Bandyka,

maybe there is a better way for 21:9 gaming? Iam a noob when it comes to that so i tried to setup a 21:9 resolution. What i found out so far is that as long as you setup a custom resolution you are stuck with RGB because nvidia classifies it as a "PC" resolution, not a "Ultra-HD, HD, SD" resolution. (at least thats my observation so far)

Is there an easier way to make the games run in 21:9 which i not thought of? As said never tried it before.

On another note: Today i found out that no matter how i change the panel alignment, i can't get all parts of the image to be equally sharp. Is this normal or did i got an bad panel? Don't get my wrong its not that its totally unfocused and the picture itself is great but if i perfectly sharpen while standing in front of the screen i noticed that not all parts of the picture got the same sharpness. Ive tested with this picture: https://cl.ly/062x442b1A1H
Lens shift angles, chromatic aberration come to mind... If you use lens shift and move the image 50% to your left or right, does this sharpness change as you move the image or does it effectively stay still on your screen?

Make sure your lens is perfectly level with the screen. If the left side of your lens is further away from the right side etc this may be happening.

Also you may just have a bad lens sample. You would not be the first. That's an area where Sony decided to save some money on development it seems.
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Thanks a lot Javs, tonight (it's already 4 am in germany) i will continue testing this. Maybe iam just to picky because the motion picture itself is awesome. I think i should have never tested that image in the first place.
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Got it to work with this tool. Played some Tomb Raider and it's just awesome in 21:9. Love the view.

Two shots from my session. (made with a mobile phone)

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Got it to work with this tool. Played some Tomb Raider and it's just awesome in 21:9. Love the view.

Two shots from my session. (made with a mobile phone)

https://cl.ly/1y0w3I1u1o0J
https://cl.ly/3H2g2i3p3A0u
That looks great!
I also plan to go the 21:9 route for gaming but in my case with a PS4. Will use my Radiance Pro VP to stretch the 16:9 image to fill the whole screen.

How do you feel about the black levels and contrast on the 675 so far?
I expect a small increase in this area from the previous 665 which i already think have great contrast performance.
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Installed my VPL-VW675ES last night and am thoroughly impressed with the performance. The picture is phenomenal. Shocking actually. It looks like i have a giant 120 inch 4K UHD tv now. I'm just debating whether to upgrade the screen or not as I can't see how the picture can get any better.

She was very easy and straightforward to setup and the remote control operation of all the optics made the process so much easier and pinpoint accurate. She's a big mamma jamma though so be prepared for the physical size. She's not as heavy as she looks though and installation went without a hitch with the mount I used.

One thing I did discover is to turn off the image processing in the Denon 7200WA and let the 675 do all the heavy lifting on the image processing. It's obviously much more robust in this area than the Denon. The images were noticely even better after making this simple change.

So for aanyone on the fence, get it. Indulge and treat yourself. You only get one lap around the track. You better run it with everything you have and "Never stop. Never settle.", like the famous beverage states.
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Installed my VPL-VW675ES last night and am thoroughly impressed with the performance. The picture is phenomenal. Shocking actually. It looks like i have a giant 120 inch 4K UHD tv now. I'm just debating whether to upgrade the screen or not as I can't see how the picture can get any better.

She was very easy and straightforward to setup and the remote control operation of all the optics made the process so much easier and pinpoint accurate. She's a big mamma jamma though so be prepared for the physical size. She's not as heavy as she looks though and installation went without a hitch with the mount I used.

One thing I did discover is to turn off the image processing in the Denon 7200WA and let the 675 do all the heavy lifting on the image processing. It's obviously much more robust in this area than the Denon. The images were noticely even better after making this simple change.

So for aanyone on the fence, get it. Indulge and treat yourself. You only get one lap around the track. You better run it with everything you have and "Never stop. Never settle.", like the famous beverage states.
Congrats Enjoy.

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Installed my VPL-VW675ES last night and am thoroughly impressed with the performance. The picture is phenomenal. Shocking actually. It looks like i have a giant 120 inch 4K UHD tv now. I'm just debating whether to upgrade the screen or not as I can't see how the picture can get any better.

She was very easy and straightforward to setup and the remote control operation of all the optics made the process so much easier and pinpoint accurate. She's a big mamma jamma though so be prepared for the physical size. She's not as heavy as she looks though and installation went without a hitch with the mount I used.

One thing I did discover is to turn off the image processing in the Denon 7200WA and let the 675 do all the heavy lifting on the image processing. It's obviously much more robust in this area than the Denon. The images were noticely even better after making this simple change.

So for aanyone on the fence, get it. Indulge and treat yourself. You only get one lap around the track. You better run it with everything you have and "Never stop. Never settle.", like the famous beverage states.

What projector did you have previously ?

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Optoma HD37. Perfect timing also because even though I tweaked it to get a very good 1080p picture, the dust blob issue persisted. I had sent it back once to Optoma and the dust blobs were removed but apparently the cause was not resolved. Another blob about 10 inches just appeared out of nowhere about two weeks ago. Dust blobs have appeared on two HD37s and both were sent in for repair. I just dealt with the blobs because I was just waiting for the right time and model to make my move to a 4K HDR projector.

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Optoma HD37. Perfect timing also because even though I tweaked it to get a very good 1080p picture, the dust blob issue persisted. I had sent it back once to Optoma and the dust blobs were removed but apparently the cause was not resolved. Another blob about 10 inches just appeared out of nowhere about two weeks ago. Dust blobs have appeared on two HD37s and both were sent in for repair. I just dealt with the blobs because I was just waiting for the right time and model to make my move to a 4K HDR projector.
Well that partly explains why you are over the moon happy I know someone who did exactly the same and is jumping for joy

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I received my 675 two weeks ago tomorrow and I am still floored by how beautiful it is. My dealer has not calibrated it yet, right now I'm just using an out of the box mode. Is it worth having an ISF tech come out and calibrate it?

Right now, I'm using the Samsung 8500 and DTV through a McIntosh MX122 for source until new Oppo comes out, then the Samsung is being routed to the living room and the OLED.

My wife, 2 year old son, and I have spent pretty much every night in the theater with the 675 and 125 inch Stewart StudioTek 100 instead of living room and 65 inch OLED!
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I wondered why someone didn't start a separate VW675/550 thread should have been done. I had the VW600 myself and was considering the 665 in the spring but picked up the JVC RS600 instead . The 675ES is still on my radar but I'm not sure the move at this point would be beneficial . There are certainly pros and cons, though in reality I think they are weak.


Did you notice any significant difference between the 600 and 675? My 600 was not cutting the mustard for 3D on my 134" 2.35:1 curved screen and that was with a 1.8 gain screen anamorphic lens and shortest throw possible. The JVC RS600 does a better job on the brightness front and the 3D is incredible. I would hope the VW675ES would be about the same amount of light output for 3D, if only the same as the VW600 I would not want to switch.

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Since you have gone from the 600ES to the RS600, have you noticed a significant improvement in contrast/black level/shadow detail or just a marginal to a bit better improvement in low APL scenes? Also, does the RS higher brightness make much difference in 2D viewing?
I want to go 4K from my VW95, 120x51 scope 1.1 screen, and am on the fence to wait a year for the RS600 successor ( true 4K, I can't imagine another rehash of eshift on 2017 reference pj) with its better blacks/brightness or jump in now to 675ES and not punish myself conceding less blacks/contrast for not waiting.
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Since you have gone from the 600ES to the RS600, have you noticed a significant improvement in contrast/black level/shadow detail or just a marginal to a bit better improvement in low APL scenes? Also, does the RS higher brightness make much difference in 2D viewing?
I want to go 4K from my VW95, 120x51 scope 1.1 screen, and am on the fence to wait a year for the RS600 successor ( true 4K, I can't imagine another rehash of eshift on 2017 reference pj) with its better blacks/brightness or jump in now to 675ES and not punish myself conceding less blacks/contrast for not waiting.


I've just read several posts in the 665 thread regarding my question and I see there are observed notable differences but it appears that albeit notable they are there are other facets of the display that conceding those notable differences are made up in different ways depending more on personal choice than simply better or worse.
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Since you have gone from the 600ES to the RS600, have you noticed a significant improvement in contrast/black level/shadow detail or just a marginal to a bit better improvement in low APL scenes? Also, does the RS higher brightness make much difference in 2D viewing?
I want to go 4K from my VW95, 120x51 scope 1.1 screen, and am on the fence to wait a year for the RS600 successor ( true 4K, I can't imagine another rehash of eshift on 2017 reference pj) with its better blacks/brightness or jump in now to 675ES and not punish myself conceding less blacks/contrast for not waiting.
I know your question was pointed to roxiedog13 but thought i would give my opinion on the 675 because i used to own the VW85 and later also the 500ES & 1100ES and currently i have a 675 on order. The jump from VW85 to 500ES was quite significant, sharper, better blacks & contrast but above all much brighter. The jump to 1100 wasn't`t that big but the 1100 was sharper allover the image compared to the 500 and also had noticeably better cr.
Just recently i watched a demo of the 675 and the thing that struck me was how similar the 675 & 1100 were in terms of contrast & sharpness. I actually think the 675 looked better from my memory and that`s pretty impressive given the price gap between these two models. Of course, the 675 also have other advantages over the 1100 and 500/600.

During this demo, i also had the opportunity to see the RS600 & LS10000 and to my eyes, the 675 had the best image hands down. Although not the same cr as the RS600 but the image looked so much more natural with better motion and tranquility. So if you`re a big fan of blacks, the RS600 is the better choice no doubt.
Btw, the LS10000 also looked really good.

Either way, going from a VW95 to a 675 or a RS600 will be a BIG step up.
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Since you have gone from the 600ES to the RS600, have you noticed a significant improvement in contrast/black level/shadow detail or just a marginal to a bit better improvement in low APL scenes? Also, does the RS higher brightness make much difference in 2D viewing?
I want to go 4K from my VW95, 120x51 scope 1.1 screen, and am on the fence to wait a year for the RS600 successor ( true 4K, I can't imagine another rehash of eshift on 2017 reference pj) with its better blacks/brightness or jump in now to 675ES and not punish myself conceding less blacks/contrast for not waiting.
The RS600 has better blacks and brightness over the VW600 I had, going from the VW95 will be even one more level . The anamorphic lens I use is 1.33 X , much better suited to the chip on the new JVC ,so the brightness improves another 5-10%. For a Sony with 4096 X 2160 panel the 1.25 anamorphic lens is the better one. One thing I didn't expect was the amazing 3D, everything else was pretty much what I had expected from articles I read . I have watched almost every movie I own 3D over and over again just because it is that much better. It's a combination of better contrast and improved brightness I suppose, all I know it is the best 3D I have ever experienced .

You seem to have a dislike for e-shift, I assume you have viewed both e-shift and 4K to have formed this opinion . I have my own personal opinion of 4K vs e-shift that I'll share via PM but not on a open forum . I'm sick of all the backlash that happens when my comments do no align with what other members believe .

Looking at the option of VW675 vs RS600 you cannot go wrong . If you are dead set on 4K the 675 is the only option obviously , you can game on it and it does have DI for 4K. The RS600 has advantages of a faster board at 18Gbps and hits P3 100%, the Sony about 87% of P3. The JVC better native, the Sony better ANSI . Which one delivers a better picture is somewhat subjective and only you can determine that one , always best to demo with a disc you know well.

I almost bought the VW675 myself actually but I could not get rid of the JVC RS600, my only offers were much lower than I was willing to let it go for. Funny enough I sold my VW600 almost immediately for a value much higher that I was being offered for the JVC. I'm at a point now where I might as well hang in there and see what is on the horizon for next year in 4K. If JVC can pop a 4K chip in a RS600 type model I would probably go that route over the 675. On the other hand if Sony comes to the table with some better specs and a better lamp it would be on the radar too.

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I know your question was pointed to roxiedog13 but thought i would give my opinion on the 675 because i used to own the VW85 and later also the 500ES & 1100ES and currently i have a 675 on order. The jump from VW85 to 500ES was quite significant, sharper, better blacks & contrast but above all much brighter. The jump to 1100 wasn't`t that big but the 1100 was sharper allover the image compared to the 500 and also had noticeably better cr.
Just recently i watched a demo of the 675 and the thing that struck me was how similar the 675 & 1100 were in terms of contrast & sharpness. I actually think the 675 looked better from my memory and that`s pretty impressive given the price gap between these two models. Of course, the 675 also have other advantages over the 1100 and 500/600.

During this demo, i also had the opportunity to see the RS600 & LS10000 and to my eyes, the 675 had the best image hands down. Although not the same cr as the RS600 but the image looked so much more natural with better motion and tranquility. So if you`re a big fan of blacks, the RS600 is the better choice no doubt.
Btw, the LS10000 also looked really good.

Either way, going from a VW95 to a 675 or a RS600 will be a BIG step up.
quietly mentioning out of all those 3 I "downgraded" to the LS for many a reason
We have done a public e-shift vs 4K its open to public have a look it's very popular.
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The RS600 has better blacks and brightness over the VW600 I had, going from the VW95 will be even one more level . The anamorphic lens I use is 1.33 X , much better suited to the chip on the new JVC ,so the brightness improves another 5-10%. For a Sony with 4096 X 2160 panel the 1.25 anamorphic lens is the better one. One thing I didn't expect was the amazing 3D, everything else was pretty much what I had expected from articles I read . I have watched almost every movie I own 3D over and over again just because it is that much better. It's a combination of better contrast and improved brightness I suppose, all I know it is the best 3D I have ever experienced .

You seem to have a dislike for e-shift, I assume you have viewed both e-shift and 4K to have formed this opinion . I have my own personal opinion of 4K vs e-shift that I'll share via PM but not on a open forum . I'm sick of all the backlash that happens when my comments do no align with what other members believe .

Looking at the option of VW675 vs RS600 you cannot go wrong . If you are dead set on 4K the 675 is the only option obviously , you can game on it and it does have DI for 4K. The RS600 has advantages of a faster board at 18Gbps and hits P3 100%, the Sony about 87% of P3. The JVC better native, the Sony better ANSI . Which one delivers a better picture is somewhat subjective and only you can determine that one , always best to demo with a disc you know well.

I almost bought the VW675 myself actually but I could not get rid of the JVC RS600, my only offers were much lower than I was willing to let it go for. Funny enough I sold my VW600 almost immediately for a value much higher that I was being offered for the JVC. I'm at a point now where I might as well hang in there and see what is on the horizon for next year in 4K. If JVC can pop a 4K chip in a RS600 type model I would probably go that route over the 675. On the other hand if Sony comes to the table with some better specs and a better lamp it would be on the radar too.

Thank you for your observations, it sums up nicely the differences. The comment from BakeApples that motion is better on the Sony has given me pause since I am sensitive and annoyed by motion blur on side to side pans of detail, probably more than eshift vs 4K. Even if JVC releases a true 4K with its full UHD spec sheet and best blacks, noticeably worse motion blur compared to Sony would put far behind the Sony for me. I do need to view a RS500/600 to see how it does with motion before I can make any further upgrade decisions.
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Thank you for your observations, it sums up nicely the differences. The comment from BakeApples that motion is better on the Sony has given me pause since I am sensitive and annoyed by motion blur on side to side pans of detail, probably more than eshift vs 4K. Even if JVC releases a true 4K with its full UHD spec sheet and best blacks, noticeably worse motion blur compared to Sony would put far behind the Sony for me. I do need to view a RS500/600 to see how it does with motion before I can make any further upgrade decisions.
Motion was one of the main reasons why I don't own a JVC, however as strange as it is it used give me a headache but when we compared them side by side (without interpolation) they looked identical. Go figure.

FI on the JVC is definitely a no go for me as I am extra sensitive. The only one I can watch without FI is the LS, even the Sony bothered me sometimes.
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