Marantz VP-11S2 - Page 16 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #451 of 1662 Old 02-17-2008, 06:16 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Catdaddy67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,209
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Jason,

I just put up my Carada HCG screen and its night and day. I think the grey screen looks better than white screens do. There is absolutely no haze with the HCG and the 11S2 in iris 1 or iris 3. It looks better to me in iris 3 with HCG, where it has less CR and even more fl, than Carada BW and iris 1.

Try out a grey screen, with the next 11S2 you calibrate/measure and compare the image to your white screen.

Its like looking through glass with the HCG whereas I can tell its a projected image, although it looks damn good, with the Carada BW.

I would recommend that anyone who wants this projector look at pairing it with a firehawk, a HCG, or other grey screen .. even if it has plus gain.

I would recommend anyone
Catdaddy67 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #452 of 1662 Old 02-17-2008, 06:29 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Catdaddy67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,209
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Rob, the ND filter doesnt help with the 11S2 anymore. Its black. Unless you want blacker than black, I guess. 8)

Id take that 11S2/grey screen image in iris 1 (at 8 fl), or even iris 3 (at 16 fl), against any other image. 8)
Catdaddy67 is offline  
post #453 of 1662 Old 02-17-2008, 06:54 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Joelc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,067
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catdaddy67 View Post

Jason,

I just put up my Carada HCG screen and its night and day. I think the grey screen looks better than white screens do. There is absolutely no haze with the HCG and the 11S2 in iris 1 or iris 3. It looks better to me in iris 3 with HCG, where it has less CR and even more fl, than Carada BW and iris 1.

Try out a grey screen, with the next 11S2 you calibrate/measure and compare the image to your white screen.

Its like looking through glass with the HCG whereas I can tell its a projected image, although it looks damn good, with the Carada BW.

I would recommend that anyone who wants this projector look at pairing it with a firehawk, a HCG, or other grey screen .. even if it has plus gain.

I would recommend anyone


Good to hear as unless Jason either (i) recommends a different projector or (ii) recommends a different screen I will be pairing it with a FireHwak (albeit a lowly G1 version)...

Joel
Some people choose to have a pool, I choose to have a home theater!
Joelc is offline  
post #454 of 1662 Old 02-17-2008, 07:01 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Jason Turk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Rochester, NY USA
Posts: 12,451
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Personally I cannot stand gray screens unless there is a reason (such as ambient light) to have one. I personally feel that the "pop" disappears. But, to each his own.
Jason Turk is offline  
post #455 of 1662 Old 02-17-2008, 07:33 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Joelc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,067
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Turk View Post

Personally I cannot stand gray screens unless there is a reason (such as ambient light) to have one. I personally feel that the "pop" disappears. But, to each his own.

Jason:

Oh oh....I feel my wallet getting even lighter...

That said, I know that it is possible to "field exchange" screen material in a Stewart eletric screen...do you offer this service as well (i.e. changing the screen material)?

Thanks,

Joel

Joel
Some people choose to have a pool, I choose to have a home theater!
Joelc is offline  
post #456 of 1662 Old 02-17-2008, 08:30 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Jason Turk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Rochester, NY USA
Posts: 12,451
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
We could help out sure. I would first get the projector and try it on the screen you have. You may love it as is.
Jason Turk is offline  
post #457 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 03:18 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Catdaddy67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,209
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Joel,

Dont get a new screen until after you have checked it out on your firehawk. I would get a sample first and compare. The difference is night and day for me.

I know Jason likes the white screens but there is a noticeable difference. The white screens definitely appear brighter, but its really unecessary with this projector. In my opinion it even looks better in iris 3 with a HCG (where its at 16fl) than it did at iris 1 on my Carada BW (where it was at 14 fl), although it definitely looks better to me at iris 1 with the HCG.

I watched it at iris 3 on my HCG last night and forgot that I left it on iris 3, the 11S2 HCG combo is that good, too. 8)

The grey material appears to make the greys darker, and seems to lift haze from images that would otherwise appear to have a layer of it.

Definitely DONT replace your firehawk screen uncessesarily, and even worse to the detriment of your image. 8)
Catdaddy67 is offline  
post #458 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 04:22 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Joelc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,067
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Jason and Catdaddy:

Your suggestions are good -- particularly given that I normally have some light on when watching football games. The other key point that you correctly noted is that I need to compare the image on the FireHawk versus the image on a StudioTek 130 (or other white screen).

Have a good one...

Joel
Some people choose to have a pool, I choose to have a home theater!
Joelc is offline  
post #459 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 04:30 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Catdaddy67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,209
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
What I recommended David do with his 15S1 was purchase the Carada 2.35 screen with BW or HCG material, then to also purchase the other material separately. They have a 30 day return policy and you can compare for yourself. If you ordered the Carada BW screen from Carada and decided it didnt look as good as your firehawk you can return it within 30 days for any reason.

It isnt even close for me. 8)

I didnt have my white screen up for long.
Catdaddy67 is offline  
post #460 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 04:39 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Joelc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,067
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catdaddy67 View Post

What I recommended David do with his 15S1 was purchase the Carada 2.35 screen with BW or HCG material, then to also purchase the other material separately. They have a 30 day return policy and you can compare for yourself. If you ordered the Carada BW screen from Carada and decided it didnt look as good as your firehawk you can return it within 30 days for any reason.

It isnt even close for me. 8)

I didnt have my white screen up for long.


Got it...the screnn will be number three (and the final item) on the list of 2008 projects as there is only so much cash and time...for those interested:

1. is a start at home automation (i.e. alarms, home theater, heated floors, hvac, and lights all on a 2 way rf system) which may / may not happen pending on price

2. is, as most know, a new projector

3. is a new screen

after that I am done for the year other than firmware upgrades and a possible hardware upgrade to my pre/pro and dvd player should Meridian come out with an HDMI solution / upgrade but these are physically easy and require no learning/research as I have already large qunatities of the "Meridian koolaid"!

Joel
Some people choose to have a pool, I choose to have a home theater!
Joelc is offline  
post #461 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 08:37 AM
Senior Member
 
yankee14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 421
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
WELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have my 11S2 with a 114" firehawk installed saturday.

The Screen took only 7 days to arrive and the 11S2 took 3 days.

First of all let me thank Topp Richardson of Applied Digital Science, if you are in the Dallas Fort Worth area check him out.

I actually had to ask him to go home to his wife, he was so impressed with the unit, we kept testing it with various video formats.

This is my first Front projector. I had a Mits 73" diamond for about 6 years.

The settings I prefer are : Iris 3, Color Wheel 5x, dynamic 2 or 3, Lamp normal.

I do not understand the theater and standard modes, they look so bland to me.

Blacks are truly black and the whites are white. When a 235 aspect Blu-Ray was used the bars disappeared into the screen border.

I have it on 5x color wheel as the 6x is noisier, the projector noise is something I will have to get used to especially for music video concerts.

I personally prefer skin tones a little on the red/pink side and to me they appeared a shade on the yellow side, I invited about 10 people over the weekend and it was about a 50 / 50 split on the skin tone, so it is a personal taste preference.

There are plenty of color adjustments to keep me busy when I decide to make the adjustment.
If anybody has made this type of skin tone adjustment please me know.
I read somewhere that there is a AV disc coming out in Blu-ray, hopefully sooner then later.

I wish I could be more technical, Topp said that the CA was the best he has ever seen and that it was very very sharp.

My only contribution was to calculate the distance and got the 114" screen to avoid having to move / remove a ceiling fan. We made it by a inch for the ceiling beam.

I might have said this before but a store that I visited which had the RS1 and 15S1 and at that time I preferred the 15S1 as I though the black was better then the RS1.

This 11S2 from memory is definitely a deeper black, I wish I could explain it better.
It is as black as its velvet border if that makes sense.

I am also impressed with the HDMI upconversion of SDVD's . I know that is another forum but I am still in the WOW mode.
The hockey game on NBC was as bright as you could possible want, I had season tickets to the NY Rangers for 21 years and the ice looked better on the screen then I remember it in person.

Channels like HDnet are also spectacular.
For the first time I can notice the difference in broadcast quality from channel to channel, my Mits only had component so I do not know if that was the reason, I kept reading where forum members would talk about it and now I can understand what they were referring to.

Sorry if I started rambling on but its a WOW factor for me and everyone that I have had take a look at it. My wife is really really impressed so I am a LUCKY MAN.

Greg

Greg
yankee14 is offline  
post #462 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 08:50 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Catdaddy67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,209
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I bet that looks great, Greg. 8) Congratulations!

After I put back my HCG .. I scrolled through the iris settings and actually viewed some Casino Royale and Transformers in iris 3, and I really liked that image too. I actually thought I was in iris 1, until right before I shut it off. I was going to scroll back into iris 3 to look at it one more time and then i found out I was actually viewing stuff in iris 3 already. 8)

It definitely looked better to me than iris 1 or 3 on the Carada BW. The grey screen definitely makes this projector shine even more. 8)

I still personally prefer the blacks in iris 1, but iris 3 looked very very much acceptable and much brighter. I definitely have never felt that way about an iris 3 setting on any of my other dual iris projectors. 8)
Catdaddy67 is offline  
post #463 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 10:09 AM
AVS Special Member
 
frank456's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: guelph, canada
Posts: 1,263
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I have seen this model throw an image which is every bit as good as everyone states. State of the art single chip DLP at it's best. If I did not already have my sharp 20000 the 11S2 model would be in my theater already.
frank456 is offline  
post #464 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 01:18 PM
 
Randall Morton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Mid South
Posts: 1,756
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
So Frank, How did it compare to the 20K. I know it can be hard to compare if you didn't get to A:B them, but I would still like to hear your impressions. Black level, pop, noise(audible and in the picture), brightness etc.
Randall Morton is offline  
post #465 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 05:49 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
mark haflich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: brookeville, maryland, usa
Posts: 19,552
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 241 Post(s)
Liked: 374
Randall's getting the itch to buy a new projector.

I played with an RS2 all yesterday. Really like the blacks. Turned the color intensity down a bit. If I were getting one for myself, I'd fix the colors with my Lumagen.

But when I compare it to projectors with great lenses like the Marantz and the Sony VPL-vw200, the image is just plain too soft. Not bothersome in a vacuum but in comparisons there is a certain firmness or solidarity with a sharper image that the RS2 just doesn't have. But hell, the better lens models cost one a bunch more. But all these machines are good. We are living in an age of some very good front projectors.

Mark Haflich
markhaflich@yahoo.com
call me at: 240 876 2536
mark haflich is online now  
post #466 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 06:32 PM
AVS Special Member
 
frank456's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: guelph, canada
Posts: 1,263
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Randall: The black levels are so close without a side by side comparison that I really could not say which is better. Dithering is almost non existant between the two which shows how far the DLP technology has come. Fan noise is less than the sharp but still could be quieter. You get used to it and almost becomes barely noticable after a while as it is a steady background hum which you tune out after a while. The biggest factor to me is the total lack of video noise in the image from the Marantz which also applies to the sharp. The multi iris design in the marantz gives it the advantage over the already excellent and reputable sharp by giving a higher brightness level with comparable black levels. Amazing.

I watched the SD version of 'titanic' on the 11S2 fed by the toshiba XA2 and the bright noise free image looked almost high def. on a 100" studiotek. It was that good.

The 11S2 kicks the pants off most lower priced Single chip DLP offerings.

Mark: I would love to see the Konica-Minolta lens assembly on the RS2. Would add at least 3500$ to the price of the projector from the parts catalogue I looked at but what a difference it would make IMO.
frank456 is offline  
post #467 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 06:57 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Jason Turk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Rochester, NY USA
Posts: 12,451
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I think that is one of the Marantz's strongest point (and the RS2's weakest). A good lens can really make/break a projectors ultimate performance. The 11S2 is killer in this regard.

Congrast yankee14! It will surely bring you much enjoyment for the next several years (or months if you are like most of us)!
Jason Turk is offline  
post #468 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 07:39 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Catdaddy67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,209
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Unless most people do a side by side, they probably could not tell the difference between the 15S1 and 11S2, either. The blacks on the 11S2 that Jason measured are definitely much deeper than the Sharp 20k and 15S1 (the 15S1 he measured actually measured better than the Sharp) that he measured but from my observations, except for the blacks which I am very sensitive to, the 11S2 and 15S1 put out very similar images.

The 15S1 and 11S2 do share a lot of the same lineage though, as far as build, lenses, video processors, dual-iris setups, etc. I do get that same dejavu feeling all over again when I watch mid to bright scenes on my 11S2, however when it gets down to blacks and darker scenes that is definitely when I start to purr. 8)
Catdaddy67 is offline  
post #469 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 07:52 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
mark haflich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: brookeville, maryland, usa
Posts: 19,552
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 241 Post(s)
Liked: 374
I'd buy a JVC without reservation for $3500 more if it had a lens of the caliber in the Marantzes or the Sony 200. In a flash. I hope next year JVC comes out with a model that does this. Damn. I can fix the colors with equipment I already own. There is no way of adding a better lens.

Mark Haflich
markhaflich@yahoo.com
call me at: 240 876 2536
mark haflich is online now  
post #470 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 08:02 PM
Advanced Member
 
ilsiu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 867
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

Randall's getting the itch to buy a new projector.

I played with an RS2 all yesterday. Really like the blacks. Turned the color intensity down a bit. If I were getting one for myself, I'd fix the colors with my Lumagen.

But when I compare it to projectors with great lenses like the Marantz and the Sony VPL-vw200, the image is just plain too soft. Not bothersome in a vacuum but in comparisons there is a certain firmness or solidarity with a sharper image that the RS2 just doesn't have. But hell, the better lens models cost one a bunch more. But all these machines are good. We are living in an age of some very good front projectors.

How would you rank the sharpness of your reference 9" CRT, the Marantz, the Sony, and the JVC?
ilsiu is offline  
post #471 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 08:19 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Jason Turk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Rochester, NY USA
Posts: 12,451
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

I'd buy a JVC without reservation for $3500 more if it had a lens of the caliber in the Marantzes or the Sony 200. In a flash. I hope next year JVC comes out with a model that does this. Damn. I can fix the colors with equipment I already own. There is no way of adding a better lens.

Well there is...but you'd have to know some good optics people who like to tinker.
Jason Turk is offline  
post #472 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 08:41 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
millerwill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 11,383
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Liked: 29
Well, Jason, the 11S2 does sound awfully impressive; would love to see one side-by-side with a RS1/2, to see if my unsophisticated eyes can see the difference. Are there any tentative dates yet for your 'spring shootout'? Would like to make it if I can.
millerwill is online now  
post #473 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 08:42 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
mark haflich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: brookeville, maryland, usa
Posts: 19,552
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 241 Post(s)
Liked: 374
Jason. I know it could be done but one would always have the problem of aligning the chips and the prism to the new lens. I'd rather buy a projector than build one. Its just not practicable and the end result wpuld have little resale value.

Mark Haflich
markhaflich@yahoo.com
call me at: 240 876 2536
mark haflich is online now  
post #474 of 1662 Old 02-18-2008, 10:45 PM
 
Randall Morton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Mid South
Posts: 1,756
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Thanks for your impressions of the projectors Frank.

Mark,
I'm always looking for a better projector. It would be easy to buy the RS2 as I think I could swap out the RS1 for the RS2 and my wife would never know.

Also, I agree that I would be much more likely to go with the RS2 if it had a better lens. Right now I'm leaning toward the Marantz but may wait a bit longer for more info and comparisons.
Randall Morton is offline  
post #475 of 1662 Old 02-19-2008, 06:53 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Ohlson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Falun, Sweden
Posts: 5,434
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
mark haflich
In a thread from september last year rumor said that JVC would come out with a higher end d-ila projector which sounds like a projector with a great lens. I doubt such a projector would be for the person with a RS2 level budget but it could be an alternative to VW200 or say a Marants 11s2. Q2 2008 was the estimated time of a new JVC product launch.

Mattias Ohlson
Ohlson is offline  
post #476 of 1662 Old 02-19-2008, 07:19 AM
Member
 
CapeAV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 111
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Did you get the Carada Criterion Series fixed frame version? and what size is your screen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Catdaddy67 View Post

Jason,

I just put up my Carada HCG screen and its night and day. I think the grey screen looks better than white screens do. There is absolutely no haze with the HCG and the 11S2 in iris 1 or iris 3. It looks better to me in iris 3 with HCG, where it has less CR and even more fl, than Carada BW and iris 1.

Try out a grey screen, with the next 11S2 you calibrate/measure and compare the image to your white screen.

Its like looking through glass with the HCG whereas I can tell its a projected image, although it looks damn good, with the Carada BW.

I would recommend that anyone who wants this projector look at pairing it with a firehawk, a HCG, or other grey screen .. even if it has plus gain.

I would recommend anyone

CapeAV is offline  
post #477 of 1662 Old 02-19-2008, 07:24 AM
Member
 
CapeAV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 111
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
why an RS1? the Marantz VP-12S4 from the year 2005 will give you a better picture than the RS1.

Quote:
Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Well, Jason, the 11S2 does sound awfully impressive; would love to see one side-by-side with a RS1/2, to see if my unsophisticated eyes can see the difference. Are there any tentative dates yet for your 'spring shootout'? Would like to make it if I can.

CapeAV is offline  
post #478 of 1662 Old 02-19-2008, 07:42 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Catdaddy67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,209
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I have the Carada Precision screen, Cape. It is fixed. I am size challenged on my Cabinet that the screen goes on, so I chose to maximize viewable screen square footage.

Its 2.35 128" diagonal, 117" wide.
Catdaddy67 is offline  
post #479 of 1662 Old 02-19-2008, 07:57 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
millerwill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 11,383
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Liked: 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by CapeAV View Post

why an RS1? the Marantz VP-12S4 from the year 2005 will give you a better picture than the RS1.

Seeing them side-by-side with an RS1 would be useful to me since I have one, and I would thus be able to judge just how much better I perceive the pic of others to be.
millerwill is online now  
post #480 of 1662 Old 02-19-2008, 08:26 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Jason Turk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Rochester, NY USA
Posts: 12,451
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
The RS1 does some stuff better than a Marantz 12S4, and vice versa. I don't think anyone can claim with certainty that one is better than the other. Each person will have different ideas of what they consider to be "better" characteristics.

millerwill...still working on the shootout but in truth I have been ultrabusy and not had a lot of time to get the details. Basically it turned out to be way more interest than we thought which caused us to have to go back to square one. Anyways, I'd be happy to setup a personal mini-shootout for you if you would like. Just tell me what you want to see and when.
Jason Turk is offline  
Reply Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP

Tags
Marantz Vp 11s2 Dlp Projector
Gear in this thread - 11s2 by PriceGrabber.com

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off