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post #181 of 2271 Old 06-03-2004, 10:59 AM
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Well, the Yahoo post certainly confirms what I had previously posted as "unconfirmed" - Thus I happily retract my previous "over-zealous" comments.

My apologies to Madpoet.
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The same release is linked above from a different site (Yahoo). If it is mistaken, then fine. But now we have 2 sources with the same press release saying $3999 MSRP. Our forum rules, btw, are generally based on U.S. MSRP since that is where they are located.

Edit- No need to apologize Lou. I still hope it is wrong.

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All three posts look like pretty much the same release. I think it is kind of sad that three sources post what is supposed to be a "Hitachi" press release and Hitachi does not have any mention on their sites!

It could also be sources merely posting copies (correct or not, verified or not). If the information is MSRP incorrect, this certainly says something of the reliability of these posting sources. I think when I see it on Projectorcentral.com I will believe it!
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A quick Google search shows street prices in the UK at less than half the supposed US $3,999 msrp.

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All three posts look like pretty much the same release. I think it is kind of sad that three sources post what is supposed to be a "Hitachi" press release and Hitachi does not have any mention on their sites!
Not surprising--- news sites post the latest stuff. Manufacturer websites are usually behind the times.

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The MSRP that Furious mentioned and the MSRP I was told by a Hitachi dealer for the PJ-TX100 is $3999 CDN in Canada which last time I checked, is equal to a $2936 USD MSRP. That newswire thing really doesn't make much sense from my CDN dealer communications.

Furious? Any feedback on your end?

This is getting weirder by the post. So that link shows an MSRP of $3999 USD. I wonder if the Canadian retailers have been quoting me with the USD MSRP. If that is true, then wow, thats priced way out there.

I believe that the Hitachi dealers in Canada are going to be informed about the Hitachi in such a way to compare the PJ-TX100 with the Sony HS-20, Sharp XV-Z200, Sanyo Z2 and the Panasonic AE500. Now, that doesn't tell me much about the expected MSRP.

Also, its weird that the 100 is in the UK before Japan. Japan expects them June 10th, as we know, and they speculate, basically guess that the street price could be roughly $2K USD or less.

And we wait.... :p
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The pricing makes sense if it is going to compete head-on with the Epson 500, but if, as seems more likely, it would be better aimed at the Z2/AE500, then there will be very few dealers who sell any in the US. My guess is that most savvy buyers will be contacting "over there" for these units. Especially since the Japanes MSRP is about $1500 less than the US MSRP...

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I notice the English language brochure doesn't picture the PJ-TX 100 ceiling mounted anywhere but only placed on a coffee-table, a side table and in a bookcase. I'm sure it can be ceiling mounted, of course, but wouldn't showing it ceiling mounted in a dedicated HT be more indicative of a higher priced unit and showing it placed on a coffee-table more for the casual user and, therefore, targeted to consumers less likely to make a serious HT $$$ investment? Could mean a big drop below the MSRP. Just a thought.

I see that the lamp may be getting a 6 month warranty. That's certainly helpful, but, as it is with the Z2, no mention of lamp life expectations in the specs worries me. Anyone know what to expect on lamp-life and replacement costs for this model?
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Still think that price is a mistake. For whatever it is worth, the lamp life in the Home-1 (TX-10) is 2000 hours and the replacement cost is $199 U.S.
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It makes absolutely no sense to be priced as stated in that PR. It is neither consistent with global pricing as reflected in Japan, Australia and Europe nor is it consistent with Hitachi U.S pricing for other AV products such as Plasmas.

I maintain it is incorrect. Either that or the guy heading up Hitachi Projection in the U.S is getting paid under the table by Sanyo and Panasonic.

Given the global nature of this forum i think this thread should be kept in the Under 3.5K forum as this reflects the pricing found everywhere BUT the US and probably the U.S also unless we have moved to the twilight zone :)

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To give you some input on price in Europe - in Estonia this unit MSRP is around $2200 (and we always have higher prices then for example Germany/UK).
Replacement lamp cost MSRP is around $250.
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My Dutch dealer's price for the TX100 is 1799 EUR or 2160 USD (1 EUR = 1.2 USD).
Replacement lamp like 250 EUR (300 USD).
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If you guys want it moved back, ask the mods here. I don't mind, but the fact is that the only MSRP for the US that we have to go on is in that press release.

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I'm cool with having it where-ever, but I do suspect it will be lower than $3500 USD MSRP.
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just wondering, what is the lamp life for the tx100? I dont think ive seen it stated anywhere.
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3,999 hours? :D

...but only in Canada!

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If I was to import one of these projectors from England to America (in order to save some money), would all of my movies play back with an English accent?

On second thought, I just remembered that the sound comes through the speakers --so, I should be all good! I guess I answered my own question. :)
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Along with what Shedrock was getting at, what are the potential cons to buying from the UK? I suppose dealer warranty would be one? If you purchased the extended Hitachi warranty could you not have it serviced stateside at an authorized repair center?

Just wondering, since the considerable cost savings have peaked my interest:)

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Japan expects them June 10th, as we know, and they speculate, basically guess that the street price could be roughly $2K USD or less.

And we wait.... :p
Pre-orders are already being taken for a street price of well under $2,000 U.S. It's being sold for a few hundred dollars over the Z2, but this price is likely to fall after it's been out a few months.
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I was talking with another of the buyers at work today after we saw the press release. We speculated that it may either be an extremely infalted SRP that has little relationship to the actual dealer cost/street price or indicactive of a pending price hike in Canada. The consensus was that if that USD figure is accurate we'll definitely see an adjustment to CDN SRP. We're up North, so our pricing has to go up North as well :p Hitachi is still waffling on the price a bit here with no firm commital to a specific dealer cost/SRP as of Wednesday other than the 3499-3999 they had tossed around. If they do match the US pricing that will give you a bit of an idea of how much margin they make on dealer sales...

The US retail puts the 100 in the HS20/LPX510/TW500 level of pricing. On paper you might slot the Hitachi in that group based on feature/specs. In either case I'm keeping a close eye on this one as I'd love to get ahold of a sample to play with. If it's anything like the LPX510 I'm sampling right now it could be a killer piece if the SRP stays down at the intial quotes which put it at a cool $1000 below the LPX510/HS20/TW500 before SRP adjustments.

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The MSRP that Furious mentioned and the MSRP I was told by a Hitachi dealer for the PJ-TX100 is $3999 CDN in Canada which last time I checked, is equal to a $2936 USD MSRP. That newswire thing really doesn't make much sense from my CDN dealer communications.

Furious? Any feedback on your end?

This is getting weirder by the post. So that link shows an MSRP of $3999 USD. I wonder if the Canadian retailers have been quoting me with the USD MSRP. If that is true, then wow, thats priced way out there.

I believe that the Hitachi dealers in Canada are going to be informed about the Hitachi in such a way to compare the PJ-TX100 with the Sony HS-20, Sharp XV-Z200, Sanyo Z2 and the Panasonic AE500. Now, that doesn't tell me much about the expected MSRP.

Also, its weird that the 100 is in the UK before Japan. Japan expects them June 10th, as we know, and they speculate, basically guess that the street price could be roughly $2K USD or less.

And we wait.... :p
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wow incredible strategy ! :o

the LPX510 and TW500 both have DCDi chip included ... and (i think) motorised zoom.
2 features the TX100 doesnt have.

the TX100 is more to compete with Z2 and PTAE500 and TW200 than LPX510 and TW500 ...

anyway i think the 510 and 500 are overpriced nowadays for LCD technology projectors ...

and I'm still stunned when watching a movie on the TX100 ;)
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Well, everybody, Canadians in particular, email Hitachi and ask that they price the Hitachi to compete with the Sanyo Z2. Try to get as many people to email them as possible. It couldn't hurt. Simply state that you're shopping for a projector and will buy the Sanyo Z2 unless Hitachi has an alternative to offer at a competetive price.
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I ventured over here from the under 3.5k forum asking about the TX100. I was hoping to find the TX100 at Z2 prices(as all of you are apparently) only to find the same thing I have found in the 4805 thread-speculation:(

I can wait for the fog to clear as long as I know how long to wait for. When exactly is the TX100 supposed to come out in the US and other then KTAK, who has seen the TX100?
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I ventured over here from the under 3.5k forum asking about the TX100. I was hoping to find the TX100 at Z2 prices(as all of you are apparently) only to find the same thing I have found in the 4805 thread-speculation:(
Well I'd tend to consider a press release a step above speculation. :D


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When exactly is the TX100 supposed to come out in the US
Second quarter 2004 per the aforementioned PR. That means by June 30.

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and other then KTAK, who has seen the TX100?
About a hundred French and Germans are watching one in their homes as we speak.

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MSRP $3999? Are they on crack or what?? For that money you can buy two of them in Europe! What has this world come to??
Or you can buy two firehawks in the US :D

Ok, here is the deal... Mr. Grubert and myself will happily send a 2 units to the US (that's 8k worth in PJs) in exchange of 4 Firehawk screens (surely less than 6k if you shop wisely). It will be 92" for me. What screen size are you projecting on, Grubert?

As for the remaining two, we will sell it in the Spanish forum for 1.5k each and split the cash :D
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Heh, I'm all for a free market society ;)

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I'll have an 80", thanks.

We also accept payment in iScan or Lumagen DVI scalers. :D

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Hopefully this is within the rules I found a pdf on the Hitachi at this website

http://www.shootandshow.co.uk/hitachi-pjtx100
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A better link:

http://www.shootandshow.co.uk/docs/Hitachi_PJ-TX100.pdf

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