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Delivering incredible color accuracy and stunning, razor-sharp images, the ViewSonic® LS820 laser projector is the ideal ultra-short throw projector for the high-end home theater. With a 0.23 ultra-short throw ratio, this projector can be placed on your home entertainment stand, just inches away from a wall or screen, and project an immersive 100” image. And with stunning 1080p resolution and Rec. 709 color accuracy, this projector delivers an amazing cinema-like experience. Utilizing the latest laser light technology, the LS820 is virtually maintenance-free, allowing you to enjoy long hours of movies or extensive gaming sessions. The LS820 also features a hidden PortAll® compartment which accommodates additional accessories such as a wireless streaming device, or PC stick. Powered by SuperColor™ technology for true-to-life images, and SonicExpert® technology for incredibly clear sound, the LS820 delivers an immersive audiovisual performance for any home theater.

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Got the Projector delivered and setup last night. I am using the Viewsonic 100" Brilliant Color Panel.

First impressions

Its bright, its sharp, in my living room, and setup was trivial. I have had numerous projectors in apartments and a game room, all not fully light controlled. I also had a ALR screen (Elite CineGrey 5D). The Benq 1080st was decent, lots of hot spotting, and poor off axis. The Sony 55es, surprisingly usable on high lamp, but not usable enough for gaming during the day or without moderate light control.

Now, the LS820 is like having a giant TV hanging in the living room. Full lights on and blinds up 100% usable.

Colors are bright and pop (the Sony was a softer image).

Black levels with high ambient light are decent, at least for me, and better than any other projector I have had.

Black levels with 0 ambient light are better than the Benq 1080st but noticeably worse than the Sony 55es. However I only tested 1 Bluray which I have never seen, so im not sure if the source material was dark.

I will be continually posting more impressions of this projector.

Update 3/13/17

Finally getting a proper setup together. Did some rough calibration with THX app and WOW bluray. Not too much changed. Notched up the brightness 2 steps and dialed down the blues.

There hasn't been any more RBE. I think the source material is the major culprit.

Contrast is still great. Haven't found it a problem. The trade off of being able to enjoy the projector at anytime under any conditions, instead of having the inkiest blacks is worth it to me.

One issue that is presenting a puzzling problem is how to place the center channel.
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Looks great.

Any RBE?
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Finally a real world review using the proper screen. I may have to look past the input lag on this model and just go for it. It looks good.

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What is the input lag?
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Nice review.

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Looks great.

Any RBE?
The only time I noticed was when watching 2.35:1 content with subtitles on. While moving or blinking the black on white text would occasionally have RBE. I was trying to look for it though. Wife could not see it until I told her to blink alot and shake her head while reading
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What is the input lag?
I dont have a way to measure it, but Projector Reviews said it was 50ms. I played Witcher 3 and Hitman (both on PC) for about 7 hours yesterday and lag was never an issue.
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Great review ,

This was on my short list a while back ,

I know that ViewSonic only offer a 100in screen however have you tried to project a larger image?, does it wash out at a certain size? , 100in is just to small for the theater room I'm planning.
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Great review ,

This was on my short list a while back ,

I know that ViewSonic only offer a 100in screen however have you tried to project a larger image?, does it wash out at a certain size? , 100in is just to small for the theater room I'm planning.
They have a 120" screen also:
http://www.viewsonic.com/us/bcp120.html
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An interesting photo of how much of a difference the screen makes in ambient llght versus a white wall:

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Great review ,

This was on my short list a while back ,

I know that ViewSonic only offer a 100in screen however have you tried to project a larger image?, does it wash out at a certain size? , 100in is just to small for the theater room I'm planning.
I did project on a textured wall to 120" and it seemed fine for being on a texted wall with several wall plugs in the way. I think I read somewhere that it can do 144". The the brilliant color panel screen makes a huge difference. I wouldn't recommend the projector without using some sort of UST screen.
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An interesting photo of how much of a difference the screen makes in ambient llght versus a white wall:

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The the brilliant color panel screen makes a huge difference. I wouldn't recommend the projector without using some sort of UST screen.
That's exactly why I am really disappointed whenever I see a user observation or, worse, a professional review of a UST done without the screen. IMO, it's really pointless. I have read reviews, seen videos where the user was unhappy with a UST's performance projecting onto a wall. The difference in color and contrast with and without a screen is immediately noticeable even in photos.

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Here is a photo before hanging the screen.
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Here is a side shot. The kitchen is 15' away with 5 can lights on.
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Mades some updates to the initial review.
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One issue that is presenting a puzzling problem is how to place the center channel.
Could you wall mount it underneath the screen or would that affect projection?
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Could you wall mount it underneath the screen or would that affect projection?
If my center was about an in less in height and depth it could mount. (It measures 23-3/4"W x 7-3/8"H x 9-11/16"D). Here is a snapshot from the screen install video.
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I really like your setup.

I was considering getting an 85 in LCD panel but this would be a good option for less money, just not 4K which I am not particularly concerned about.

Do you have a receiver in the cabinet underneath the projector? (I can't tell if that is a big sub to the left of one of the speakers or an electronics cabinet). Who is the manufacturer of the stand?

Did you look at any other UST screens?

How noisy is it and does it get very hot?

In terms of the center channel speaker, I guess the projector could be wall mounted above the screen to allow optimal placement of the center channel speaker but this would be more work and a bit of an eyesore. Maybe it could be disguised in a shelf or something but airflow may be an issue. I don't know if the viewsonic screen is acoustically transparent or not but maybe a flush mounted center would be possible behind the screen.
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I really like your setup.

I was considering getting an 85 in LCD panel but this would be a good option for less money, just not 4K which I am not particularly concerned about.

Do you have a receiver in the cabinet underneath the projector? (I can't tell if that is a big sub to the left of one of the speakers or an electronics cabinet). Who is the manufacturer of the stand?

Did you look at any other UST screens?

How noisy is it and does it get very hot?

In terms of the center channel speaker, I guess the projector could be wall mounted above the screen to allow optimal placement of the center channel speaker but this would be more work and a bit of an eyesore. Maybe it could be disguised in a shelf or something but airflow may be an issue. I don't know if the viewsonic screen is acoustically transparent or not but maybe a flush mounted center would be possible behind the screen.

The receiver and other equipment are behind the screen which just happened to be a closet, I just passed the hdmi and speaker cables through the wall.

I had the cabinet made which matches the kitchen cabinets ( the living room and kitchen are one large room). It measures 90"W x 25" D x 18" H. I almost built one myself using these. Ikea Sektion

I tried to look for other screens but the only other I could find was the Screen Innovations which was over my budget. The type of screen is Fresnel Lens screen. Here is some more info , DNP Fresnel Lens Technology.

Projector is not noisy, you can here that its on but never over speakers. When watching movies on silent scenes I do not notice it from 13' away. It does not get hot, even after leaving it on for ~12 hours.

Im learning to live with the center channel. Its placement does not mess up the sound stage too much. Eventually I may build a riser and put the projector on top of the center channel and raise the screen.
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Looking at the 830. This is a great real world review. And one of the few that I've seen of an ust. I'll be goin 150"ish. Going with this because of the laser. No more changing bulbs every year, Sweet!
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Looking at the 830. This is a great real world review. And one of the few that I've seen of an ust. I'll be goin 150"ish. Going with this because of the laser. No more changing bulbs every year, Sweet!
I believe the 830 uses a different color wheel. The 820 has a RGBRGB wheel with Rec. 709 calibration. From my understanding the 810 and 830 are more for business use than home theater.
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I believe the 830 uses a different color wheel. The 820 has a RGBRGB wheel with Rec. 709 calibration. From my understanding the 810 and 830 are more for business use than home theater.
Glad you mentioned that. When I was looking thru the manual I couldn't see any difference in the two. Was wondering if they changed something to get the extra brightness. Guess I'll be going with the 820 instead. Thanks again.
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Can you add some more commentary/pictures on the LS820 black levels. I was just told by ViewSonic that the PX800HD will not be shipping again unit mid July. I have been waffling between the LS and PX for months, and the only reason I went PX is because I do watch in a dark room theater setting, and the black level production has me a bit concerned.
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Can you add some more commentary/pictures on the LS820 black levels. I was just told by ViewSonic that the PX800HD will not be shipping again unit mid July. I have been waffling between the LS and PX for months, and the only reason I went PX is because I do watch in a dark room theater setting, and the black level production has me a bit concerned.
The LS820 needs a UST screen for the blacks to be acceptable. I projected directly on the wall and it was abysmal. So keep that in mind while pricing everything out. If your setting up something for dark room watching I think your money will be spent on a different projector and screen. I got this setup specifically for living room use with high ambient light. If I still has a theater or a dark room I would have kept the Sony 55es.

With all that said the blacks are really good. During the evening with the lights all off I'm hard pressed to differentiate the letter boxing on movies from my wall. (But I believe this is mostly due to the screen)

Added some more dark photos. Let me know if you want something specific so you can reference it.

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Thanks for the follow-up. I have already purchased and set-up the BCP120. After running some light tests with this screen, my biggest fear with the PX800HD is it's ability to overcome the low gain. From my tests of the screen so.far it takes a pretty bright light to make white look like white and not a light grey.

Thanks for the extra pictures, a question I still have about the 820. I've been using projectors now for 15 or so years ( InFocus LP340, 4805, and Optoma HD80). And dirty light control and "Halo" effect used to be a problem. Even when they could kill halo with Iris's it was still washing out black level (inkyness). These pictures seem to have some of this. The test I used to run for this was to see if I could cast shadows in the black areas within the field of view. In a completely dark room with a completely dark scene, could I still see shadow puppets.....

If so is there a setting where this would go away. Most likely on the low light setting.

I appreciate all your feedback on your experience. Reviews on these ViewSonic UST projectors is extremely scarce, and in combination with the BCP screen is, well, yours is the only review I could find.......

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Very glad I found this discussion. I have been pondering around the ViewSonic LS820 for quite some time now.

And see what you mean by the screen makes all the difference. I see that you had mentioned you got a DNP screen. Can you be specific as to what model, size, and possibly price?
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Very glad I found this discussion. I have been pondering around the ViewSonic LS820 for quite some time now.

And see what you mean by the screen makes all the difference. I see that you had mentioned you got a DNP screen. Can you be specific as to what model, size, and possibly price?
I don't have the DNP screen. I have the ViewSonic BCP100 screen. I was just referencing the DNP screen. I imagine its fairly expensive though.
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