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post #4021 of 4239 Old 01-13-2012, 09:47 PM
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What's the general feeling here about how long JVC will allow use of the promotion code (20% discount) recently mentioned in this thread? I'm trying to decide if it makes sense to buy a backup bulb now, even though I'm only at around 500 hours on my PJ. At my rate of usage, I won't hit 2,000 hours for a couple of years! The price point with promotion code, however, is very tempting and I would then have a backup ready to go in case anything happens to the current bulb.

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I just hit 1900 hours and I had a message pop up that said the bulb needed to be replaced. Can I just keep using it or should I go ahead and buy the bulb? I saw that code for the JVC brand and w/ overnight it comes out to $318. Do I need to go w/ the JVC or are one of the cheaper bulbs acceptable? IE the http://www.projectorlampsource.ca/jv...ctor_bulb.html that a couple people said they had.

I also 2nd the write up for a detailed cleaning.

Edit: I know that people are using their bulbs for much longer than 1900 hours as well. I just saw the message so it concerned me. Is it built in to pop up at that many hours or does something cause it?
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Promo code is no longer any good. How do yall get notified of the promo codes for future reference?
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Promo code is no longer any good. How do yall get notified of the promo codes for future reference?

Just processed my order and the code worked for me!

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Yeah I must have typed it in wrong 2nd time, oops
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Guys what's the code for the JVC site for the lamp?
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Hi Guy's,

I just want to give a bit of a warning on the Philips lamp being used in the JVC RS2 by some.

I purchased one for use in my Cineversum Blackwing (RS2 clone). It worked really well for a while and then I started noticing a Cream streak (about 2%) down the left side (mine in ceiling mounted). I put on some white test material and it was very obvious. After a lot of mucking around I discovered that it wouldn't show up for the first 20-30 minutes and then be very noticeable. I thought it might be a projector fault, but tried the other lamps I have. I have a factory lamp with 600 hours on it. I installed that and the fault is gone. Tested with white tests after 5 hours use and the white uniformity is very good. I now have run 3 other films with no issues. So have proved to myself it was the Philips Lamp causing the fault. So I will stick to the JVC lamp.

So be careful with some other manufactures lamps. The white uniformity might not be so great and can change as the lamp gets hot.

I love this projector and have no desire for 3D. I can't even stomach it in a Theatre.

Thanks Dono
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guys what's the code for the jvc site for the lamp?

JVCPROMODP1712.

Ta Dono
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Are any of you getting the lamp from 3rd party people, like AV Science store for example? Or is it cheaper to just go through JVC w/ this coupon?
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JVCPROMODP1712.

Ta Dono

Thanks, total of $300 with shipping and tax..
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never mind found the link! Great Deal
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Still working today and thats a 31% discount code, not 20%!!
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Bit the bullet and finally ordered a new lamp today. Now if I can just figure out how and what the other parts are that yall are cleaning on this thing
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urmystlkal,

When you pull the lamp out, there is a mirror (i believe its called a prism) get a dust free cloth and use a something like a straight screw drive, nothing sharp enought to penatrate the cloth, otherwise you will scratch the prism. You will find a lot a dust accumulated on the cloth after cleaning the prism and it should give you about 2-3 more fl of light increase. Go back through this thread and you should find the procedure.
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I drape the cleaning cloth that came with the projector over the eraser end of a pencil to clean the prism; it seems to work well.
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I drape the cleaning cloth that came with the projector over the eraser end of a pencil to clean the prism; it seems to work well.

I get more carbon on the lamp than the prisim. I think it is something coming out of the plastic lamp housing. Especially on the edge of the lamp glass.

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I get more carbon on the lamp than the prisim. I think it is something coming out of the plastic lamp housing. Especially on the edge of the lamp glass.

Ta Dono

Never thought about the cleaning the lamp. I assume you just used a micro-fibre cloth without alcohol, right?

Badas,

You were correct about the lamp. I just cleaned it and found a lot of soot on the lamp. Thanks!!1
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Never thought about the cleaning the lamp. I assume you just used a micro-fibre cloth without alcohol, right?

Badas,

You were correct about the lamp. I just cleaned it and found a lot of soot on the lamp. Thanks!!1

Glad to help. So many people have helped me.
I don't use alcohol. I'm a bit suspicious about something that could burn with something that is very hot and what it could do to the plastic
lamp housing.

I use a hot wet micro fibre cloth to wipe and then a lens cloth immediately to wipe any water residue from the lens and prism. Works well and there is no nasty chemicals.

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Some guy's have asked for a lamp/prism cleaning procedure.

I will volunteer.

I have been cleaning mine regularly for 18 months. Here is what I do.
It might not be the way others do it.

You will need a Philips Screwdriver, Micro-fibre cloth, Lens cloth, Cotton buds
and a can of compressed air.

1. Clean every 100 hours. I use my info screen to tell me when it reaches a new
100 hours. I always do it when the lamp timer reaches another 00. Give or take
a bit.

2. Turn power off. Most important.

3. Using the Philips screwdriver, undo the lamp cover.

4. Undo the two screws that hold the lamp in position. Undo the top
screw last so lamp doesn't fall out easy.

5. I grab a really clean hot wet micro-fibre cloth, cotton buds and a clean
dry lens cloth.

6. Wipe the prism with the wet micro-fibre cloth, then immediately dry with
the lens cloth. Then wrap the cotton bud with the lens cloth and wipe
around the edges and corner of the prism.

7. Wipe the lamp lens/glass with the micro-fibre and then wipe with the lens
cloth. Also wipe and clean the plastic. I have noticed this can get brittle and
a lot of residue can come from the plastic lens housing.

8. I blow the interior with a can of compressed air. give the prism one last
wipe.

9. Reinstall the lamp. Do the top screw first to hold lamp in place. Reinstall
the lamp cover.

10. Turn on the power. You now have another 100 hours of bright beautiful
images.

Hope this helps.

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I have heard that Alan had suggested a certain setup procedure for this projector can anyone lead me to it in this forum or show me how to do it? something to do with gamma and ire bump i think. thanks
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I have heard that Alan had suggested a certain setup procedure for this projector can anyone lead me to it in this forum or show me how to do it? something to do with gamma and ire bump i think. thanks

There was a lot of talk a while back about setting gamma to 2.4 and then go to the Gamma white offset and bumping the 5% setting up 5 points to 45 for memory.

This really works I used it for about 2 years. Bright scenes look dynamic and the bump improves shadow detail.

I have just recently been experimenting with this further and set the Gamma to 2.4 and then white 30% to 20% setting on 2.3 Gamma and
15% down to 5% setting on 2.2 Gamma, with the 5% with a further 5 point bump. I then smoothed some of the intermediate levels to create
a smooth curve from 30% to 5%. I really liked the results. Still very dynamic on bright scenes but I have every bit of shadow detail in bright and
dark scenes. I will post my settings in a few days when I turn mine back on. Try it if you want.

If you put on a certain scene and pause you can then go to the Gamma settings and play around. Press menu and it will ask if you would
like to store the settings. Enter for yes and exit for no. I look at the scene and then press exit so I can see a adjusted and before difference.

Have a play around.

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Okay here is my Gamma settings.

I've had these like this for 3 weeks now. It may not be
everyone's preference but I really, really like it.

It is very bright, Dynamic and shows every bit of shadow detail in
very dark and bright scenes. I was amazed how much detail I was
losing in bright scenes with the gamma just on 2.4.

All 3 Blu-ray players are set on Y,Cr,Cb 36 bit 4.4.4 output. In otherwords
enhanced colourspace. I find this easier to calibrate.

I have my Brightness set on R16 using the Spears & Muncil disc

Contrast is set on R235 using the Spears & Muncil disc. I am clipping
peek white to gain extra contrast. The JVC will display up to R255, I just
don't find there is much detail between R235 and R255.

So with these setting here is the Gamma settings.

Go to Gamma/Custom settings. Set Gamma to 2.4. Go to White
Gamma Offset. Change the 5% to 30% to these.

5% 52
10% 100
15% 140
20% 186
30% 276
40% 375
50% 481
60% 588
70% 693
80% 804
90% 911
95% 967

This produces a nice gamma curve from 2.4 and tailing down to 2.2
in dark areas. I haven't sighted any black crush or greyscale blocking,
just enhanced shadows and a very dynamic picture.

Have a go.

Ta Dono
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Any suggestions for the best place to sell a used projector? I'm finally going to break down and sell my FPJ1 and I'm not sure if Audiogon or AVS or where ever is the best place to sell? I'm not sure I feel comfortable selling something like this on ebaY.

I also need to come up with a double box somehow.
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These are the 3 places that I know of. For something like a JVC, do not go Craigslist.
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Hello all,
Just replaced my lamp for Pioneer FPJ a few weeks ago. This is the procedure I followed (from the pdf manual):

Press in the order as shown.
Insert the power plug to the power outlet STANDBY/ON; Light on (Red)

Press each button within 2-second intervals and press the last button for 2 seconds or more.

EXIT, ENTER, HIDE, then down arrow (Press for 2 seconds or more)
␣The [LAMP] indicator and [STANDBY/ON] indicator blink alternately for 3 seconds. After that, the unit switches to standby mode.

I tried doing this first without pressing the power/standby button - no go. Then turned on projector; the warning message stating "change your bulb" comes on. When I hit exit (that message goes away), then enter, hide, and press and hold down arrow, the power indicator starts to blink but not the lamp indicator LED. The fan stays on, and the unit seems to go to standby, but the lamp stays on at a dim level. I cannot see anything on the screen, but if I hold my hand in front of the lens I can see some light on my hand.

Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

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I believe you have to do every single thing they list in the instructions - including unplugging the power cord and plugging it back in. I believe they plan on you having it unplugged during the bulb change, and design that into the reset sequence.

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Okay here is my Gamma settings.

I've had these like this for 3 weeks now. It may not be
everyone's preference but I really, really like it.

It is very bright, Dynamic and shows every bit of shadow detail in
very dark and bright scenes. I was amazed how much detail I was
losing in bright scenes with the gamma just on 2.4.

All 3 Blu-ray players are set on Y,Cr,Cb 36 bit 4.4.4 output. In otherwords
enhanced colourspace. I find this easier to calibrate.

I have my Brightness set on R16 using the Spears & Muncil disc

Contrast is set on R235 using the Spears & Muncil disc. I am clipping
peek white to gain extra contrast. The JVC will display up to R255, I just
don't find there is much detail between R235 and R255.

So with these setting here is the Gamma settings.

Go to Gamma/Custom settings. Set Gamma to 2.4. Go to White
Gamma Offset. Change the 5% to 30% to these.

5% 52
10% 100
15% 140
20% 186
30% 276
40% 375
50% 481
60% 588
70% 693
80% 804
90% 911
95% 967

This produces a nice gamma curve from 2.4 and tailing down to 2.2
in dark areas. I haven't sighted any black crush or greyscale blocking,
just enhanced shadows and a very dynamic picture.

Have a go.

Ta Dono

Each owners settings will be different, controlled lighting, non-controlled lighting, colors of the wall can reflect light back on to the screen. There are so many factors that user need take under consideration. I have a C6 meter and to get the gamma setting set to a Rec709 standard I had to have the RS2 set at 2.6.
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Hey,

I was doing a little experimenting the other day with colourspaces from my players. I changed a player to RGB colourspace and told the projector to only accept RGB. I then looked at the Spears and Muncil test patterns. The first Test (Brightness) showed a masive improvement on the checkerboard detail.
I then tested between Y,Cr,Cb and then RGB. I put the projector on Auto colourspace and used my Oppo in which I can change the setting on the fly.

RGB was displaying the checkerboard detail (shadow detail) a lot, lot clearer.
I then looked at the other test patterns to check if anything else was out of whack. Everything was good.

I have now changed all players to RGB and put the projectors colourspace on RGB instead of auto. The last week I have been evaluating and it is spectacular. I'm seeing shadow detail very clearly. One other side effect is I'm not seeing the dredded DILA blur as much (sometimes not at all).

Now I know the projector is doing the double processing (grabbing RGB turning it to Y,Cr,Cb and then back to RGB) because the colour control is still active when it shouldn't. I wonder because it is doing this it helps with the DILA blur?

I like the RGB setting a lot since I have changed. It is almost like I purchased a new projector. I don't understand why RGB has changed the Test pattern or the blurr, however it looks great.

Ta Dono

Equipment used: Oppo BDP-83, PS3 slim, Denon 1611 > Denon 3808 AVR (i/p scaler turned off) > Cinversum Blackwing 3 (RS2 clone).
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Interesting. Might have to give that a look. Thx for the info.
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Any one ordered a lamp with coupon lately its saying invalid code for me (JVCPROMODP1712)?
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