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post #91 of 9210 Old 06-10-2009, 03:35 AM
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I saw it at Tigerdirect for $1499.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to order one today.
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Looks like a good deal for that price.But it blacks do not seem all that great.Would this fp be a upgrade over the ax200.Thanks
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I saw it at Tigerdirect for $1499.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to order one today.

You won't be sorry IMO.

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Check the screen size and throw distance on a calculator.

It should work well as you described. I really like mine.

Where did you see one at $1600?

like ilpostini, I saw it at tigerdirect. also, compusa is really the same company now, so if you buy in store, I think 6 month financing should be possible.

hmmmm....choices choices...
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Bump.Any new buyer reports on the viewsonic.Anyone liking it.Thanks BOB
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Bump.Any new buyer reports on the viewsonic.Anyone liking it.Thanks BOB

sorry, I ended up with the Epson 6100, when that blue big box retailer offered 3 years financing and knocked 400 off the price.

Still think the Viewsonic looks intriguing though.
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I ended up with a new Epson 1080 for $1300.
I thought it was a great price, so I jumped on it.
Convergence is excellent. Very happy with it so far.
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I currently have a Panny AX100u which I'm happy with, but it's a 720p PJ. I saw the deal on TigetDirect on this PJ. Anybody out there have an opinion on whether this PJ is an upgrade from the AX100u (other than just the 720p vs 1080p). One of the knocks on this PJ is the black levels, but are they worse than the Panny?

I see the recommendations here, but I need a PJ with a decent vertical offset and a vertical fit for 2.35 movies.

Budda, don't you have a AX100u?
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I have the ax200 Ed and love it'hard to beat for the money.Art said it would be a upgrade over the ax200'but not by how much.Hard to judge that.Their have been a few here who said they were going to get one and post their opions.Still waiting.
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I have to say that I like the look of the PJ, but when I watch a movie I don't look at the PJ. I think I will wait to see what comes out in the fall and make a move then. I will follow to see how viewsonic builds on this model. I want to see what follows the Epson 6500 and Sanyo Z3000.
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I rec'd a reply fr Viewsonic on the type of panels used.

Their reply was as follows:

Dear Valued Customer,

The Pro8100 uses standard (non-organic) LCD panels. Thank you!



Thank you,

ViewSonic Corporation

381 Brea Canyon Road

Walnut, CA 91789
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Hi,

Just received my new Viewsonic Pro8100. Just wanted to say that I think it looks great. I am projecting onto a 106" painted on Goo Systems screen. The digital grey makes up for the black level and the contrast is very nice. Haven't done the screen calibration yet but already it looks nice.
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Hey-
I purchased the Pro8100 about 6 months ago and love it. The picture is awesome. The only problem is lately I am getting vertical lines showing up in the screen. The only show in lighter scenes such as grass fields in a baseball game. They seem to fade after a couple of hours of watching. Any ideas out there on how to correct this? I've uploaded the firmware etc... The projector is tucked into a soffet (sp?) in the ceiling so I hate to pull it out and reset it to see if that helps. Tech support is giving me little advice.

Thanks for your help.
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you have 2 soloution:
1- you need to change to hd because this problem occurs at sd definition or change the setting of the source dvd, or satalite recevier like upscale to 1080
2- use the overscan to hide these lines
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and visit www.projectorreviews.com to take the calibration but modify it with auto iris on , cit auto, lith auto, and enjoy it more
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Just purchased this projector and am stuck projecting it onto a textured wall for a while. It is my first projector so I am not sure what to expect. Black levels are not great, but I don't know if that is due to projecting on to an off white wall? Also, quick camera pans are a little disorienting. I am not sure if that is just the size of the picture causing me to have to learn to adjust my eyes? I have noticed myself darting my eyes around the screen while watching. I have a green bar on the edge of the picture over HDMI that goes away with component or 2.5% overscan. Overlooking those issues, it is a fantastic overall picture to me with just the HD Comcast I have.

Some general questons

1) What type of USB cable is required to install firmware?
2) When I download the latest firmware, how do I adjust the Iris?
3) I read that PCS is really improved with the firmware. What settings should be tweeked in PCS?

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the usb connection is the same used with printers and computers.

apply these calibration and see much more vivd and sharp picture:
you have to set your source player to ycpr 4:2:2 or 4:4:4
then apply those to your pj:

Individual color settings for "best mode" were done in User 1, and "brightest mode" were done in User 2.

Best Mode: The calibrated version of Cinema mode, has Color Temp set to Warm1.
Brightest Mode: Calibrated version of Cinema mode has Color Temp set to Normal

Contrast=62
Brightness=54
Saturation=44
Hue=50
Black Level=Normal
Color Space=Auto
Lamp Mode=Normal (unless noted otherwise)
Auto Iris=on
Daylight Sensor=Off
HQV:
Detail Enhance=5
Film Mode=Auto
LTI=on
CTI=on

User 1 Setup (used for "best mode", and used with Cinema/Warm1)

Gain R = 521, G = 342, B = 360
Offset R = 506, G = 512, B = 516

The end result measurements after our grayscale and other adjustments:

White (100 IRE): 6427K
Light gray (80 IRE): 6536K
Medium gray (50 IRE): 6576K
Low gray (30 IRE): 6637K

That's about as close as one can get to D65, and viewing movies on the projector after calibration, confirmed the color accuracy.

User 2 Setup (used for "brightest mode", and used with Cinema/Normal)

Gain R = 512, G = 466, B = 470
Offset R = 512, G = 512, B = 512

This provided us with a "brightest mode" image about twice as bright, and still offered a good overall quality image and acceptable color.

One more thing of note, green and yellow colors appear a little oversaturated. You can, however go into the PCS (color management system) and decrease the saturation of each color individually.

these calibration are taken from projectorreviews with a bit modified enjoy
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Gain R = 512, G = 466, B = 470
Offset R = 512, G = 512, B = 512

This provided us with a "brightest mode" image about twice as bright, and still offered a good overall quality image and acceptable color.

One more thing of note, green and yellow colors appear a little oversaturated. You can, however go into the PCS (color management system) and decrease the saturation of each color individually.

these calibration are taken from projectorreviews with a bit modified enjoy

What sensor is used for this readings???? What color management?? Thanks.
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The only way I have seen the ability to set values for the color adjustment is through the memory menu and that only allows custom settings if you set the color temp to user. How are you adjusting with the color temp set to warm1?

Have you updated to firmware 2.5 and what have you changed since then? I read that there was a way to adjust the iris by pushing some buttons on the projector, but it will not work for me. I can't believe how many settings are adjustable. Too much for my experience.

I appreciate the advice.
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I just ordered one of these, cause the price was right.

To be honest, i`m quite sceptical how big of a upgrade PQ wise this machine is going to be compairing my current Infocus IN78 (DC3 DLP), wich was a huge upgrade after owning sanyo z5 and Epson TW700 (HC720) when i bought it a year ago.

Features looks great. I have been thinking about getting screen 2.05:1 so motorized zoom and lens shift would be handy.

2.05:1 would be great CIH compromise for me cause pretty much all cinescope movies i watch is subtitled, so its ok to have black bars enough to show all subtitles.

We`ll see...
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All;

I bought the Epson 6100, and returned it. The defocusing was terrible, and it was very loud when in high power mode. The Pro8100 is not as bright (brightest mode,) but the quiet sharp picture means more to me. Further, it is very close to as bright in best mode.

The Epson looked very washed out and lifeless. I had a HD80 prior and the DLP had much better color. I really hope the pro8100 has more pop.

I think for $1300 the projector will be great. We are in a new home and the money is spread thin. Once we are settled I will get a new 1,000,000,000,000:1 CR PJ. They get so much better every year!

Also, Tigerdirect put the Pro8100 on sale. $1299

In all of my research, the only knock against the PJ is black levels. I can live with its performance for a few years. I have never had a quiet projector, so I pushed that to the top of my list. I am excited to have a room without a central vac sound overhead.

I will share my opinion of the PJ once it arrives and I get it on the ceiling. I am projecting onto a 100" Stewart Firehawk G2.

Another bonus: Once I am done with the PJ I can take it apart and park my car in the housing. This thing is HUGE!
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All;

I bought the Epson 6100, and returned it. The defocusing was terrible, and it was very loud when in high power mode. The Pro8100 is not as bright (brightest mode,) but the quiet sharp picture means more to me. Further, it is very close to as bright in best mode.

The Epson looked very washed out and lifeless. I had a HD80 prior and the DLP had much better color. I really hope the pro8100 has more pop.

I think for $1300 the projector will be great. We are in a new home and the money is spread thin. Once we are settled I will get a new 1,000,000,000,000:1 CR PJ. They get so much better every year!

Also, Tigerdirect put the Pro8100 on sale. $1299

In all of my research, the only knock against the PJ is black levels. I can live with its performance for a few years. I have never had a quiet projector, so I pushed that to the top of my list. I am excited to have a room without a central vac sound overhead.

I will share my opinion of the PJ once it arrives and I get it on the ceiling. I am projecting onto a 100" Stewart Firehawk G2.

Another bonus: Once I am done with the PJ I can take it apart and park my car in the housing. This thing is HUGE!

Congrats'Please post your opion on the pro8100.Their are not many reviews from users like you.My only concern is the iris problem the 8100 has.I hear they have new firmware to fix it.Keep us posted
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As written here at least couple of times before firmware upgrade fixes the auto-iris problem and gives more alternatives to play with the auto-iris.

One thing bothers me... some testers around the web think that black levels are average, some think they're great. To my opinion, black levels are black enough and I can't think any blacker when wathing a movie where is a black phone (plastic), or a black car etc. Looks wery natural to me, I don't know how much the PCS and 1.2 gain screen does to black levels but I'm really pleased with this PJ.

And, there's always filters for LCD PJs to improve contrast rate and black levels. I don't need it but others may try some of those

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Viewsonic tech support told me the iris is not adjustable with the firmware. Can you explain the steps to adjust the iris?

Thanks
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Viewsonic tech support told me the iris is not adjustable with the firmware. Can you explain the steps to adjust the iris?

Thanks

Here's the same text I wrote on page 3: You can access to those iris options using projector's control panel. Push up-down-left-right-down-up-down-up and menu. You should see a little window in the middle of the screen. Just use left and right buttons to select desired option.

E: Viewsonic's technical support really sucks, I haven't got a single answer from there...

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Contrast=62
Brightness=54
Saturation=44
Hue=50

I tested this configuration in last weekend and the results were just as I was afraid of. Contrast level is wayyyy to high, In my earlier testings I found the best value is like 44-46. This may be result of the fact that I'm wathing PAL material, contrast level 62 may be just right for the NTSC material.

BTW, Blu-Ray movie Ratatouille has a quite nice setup program in it, simple and easy-to-use. i think I'll play around with it next weekend.

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Here's the same text I wrote on page 3: You can access to those iris options using projector's control panel. Push up-down-left-right-down-up-down-up and menu. You should see a little window in the middle of the screen. Just use left and right buttons to select desired option.

E: Viewsonic's technical support really sucks, I haven't got a single answer from there...

I had tried that wihtout success. It kept just showing the regular menu instead of the new iris menu. I tried it again and discovered that I had to just tap the menu button to view the iris menu. If I held the menu button in it went past the iris menu and went to the regular menu. Thanks for posting this. I do notice the new settings provide a less noticible iris.
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I'm looking to upgrade from my Epson HC400. Which would be the better deal, the Viewsonic at $1299 or the Sanyo PLV-Z3000 at $1899 after rebate? I know the Sanyo has better blacks, but the Pro8100 seems to have a lot going for it, along with a lower price.
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I just pulled the trigger on this at $1.3K from Tiger with Bing cashback bringing it down shipping inc. to around $1.2K. Should be a very decent deal at this price considering image quality, quietness, features, and that extra year or two the 3-year guarantee gives over competitors.
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i used data color spyder elite for calibration at ycpr 4:2:2. the firmware update 2.5 gives you auto iris setting normal-low-high-balcker than black, and when you apply the color setting set color to user , picture to cinema , then go to memory colour setting apply the previous posted setting best to save 1, bright to save 2. and dont forget to set your playing source to ycpr 4:2:2. and you must apply all color setting with picture setting to get the results. enjoy
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