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JVC RS15 OPPO 93 Darbee Nikon D70











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Here are my screen shots....

Projector: VW1000ES
Player: PS3 1st gen.
Screen: ST130 123" 16 : 9
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Mitsubishi HC5, darbee@hi-def 50%. HTPC

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one screenshot is not enough biggrin.gif
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Okay biggrin.gif I will do some more later.





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JVC RS15 OPPO 93 Darbee Nikon D70

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Dual VDC Marquee Ultras converted to 9 inch tubes on a 13 foot wide screen CRT based Home theater.

The Blend zone is still visible. Next step is displaying each IRE and finding where the blend zone is most visible.
But there are many factors involved, Blend zone size, the gamma adjustment in the blend zone, the contrast modulation in the blend zone( hardest to adjust) and the gamma matching of both PJ's at each IRE .
Nothing works out perfectly, adjusting one affects the other. I wish TV-One would add at least 10 point
adjustability of the blend zone gamma. That would be a huge help. I sent them the request, or at least add
it to the next generation of edge blenders.

Pause blurs things a bit, it is easier to see at this large resolution.










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Dual VDC Marquee Ultras converted to 9 inch tubes on a 13 foot wide screen CRT based Home theater.
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I'd love to see this in person...
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Mitsubishi HC5, darbee@hi-def 50%. HTPC
Since you're running an HTPC, have you compared any software-based sharpening/enhancement to the Darbee?
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Dual VDC Marquee Ultras converted to 9 inch tubes on a 13 foot wide screen CRT based Home theater.

The Blend zone is still visible. Next step is displaying each IRE and finding where the blend zone is most visible.
But there are many factors involved, Blend zone size, the gamma adjustment in the blend zone, the contrast modulation in the blend zone( hardest to adjust) and the gamma matching of both PJ's at each IRE .
Nothing works out perfectly, adjusting one affects the other. I wish TV-One would add at least 10 point
adjustability of the blend zone gamma. That would be a huge help. I sent them the request, or at least add
it to the next generation of edge blenders.

Pause blurs things a bit, it is easier to see at this large resolution.


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It is easy to see how soft the CRT is compared to paolino64s RS15.

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It is easy to see how soft the CRT is compared to paolino64s RS15.

Yes it is not dialed in yet very well this is the first set up after switching to 9 inch tubes. It will get real sharp once I am done.
In blending I am only running 1056x800p @72 hz so its a breeze for each PJ to resolve. its just my quick focus set up.
I had my 8 inch super sharp but the lack of Liquid coupling on those tubes made blending a bit harder due to the halo effect of AC tubes.

Plus I like the film look when watching movies, digital look fake to my eyes, flat, no depth in objects. And motion resolution is not there yet unless you spend 50k
and true black is just awesome with CRT. it great when it goes to a FTB scene and those who have digitals say uh uh !! your PJ shut off!!! then it comes blazing back on again!


Love those moments! wink.gif

PS: And I was thinking of adding the darblett, one CRT owner says it does make a perceptual difference.

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Yes it is not dialed in yet very well this is the first set up after switching to 9 inch tubes. It will get real sharp once I am done.
In blending I am only running 1056x800p @72 hz so its a breeze for each PJ to resolve. its just my quick focus set up.
I had my 8 inch super sharp but the lack of Liquid coupling on those tubes made blending a bit harder due to the halo effect of AC tubes.

Plus I like the film look when watching movies, digital look fake to my eyes, flat, no depth in objects. And motion resolution is not there yet unless you spend 50k
and true black is just awesome with CRT. it great when it goes to a FTB scene and those who have digitals say uh uh !! your PJ shut off!!! then it comes blazing back on again!


Love those moments! wink.gif

PS: And I was thinking of adding the darblett, one CRT owner says it does make a perceptual difference.

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If you think digital projectors look flat compared to your CRT, you definetly have not seen a good digital projector. I can think of many cheap SXRD, D-ILA and DLP´s having much more depth than any CRT modifyed or not.

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The CRT tubes do not have the same primary points as Rec. 709. One has to filter the green and the Red and the Red tube can not be fully filtered without losing too much light. Filter the blue? It is so weak in output unfiltered, one can forget doing any filtering there.
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Since you're running an HTPC, have you compared any software-based sharpening/enhancement to the Darbee?
Actually, I use ffdshow's unsharp mask filter in conjunction with Darbee and it really does a tremendous job on increasing perceived sharpness. Unsharp mask is the only software filter that I've tried that doesn't introduce ringing or other horrible artifacts. It just makes grain more visible. I can do comparison photos if you like.
On a side note, that screenshot with James sucked because I checked color on the PJ itself which has large color gamut. Watching it now on a sRGB monitor makes it look dull (which wasn't the case IRL). I'll come back with better one.
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I have seen the RS 45 and the BenQ wd 7000 both were bright as hell!!! As ell as a few other Digitals, one was a Sim 3 dark chip...I forgot the model. But they all had grey blacks and had that flat 3D look , like when you have card board cut outs placed
at different distances from you. the objects themselves have no depth even tho the overall image does. With CRT everything has depth if calibrated right. And once again no motion blur. CRT still has the best motion resolution out there, unless you get into the 5 to 6 digit price tags.


But paolino's screen shots do look great. But this is just for fun and you really can't tell from screen shots.
carry on


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I have seen the RS 45 and the BenQ wd 7000 both were bright as hell!!! As ell as a few other Digitals, one was a Sim 3 dark chip...I forgot the model. But they all had grey blacks and had that flat 3D look , like when you have card board cut outs placed
at different distances from you. the objects themselves have no depth even tho the overall image does. With CRT everything has depth if calibrated right. And once again no motion blur. CRT still has the best motion resolution out there, unless you get into the 5 to 6 digit price tags.


But paolino's screen shots do look great. But this is just for fun and you really can't tell from screen shots.
carry on


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Please enlighten me as what "5 to 6 digit" price tag projector has better (or equal) motion resolution/handling? The best I've seen was on the Marantz VP-11S1 and it still pales in comparison to a CRT. Unless a 3 Chip DLP is a LOT better there isn't another front projection technology that can come even close to CRT.
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Please enlighten me as what "5 to 6 digit" price tag projector has better (or equal) motion resolution/handling? The best I've seen was on the Marantz VP-11S1 and it still pales in comparison to a CRT. Unless a 3 Chip DLP is a LOT better there isn't another front projection technology that can come even close to CRT.

I would love to have a digital with motion of a CRT, but LCOS blacks. Maybe OLED will be able to do this.

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If only we could get OLEDs to work in a projector. Those OLEDs would have to be outputting some serious lumens.
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Got to be pretty bright to accommodate headlights. But it's only a light source. We need per-pixel lighting projectors!
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Hello Kevin, your filter sharp shift 2 is very high, this increases the artifacts wink.gif




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Hello Kevin, your filter sharp shift 2 is very high, this increases the artifacts wink.gif

Hi

Yes looks that way, i will have to remember to check the setting next time. cool.gif

My screen gain sometimes show as white dots 1.2 gain you may be seeing traces of that.
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Rs45 with gray blacks ?
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Seems not many artifact in my Sony combo......





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