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Any info on this Gennum GF9351 chip? Is it being used in any other pj's or video processors?

Edit: Nevermind. A simple google search revealed it's being used everywhere.
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We in the UK are getting the "shiny white" Japanese HD1 version, to look beautiful in domestic environments.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

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We in the UK are getting the "shiny white" Japanese HD1 version, to look beautiful in domestic environments.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Time to take matters into your own hands:

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The thought had occurred to me... Hell, they might as well have given the thing a mirror finish!

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With that view on color I guess white shirts and t-shirts are forbidden in your theater?

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lol - on the back of his theater door there are some black crushed velvet robes for everyone to change into before taking their seats

In my head there are anyway
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lol - on the back of his theater door there are some black crushed velvet robes for everyone to change into before taking their seats

In my head there are anyway


LMAO
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So has anyone (Tom) had an update on whether the RS-1 will ship with the ability to stretch 2.35:1 out of the box? This would save me purchasing a separate processor and guarantee a sale.
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lol - on the back of his theater door there are some black crushed velvet robes for everyone to change into before taking their seats

I also insist on black face paint.

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lol - on the back of his theater door there are some black crushed velvet robes for everyone to change into before taking their seats

In my head there are anyway


And right next to the robes are the full face welders helmets to cutdown on the reflections from the whites of his visitors eyes...as a side benefit they remove the need for scarfs as the helmets cover most of the neck region and ears also.
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Hey. The ANSI contrast is AMAZING!!!

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I also insist on black face paint.

I tell all my guests that they can't laugh or otherwise open their mouths during the movie as the reflections from their teeth can really cause chaos with my ansi contrast. They understand.
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LOL! Breathing is also discouraged as this reduces the audio S/N.

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LMAO - especially considering the myriad of tests I've been doing in my theater lately in trying to improve ANSI CR by covering things up with felt. Up next, black felt goggles that block the white part of the eye.
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you guys would just cry if you saw my room - cream walls and ceiling, gloss white paintwork, two cream sofas, pictures with glass frames, wooden varnished floor.
Nobody is ever going to talk to me on here ever again
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You can really tell the info has stopped trickling in...
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you guys would just cry if you saw my room - cream walls and ceiling, gloss white paintwork, two cream sofas, pictures with glass frames, wooden varnished floor.
Nobody is ever going to talk to me on here ever again

Who said that?

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Don't you make all your guests wear one of these for movies:??

http://cgi.*********/New-Lycra-zenta...QQcmdZViewItem

Use e*baydotcom number 190057594430 as the link doesn't work here

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Who says Cameron is "right" and why do we care about him so much - lol!

I trust Gary Lightfoot more than James Cameron.
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I tell all my guests that they can't laugh or otherwise open their mouths during the movie as the reflections from their teeth can really cause chaos with my ansi contrast. They understand.

I insist that everyone wears a black leather bondage mask and a ball gag.
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I insist that everyone wears a black leather bondage mask and a ball gag.

If this pj really isn't coming 'till Feb., this thread is doomed. You're all coming unglued. It's like you just don't know what to do with yourselves in antici..... PA-shun.

I'm on the pre-order list too, so I'm right there with ya!
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Yeah.

How about a more topical frenzy about the rumour of a December release?

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Never gonna happen in December. They gotta make these things first before they can sell them to us! (Probably still rampin up the assembly line in China )
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If this pj really isn't coming 'till Feb., this thread is doomed. You're all coming unglued. It's like you just don't know what to do with yourselves in antici..... PA-shun.

I'm on the pre-order list too, so I'm right there with ya!

+1

Now that the flood of new info has been reduced to a mere trickle my only recourse now is to start worrying over whether or not the black casing is going to clash with my mid-nite blue ceiling tiles.

May have to repaint the tiles!!!

j/k

It's going to be a long couple months however.
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you guys are getting punchy!

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Is there any possibility to adjust the gamma curve manually?
Maybe I just read over this information because of the mass of posts. Even in the internet I did not found anything about that...
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What would be great for me is the answers from Tom to a few questions.

First, how will the colour uniformity/shading issues be addressed so that there will not be problems from projector to projector?

Second, what options will be available to mange colour?

THird, can we expect out of the box performance to reach a level high enough to allow us to skip trips to an ISF calibrator and/or Mr. Phelps?
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Since we are running out of new info on the JVC, I am going to post this here, since I am on the preorder for the JVC but have a DLP currently, and have not actually been able to see the JVC in person.

I saw a fully calibrated Sony Ruby today at a local dealer (The Digital Ear in Tustin).

First impression, which was consistent with the SXRD RPTV's I have seen, was that it was NOT "soft". It appeared to be sharp to me. Colors were excellent, very pleasing.

However, I was a little disappointed in something about the image. The only word I can think of to describe it, and I have seen it used before regarding LCoS displays, is "flat". There was a lack of depth to the image. It didn't have the "3D" effect. For example, The Fifth Element scene where Leeloo jumps off the ledge didn't seem to have the feeling of depth or 3 dimensionality that I see with DLP. I almost want to say the image lacked pop, but that isn't entirely accurate because the colors were great. Can an image still lack pop and have great colors? (I am thinking out loud here)

HD from Discovery looked good overall, but still lacking in depth or "pop".

For a PJ that is supposed to have great contrast, I had the distinct impression that what this projector was lacking was.........contrast!

Is what I saw here due to lower ANSI contrast vs DLP? Does the Pearl have higher ANSI contrast than the Ruby?? What about the JVC? How does it compare with regard to image depth vs the Ruby?

BTW, the Ruby was shooting onto a small 100" microperf screen (Stewart). Anyone who says that microperfs disappear are kidding themselves. There was a noticeable grain to the image that wasn't too pleasing.
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I think what you saw was covered a little bit in the widescreen review of the pearl.

edit : I browsed the article but i couldnt find it but i thought there was some theory that the mtf might be the cause.

The jvc is suposed to have higher ansi, i think the pearl has the same ansi as the ruby.
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So, the question I have for myself and the forum is how likely do you think I am to be blown away by upgrading to the RS1?

I'm in on the pre-order. My current setup is an hd2k (phelps optimized), using a dvdo vp50 for de-interlacing hd content.

Now, my system looks great now. So I'll be disappointed if I go through all the annoyance of installing a new one and don't find it much of an upgrade. Here's what I should see improvement from, in theory:

1) Another 200 lumens or so of brightness (?)
2) a large contrast improvement from 2000:1 to 15k:1 (going by specs on the web)
3) the ability to view film content at 24hz (hmm, am I going to be able to get my htpc which plays all the dvds to do this?)
4) anything else?

Do you think I'll be impressed by the change?
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Since we are running out of new info on the JVC, I am going to post this here, since I am on the preorder for the JVC but have a DLP currently, and have not actually been able to see the JVC in person.

I saw a fully calibrated Sony Ruby today at a local dealer (The Digital Ear in Tustin).

First impression, which was consistent with the SXRD RPTV's I have seen, was that it was NOT "soft". It appeared to be sharp to me. Colors were excellent, very pleasing.

However, I was a little disappointed in something about the image. The only word I can think of to describe it, and I have seen it used before regarding LCoS displays, is "flat". There was a lack of depth to the image. It didn't have the "3D" effect. For example, The Fifth Element scene where Leeloo jumps off the ledge didn't seem to have the feeling of depth or 3 dimensionality that I see with DLP. I almost want to say the image lacked pop, but that isn't entirely accurate because the colors were great. Can an image still lack pop and have great colors? (I am thinking out loud here)

HD from Discovery looked good overall, but still lacking in depth or "pop".

For a PJ that is supposed to have great contrast, I had the distinct impression that what this projector was lacking was.........contrast!

Is what I saw here due to lower ANSI contrast vs DLP? Does the Pearl have higher ANSI contrast than the Ruby?? What about the JVC? How does it compare with regard to image depth vs the Ruby?

BTW, the Ruby was shooting onto a small 100" microperf screen (Stewart). Anyone who says that microperfs disappear are kidding themselves. There was a noticeable grain to the image that wasn't too pleasing.

Rob, the thing that makes me think (hope) that your worries of a 'flat' pic from the RS1 are unfounded are all the eye-witness reports we had from the CEDIA and EXPO that said the RS1 was the best pic of the shows, and in the EXPO case several people who saw the RS1 right next to the Sharp 20K dlp said that the RS1's PQ equaled or exceeded that of the Sharp in ALL aspects (sharpness, punch, etc.). I hope that their reports were not based on 'irrational exhuberance', but I think that they were very experienced videophiles. I hope that the production RS1 lives up to all this!
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