Originally Posted by dude321
I am torn between these two machines. They are in the similar price range, JVC is little bit cheaper. Obviously Sony is real 4k, but reviews says for normal viewing there is little difference..
- True 4K
- Better motion handling?
- Less lag?
- Longer lamp life
- Deeper black/auto iris
- Better contrast?
- Lens memory
- Shorter throw distance
- 18GBps HDMI
Here is my situation:
- Light controlled media room
- 120 ~ 135 inch screen (Can only do 120 if I get sony)
- Viewing material will be mostly Netflix and 1080p bluerays, not planning getting lots of 4K disks soon.
My last projector is a sony hw55, am I expecting to see a big upgrade? Should I wait for the dust to settle?
Thanks for the input!
Btw, where can I find the demo in the Seattle area?
The Sony due to optics and chipset doesn't necessarily get all 4K up on the screen. It will still have a distinct resolution advantage vs. the JVC. In my own observations the resolution differences tend to diminish when you get to a normal seating distance.
The Sony has a clear advantage in motion handling. However you can't use this on 4K material. The JVC allows this. On 1080p the motion on the Sony will be better. Just native 24p with no enhancement either is going to be fine, although some do prefer the Sony on native motion (I haven't been able to see much difference).
Picture wise I find the JVC throws a better overall image. The Sony 4K units I've seen have all had an iris and the JVC was still clearly better in black floor and contrast. The 285 without an iris would be very clearly outclassed in this respect. The JVC is brighter, but depending on screen size and preference this may not be a deal breaker. The Sony's feature a gamma enhancement (as does JVC) that would allow it to make HDR pleasant despite the lumen deficit. Still more lumens is never a bad thing.
Lag wise the Sony has had a report of 10ms lag, but that seems to be erroneous. It has been measured around 30-35ms with 1080 material, Sony states 55ms with 4K. The JVC is about 35ms for either content.
I use the lens memory on my JVC all the time with my 2.35:1 screen so the feature is indispensable for me. If you don't have a need for that, the lack of it would not be a deal breaker.
I've seen a 55ES and 50ES and both your choices would be a big upgrade. For me the contrast and black floor of the JVC are far more important than the resolution differences I see. I'm not a fan of motion enhancement, so that's not a buying concern for me, but if it is for you the Sony is clearly better on 1080 material. Some feel the native handling on the Sony (no enhancement) is a big enough plus, but all the Epson, JVC, Sony and Panasonics seem to handle 24p native about the same to me. If you sit very close to the screen (<2x screen height to seating ratio) the resolution may be a bigger factor and the Sony could get the nod here.
For me the JVC just has a richer picture due it's contrast and black floor. As I said above the the resolution advantage of the Sony dwindled at a normal seating position so it wasn't a purchase point for me. And I simply wouldn't consider the 285 with it's lack of iris or lens memory. And that's why I have an RS520. In my opinion the Sony 285 is a more of a competitor picture and feature wise to the RS440 regardless of where Sony prices it.
Both are great projectors. If you're buying a projector long term you may want to put the 385 in the mix. The price jump is significant, but the iris would make a big difference in the picture quality. And if you want to do a scope screen at some point the lens memory would be a must have.