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Epson 5040UB vs JVCRS500

What projector would be better for strictly sports viewing? Dark room, but occasionally have some light. 126" 1.3 gain fixed screen. 12 feet away.

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What projector would be better for strictly sports viewing? Dark room, but occasionally have some light. 126" 1.3 gain fixed screen. 12 feet away.

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If you are not running frame interpolation, then the RS500 would be the better projector. But if all you are doing is sports, you really are using very little of the added advantage of the JVC's much higher native contrast, since sports are bright content. So for the money, I would go with the 5040.

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What projector would be better for strictly sports viewing? Dark room, but occasionally have some light. 126" 1.3 gain fixed screen. 12 feet away.

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12 ft away is at the limit of the max zoom for both projectors, consider using a smaller screen or moving the projector a foot further from the screen.
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if you're only watching sports, as in 100% of the time, I don't think either projector is the best choice. Go with a bright, decent quality DLP projector. It will offer the kind of image quality sports require; excellent motion performance, high ANSI contrast and plenty of brightness. LCD-variant projectors like the two you're asking about offer less performance in these areas compared to a DLP projector. Something like a Vivitek H5095 or even their LED variant, the H9090, with the short throw lens option would be excellent choices in my opinion.
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Go with a bright, decent quality DLP projector. It will offer the kind of image quality sports require; excellent motion performance, high ANSI contrast and plenty of brightness.
Agreed. My BenQ HT2050 is awesome for sports. You won't care about the poor black levels of DLP, and you also won't see rainbows, as those are only a problem for white objects against a dark background.
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Another vote for what's suggested above. Personally I can't go with DLP since RBE gives me headaches so I'd go with the 5040. The JVC is definitely overkill for sports especially since you are likely to have some lights on. And movies would look decent on the Epson if you ever decide to mix them in.
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if you're only watching sports, as in 100% of the time, I don't think either projector is the best choice. Go with a bright, decent quality DLP projector. It will offer the kind of image quality sports require; excellent motion performance, high ANSI contrast and plenty of brightness. LCD-variant projectors like the two you're asking about offer less performance in these areas compared to a DLP projector. Something like a Vivitek H5095 or even their LED variant, the H9090, with the short throw lens option would be excellent choices in my opinion.
What about a Runco LS-5?

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I went from an Epson 5020 to a Benq W1070 because the motion on the Epson was terrible with sports.

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What about a Runco LS-5?

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I see you have a 12 foot throw distance. The LS-5 won't work at your screensize with that thrown even with the short throw lens option.
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I see you have a 12 foot throw distance. The LS-5 won't work at your screensize with that thrown even with the short throw lens option.
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I went from an Epson 5020 to a Benq W1070 because the motion on the Epson was terrible with sports.
I had the W1070 for a short period of time and didn't think the picture was all that great. Any other DLP recommendations?

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Sorry that's the only DLP projector that I've used.

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I think the Epson 5040 is easily the best option for the money out there right now. You can get amazing HDR if you ever want that, it's brighter than the RS500 and the sports I've watched on it so far in Natural Mode were very nice too.
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I think the Epson 5040 is easily the best option for the money out there right now. You can get amazing HDR if you ever want that, it's brighter than the RS500 and the sports I've watched on it so far in Natural Mode were very nice too.
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I see you have a 12 foot throw distance. The LS-5 won't work at your screensize with that thrown even with the short throw lens option.
What about an LS-3? My room is 22 feet long. I can move it back if need be.

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What about an LS-3? My room is 22 feet long. I can move it back if need be.
these are still excellent projectors today. I use it for gaming / TV along side of my JVC which is used primarily for movies.

you can usually pick these up for ~1500 on ebay and the OEM lamps are still available for ~$80 so it's cheap to run these for extended periods of time.

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these are still excellent projectors today. I use it for gaming / TV along side of my JVC which is used primarily for movies.

you can usually pick these up for ~1500 on ebay and the OEM lamps are still available for ~$80 so it's cheap to run these for extended periods of time.

Zombie, would you recommend any other DLP besides a Runco LS-3 for 100% sports viewing that is under $2,000?

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What about an LS-3? My room is 22 feet long. I can move it back if need be.
If you have 22 feet, the either an LS-3 or LS-5 will work. The LS-5 is a better projector.
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What about an LS-3? My room is 22 feet long. I can move it back if need be.
If you've got the room to move it, go with the LS5, it's a great machine, one of the best single chip DLPs ever made, even to this day. I've still got my Planar 8150 (became the LS5 when Planar bought Runco and rolled the whole HT line under the Runco banner).

There's a number of good DLPs out there, the Sharp Z30000, Runcos, DPIs, Barcos. The higher end Viviteks are quite good too. The problem is, "new" they're generally still quite expensive if you can find them, so your best bet is used.

Keep an eye out for some of the LED ones from Runco, DPI, Vivitek too. For bright content, they'll keep up with anything out there today.
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If you've got the room to move it, go with the LS5, it's a great machine, one of the best single chip DLPs ever made, even to this day. I've still got my Planar 8150 (became the LS5 when Planar bought Runco and rolled the whole HT line under the Runco banner).

There's a number of good DLPs out there, the Sharp Z30000, Runcos, DPIs, Barcos. The higher end Viviteks are quite good too. The problem is, "new" they're generally still quite expensive if you can find them, so your best bet is used.

Keep an eye out for some of the LED ones from Runco, DPI, Vivitek too. For bright content, they'll keep up with anything out there today.
What about the Planar 8150 with the darkchip4?

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What about the Planar 8150 with the darkchip4?
Those only exist in myth and legend. Unless you're Seegs or Zombie and made your own. There wasn't ever a Planar with the DC4 DMD. That said the Planar 8150 is every bit as good as the LS5, it's just a different name sold under a different brand/distribution channel.
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What about the Planar 8150 with the darkchip4?
The Planar 8150 is a DC3 projector. There's only 2-3 custom 8150's out there with the DC4, I have one of them. it's not a major difference though and still worth pursuing.

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The Planar 8150 is a DC3 projector. There's only 2-3 custom 8150's out there with the DC4, I have one of them. it's not a major difference though and still worth pursuing.

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If I can get a Planar 8150 and a Epson 5040UB for the same price, sports only, what would you choose?

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If I can get a Planar 8150 and a Epson 5040UB for the same price, sports only, what would you choose?
I would pick the DLP. The Epson would be brighter if you needed the extra light for higher ambient light viewing but from your description of darker room with some ambient light on the 126" with some gain it will be fine.

I prefer the .95 DLP pixel structure vs. the wide gap on the Epson LCD's which I find distracting.

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[quote=zombie10k;52767889]I would pick the DLP. The Epson would be brighter if you needed the extra light for higher ambient light viewing but from your description of darker room with some ambient light on the 126" with some gain it will be fine.

I prefer the .95 DLP pixel structure vs. the wide gap on the Epson LCD's which I find distracting.


Thanks for the help and sorry for a million questions, but what about something like a Digital Projection E-Vision 4500 vs the Planar?

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Thanks for the help and sorry for a million questions, but what about something like a Digital Projection E-Vision 4500 vs the Planar?
that is a very bright projector designed for high ambient light or large screens. In low lamp you may have to run an ND filter to block some of the light. it's a .65 vs. 95 DLP and has less contrast than the Runco which is more designed for a HT application with controlled light.

that ebay price is good but not sure if that projector makes sense for your room.
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that is a very bright projector designed for high ambient light or large screens. In low lamp you may have to run an ND filter to block some of the light. it's a .65 vs. 95 DLP and has less contrast than the Runco which is more designed for a HT application with controlled light.

that ebay price is good but not sure if that projector makes sense for your room.
Thanks. Enough questions. I'm either going for a Planar 8150 or Runco LS-5 since they are the same.
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Even almost 10 years later the PD8150 puts out a competitive image when you factor in it's price on the used market and what you can find new +/- $1000.
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For 100% sports, I would say DLP, but with that said, I bet once you get the projector, you will do more than just sports watching on it. Big screen movies in your home can be really special.

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For 100% sports, I would say DLP, but with that said, I bet once you get the projector, you will do more than just sports watching on it. Big screen movies in your home can be really special.
I have my JVC RS500 for that

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