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Does the ISF have any plans to help establish a standard approach to HDR tone mapping on domestic projection systems?

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I only have a distance of about 9' from front wall to where I can mount a projector. Most projectors I read about require roughly 12' to get a large enough (~100") screen size but that isn't possible for me. Also, where the projector would mount happens to be directly above the seating position (couch) so will the fan noise be a distraction?

What if any projectors would be good alternatives for my situation around the $1000-$1500 range? TV's have come a long way with picture and price so that's what I'm toying with.

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I am wanting to build a home theater with a projector when I purchase my next house (1 - 2 years out). Is there a difference in preference for screens according to the brightness of the room that the screen will be used in? Also, how well do the Faux-K projectors work vs true 4K and vs HD projectors? Last, any idea when we will see laser based projectors in the home market?

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What is the long-term viability of projectors despite the advances in size and quality in other display technologies? is this something a relative newbie wants to get into?
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Does using the lens shift feature degrade the picture at all?
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In general, is it better to go with a 16:9 screen and use horizontal masking or a 2:35 screen and use vertical masking?

For my purposes it would be a larger screen (150" + diagonal) and I'm torn. For a 2:35 when watching regular 16:9 content, of course the lens would have to be adjusted and masking utilized whereas with a 16:9 screen, only masking would come into play for a scope movie. For what it's worth, our theater viewing is probably about 50/50 scope movies versus 16:9 TV/sports/movies.
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Are there any current or upcoming projectors that feature all of the following:
  • Excellent motion handling
  • Non-problematic 3D rendering
  • True 4K with HDR and 18Gbps input
  • Cost less than $5000
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I am currently using a 1080p projector with auto lens memory (Panasonic AE8000). I am considering moving up to a JVC DLA-X550R projector that accepts 4k signals, but I realize is not true 4k. Am I better off waiting for a true 4k projector to come down in price or make the jump now?

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How is the performance of modern projectors for gaming? Is input lag an issue for digital projectors?

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I've always wondered, why do DLPs not have near perfect black level? If you flip the mirror into the off position, shouldn't the pixel be true black similar to turning off a pixel in an OLED? Also what's being done differently in Dolby Cinema's that give them such great black levels and is/will that same tech be reaching the consumer realm sometime?

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Will the new projectors include 3D? If not, this is a mistake.
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There are lots of projectors sold every year, but the vast majority are for commercial and educational applications. If I look at typically available projectors for home theater, despite sharing some of the same components with commercial ones, the 1080p projectors are often more expensive than quality 4K TVs. And the 4K projectors are typically priced for the 1% crowd. Are we ever going to see the price point of the home theater projector market challenge the price/performance of regular flat screens or will home theater projectors continue to be a strict niche for 1%ers and home theater hobbyists?
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What's the future of wireless HDMI, now that there is a push to 4K/HDR/WCG for home projectors?

I think for many people, getting a signal to the projector is a big problem if they want a nice clean setup (simply tacking up a HDMI cable along a wall/ceiling doesn't win too many WAF points!) and now these new 4K signals will often require a new cable to be installed.

I didn't go the HDMI cable route at all and use a wireless HDMI solution (DVDO Air specifically), but this claims to be good up to 1080P only. What to do if I want to upgrade to a 4K projector?

I see some companies (J-Tech Digital for example) claiming higher bandwidth (Ultra HD 4K) systems, but these also seem to be more industrial rather than residential systems. Seems like a golden opportunity for someone to fill this market, but my fear is that this market is just too small. Would be interested to hear your opinion on this.
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I'm new to the whole projector game and one problem I have is that in the room I currently use for home theater if I put in a 120 inch screen it will block the front speakers. Moving the speakers is not possible so how much of a compromise will it make to the sound? How much will an AT screen help and how much attenuation could be compensated for with volume and or EQ?
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Lot's of good questions here. I hope projectors keep affordably innovating in the era of WCG and HDR because IMO there's nothing like having a large display that only a projector can provide affordably today. In my home the only HD displays are a 24" 1080 monitor and my venerable, several times repaired Epson 6500UB projecting a 120" image.

To that end what are the projections (pun intended) for more affordable laser based projectors to hit the market? Is any progress being made or expected that will significantly reduce the cost so we can leave bulbs in the rear view mirror?
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Why is it that greens are so poorly represented in the WCG spec? Reds and blues are improved, why do greens lag so far behind?

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Why is it that greens are so poorly represented in the WCG spec? Reds and blues are improved, why do greens lag so far behind?
Huh?


Green is where most of the expanded gamut comes from.
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Why do most people it seems prefer a brighter image over one with a lower black floor? I used to be in the latter camp now I am leaning towards sacrificing black levels for a much brighter picture.

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Will the new projectors include 3D? If not, this is a mistake.
And will they be active or passive? If passive will viewing distances be sensitive to crosstalk ? In theaters passive 3d allows you to sit any disatnce from the screen, yet LG Tv's with passive 3d require being at least a certain distance from the screen in order for the 3D images to converge properly.
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There are lots of projectors sold every year, but the vast majority are for commercial and educational applications. If I look at typically available projectors for home theater, despite sharing some of the same components with commercial ones, the 1080p projectors are often more expensive than quality 4K TVs. And the 4K projectors are typically priced for the 1% crowd. Are we ever going to see the price point of the home theater projector market challenge the price/performance of regular flat screens or will home theater projectors continue to be a strict niche for 1%ers and home theater hobbyists?
No 3D, but this might be what your'e looking for:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/optoma-u...?skuId=5912304
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There are lots of projectors sold every year, but the vast majority are for commercial and educational applications. If I look at typically available projectors for home theater, despite sharing some of the same components with commercial ones, the 1080p projectors are often more expensive than quality 4K TVs. And the 4K projectors are typically priced for the 1% crowd. Are we ever going to see the price point of the home theater projector market challenge the price/performance of regular flat screens or will home theater projectors continue to be a strict niche for 1%ers and home theater hobbyists?
No 3D, but this might be what your'e looking for:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/optoma-u...?skuId=5912304
I must've missed this model. So the next question is that can a model like this which looks good on paper actually compete with more expensive technologies? Is HDR on something like this really distinctive or is it more like the 2016 Visio M-series TVs from last year...lots of check box features with mediocre performance (but a great price for a 4k set).
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I must've missed this model. So the next question is that can a model like this which looks good on paper actually compete with more expensive technologies?
You've got some reading to do, short answer, it's not Native 4K and the contrast is abysmal, so no, it can't.
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Rear Projection

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REAR PROJECTION

I have the space for it, even with a standard lens. 140" - 170" Screen.

Priorities
1. Contrast Ratio (HDR)
2. Sharpness
3. Wide Viewing angle
4. Low to moderate controllable ambient light conditions (no direct bulb or sun reflection)

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Could we see a price drop in high quality laser projectors sometime soon?
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I'm an infrequent poster, here, but a serial projector buyer... so I have a little bit of experience, but it's at the lower end of the spectrum:

* ViewSonic PJ551D for $510, purchased early 2009 (100", 1024x768 native)
* Optoma HD26 for $660, purchased early 2016 (110", 1080p native)

So with that history in mind... what should I consider focusing on, when it's time for my next projector purchase? I'd obviously love to upgrade to 4K, but I don't see those coming down to my price range, anytime soon. So would it be better for me to set my sights on HDR projectors, laser projectors, or some other tech?

I guess what I'm really asking is: What are the most promising areas of development in home theater projectors, particularly as it relates to those of us who have to live with a slightly tighter budget (sub-$1K)?
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Is it possible for a laser projector to have reference level blacks?
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