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I haven't seen any mention of this projector. Anyone see it at Cedia? It specs out as a nice improvement from the already impressive 5000.
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I saw the HC6000 at IFA, and it impressed me. The contrast seemed excellent, and WAY improved over the HC5000. The image also were very sharp.
The one thing that didn't impress me, was the colors. The picture seemed a bit "green/yellowish", but hopefullry a proper calibration can help this.

Anyone know if the HC6000 has a CMS?
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I haven't seen any mention of this projector. Anyone see it at Cedia? It specs out as a nice improvement from the already impressive 5000.

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Have seen the HC6000 out of the box side by side against a calibrated HC5000 and I have to say the new one did impress a lot. Both in a light controlled room agains a StudioTek 130.

The colors where a bit of but the overall picture was several levels above the HC5000. The biggest difference was the huge improvement in the blacks and it had a even sharper image then the allready impressive sharp HC5000. How this has been done I have no idea about, but the difference was not subtle.

I was no fan of the HC5000 but HC6000 did really have a big push in the picture that the former did not have. I'm going to compare it to BenQ W9000 and se how it stacks against a really good DLP as soon as I can. It's for sure om my short list and I hope it can raise a bit when calibrated.

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I saw it at Cedia. Unfortunately Mitsu's booth really doesn't lend itself to a good demo (same thing last year with the HC5000). I would suspect when it ships that people will get a much better idea on the improvements over the HC5000.
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I saw the HC6000 at IFA, and it impressed me. The contrast seemed excellent, and WAY improved over the HC5000. The image also were very sharp.
The one thing that didn't impress me, was the colors. The picture seemed a bit "green/yellowish", but hopefullry a proper calibration can help this.

Anyone know if the HC6000 has a CMS?

It is not surprising that it looked that way given what they measured at HDTVexpert



This is precisely why some of us have been complaining about the RS1. If a projector becomes very popular even with poor color reproduction, the problem will metastasize to other manufacturers.

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Any idea when this will ship? Can this projector be calibrated to accurate colors? The JVC could not.
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According to Mits employees at CEDIA, the 6000 will ship in October.

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It is not surprising that it looked that way given what they measured at HDTVexpert

I agree, those measurements reflects what I saw.
That beeing said, the RS1 doesn't have a green/yellowish picture, just way oversaturated greens .

Anyone know if the Mits 6000 will have proper saturation and hue/tint controls ?
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I'm racking my brain on if the HC5000 did (I haven't calibrated one in over 6 months). As I recall it does not have CMS, but I can't be 100% sure. I know you asked about the 6000, but my thought was if the 5000 did, I'm sure the 6000 would. Whether they added it I don't know.

FYI the Epson CinemaPro1080 does have CMS (and a bunch of other cool features). I am playing with one now.
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Hi Jason,Is the Epson your playing with the new UB model?If so when will you have a report on it? Thank's John
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No that isn't shipping until December. I mainly brought this in for a demo but I hadn't really played with one so I figured I would.
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I haven't seen any mention of this projector. Anyone see it at Cedia? It specs out as a nice improvement from the already impressive 5000.


Looks like Projector Reviews has an HC6000 in house and is preparing a review:

http://www.projectorreviews.com/
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ARG when is it coming out, I want it.

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ARG when is it coming out, I want it.


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Looks like Projector Reviews has an HC6000 in house and is preparing a review:

http://www.projectorreviews.com/

How can you tell? I don't see anything indicating they are preparing a review.
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That might have one of the earlier preproduction units from the Cedia show or something...
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Preview test by Cine4Home: http://www.cine4home.de/tests/projek...HC6000Prev.htm

Summary for improvements over HC5000 (through Babelfish):

- new, doppellagiger dust collector
- additional Staubflies in the optical path
- 2x HDMI 1,3 entrance
- revised HQV programming
- improved functions in color temperature, focus and zoom shot
- in real time working adaptive lichtblende
- shorter optical path of the basic colour red
- scattered light screen in the optics after "Cine4Home HC5000 Ultra" model
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I just LOVE adaptive lichtblendes!!!
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Man I wish EVERY company had that.
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You'd think they would ... right? I mean ... get with the program. It's the 21st century. It's all adaptive lichtblendes now.
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I just LOVE adaptive lichtblendes!!!

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My local dealer indicates that there will be two versions of this projector. One in the 6k range and one closer to 5k. Can anyone confirm? And if so - what are the differences?
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Must have to do with the adaptive lichtblendes...





Anyways, I translated the end of that preview/review...

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In English:
4. Result Already the HC5000 convinced us and many home cinema fans in the last months. Mitsubishi had succeeded with it a completely efficient Beamer, which improved the home cinema level and above all the call the LCD technology clearly. But the HC5000 had also weaknesses: Like that its contrast relationship was still improvement worthy and many users must their equipment after more intensive use of dust cleaned have. There it lay near to take as a new top model the HC5000 as basis to improve and in the detail. Engineers put this consistently into practice. The filter was integrated more thickly, on the inside an additional pilotFederal Labour Office-close. The optical path was revised with scattered light screen, improved utilization of red and in real time work tender scattered light screen. Signal processing was extended by HDMI 1,3. All these improvements make a still better HC6000 from a good projector like the HC5000. We can recommend only to each home cinema fan to make itself an objective own picture from the Beamer to because straight in the demonstration shows the HC6000 its strengths. Regards is obligation!


Sounds like a good "beamer"....!


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I particularly envy das Perlmutterfickereffekt on the Euro version.

Now i am seriously contemplating trading up from my HC5000.

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Wow, this year it seems 1080p LCDs are taking a leap forward in contrast ratio, and closing the gap from DLPs. After so many years, it's about time.
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The price for it is way to high compared to the rest,They will not sell many.BOB
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