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My JVC DLA-RS2 review will be posted on the Widescreen Review subscriber's website Tuesday 1/29 at noon (Pacific Time). I'll hang out for a couple of hours after it is posted to respond to any questions or comments. I think you will find this one interesting, and I suspect there will be a few questions and comments. Please do not post questions here before the review is posted on the website (I will have to ignore those questions - simply so that doesn't happen).

I would suggest that you test your access to the WSR subscriber's website this week, and call WSR if you have any access problems that need fixing. They are going to be very busy preparing the next issue on Monday - they are pushing this review posting up a few days earlier than normal for you. They typically get hit with last minute calls for web subscriptions when the more popular reviews are posted.

As usual the review is copyrighted material from Widescreen Review and it should NOT be reposted anywhere. WSR will stop posting my reviews early if they get reposted. So please don't spoil these opportunities to read the reviews in advance of the print edition.

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I look forward to reading the review even though I just bought a VW60. You rerview was essential in my descision. The good news is that the RS2 is out of my price range so I will not likely have any regrets.

A few weeks ago I subscribed to the web subscription. It took almost a week before I had access! I don't think they understand the whole internet concept of have it now. I guess compared to- "allow 6-8 weeks for deivery" -one week is to be considered fast.

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A few weeks ago I subscribed to the web subscription. It took almost a week before I had access!

That's why I suggested anyone wanting to read the review on Tuesday should get everything worked out this week. WSR is a small operation compared to the big publishing companies that have lots of magazines, etc. There are times while preparing a new issue that things get really busy. I think Monday will be a busy day there because they will be closing a new issue.

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Thanks Greg. I can't wait (be it good or bad news for the RS2).

That's a very wise bit of advice too, about ensuring subscription access before-hand. I'll do that.

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I can't wait for this.

No doubt it will stir things up around here once more!

My guess is that the conclusion will be that it is a mixed bad: some things better (motorized lens, stretch, gamma controls), some worse (dimmer), while most remains unchanged over the RS1 (inaccurate color).

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Will the review make us more or less neurotic?


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It's a bit of fun guessing about greg's reviews. Aside from the standard, thorough technical/subjective descriptions what, in particular, will be (in greg's words) "interesting" about the RS2 review?

Guesses: Perhaps dimmer than suspected light output compared to RS1?
Change in ANSI contrast?
Difference in image sharpness (unexpected, but certainly would be "interesting" if greg finds the RS2 any sharper).
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Will the review make us more or less neurotic?


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Yes!

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It's a bit of fun guessing about greg's reviews. Aside from the standard, thorough technical/subjective descriptions what, in particular, will be (in greg's words) "interesting" about the RS2 review?

Guesses: Perhaps dimmer than suspected light output compared to RS1?
Change in ANSI contrast?
Difference in image sharpness (unexpected, but certainly would be "interesting" if greg finds the RS2 any sharper).

He still seemed to rank it superior to RS1 so I figure that is what will be most interesting.

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Tom. Shame on you. The answer is it depends on who the us are! For example, could anything make Tryg more neurotic than he already is? Same for you and me.

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I tend to stay at a fairly high neurotic state. On occasion something cool comes along and it can totally increase the neurosis.

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Maybe what's needed is a definitions page.

Like when he says something is "good"... what does that really mean?
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Maybe what's needed is a definitions page.

Like when he says something is "good"... what does that really mean?

See, I was right, it's already made him more neurotic!!! Are there no limits?

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Did you provide the new processor for evaluation together with the new RS2?

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Mattias,

No, Greg did not review the unit with the processor as the processor is still undergoing some tweaks and not quite ready. I believe we have agreed to send a processor and projector for follow-up review once it is done.

Not trying to vague, but our product manager is the one working directly with Greg on this, not me.

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Tryg. You are bad, man! And that means GOOD!

Then again you are so GOOD, you're BAD!

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Tryg. You are bad, man! And that means GOOD!

Then again you are so GOOD, you're BAD!

Well said

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One more review for all of us. Not as good as Gregs but I know people want to know more...
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hdt...projector.html
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I installed another one recently at a client. have an issue with macrovision from a sony dvd tv recorder in YUV (not other connections possible to the jvc for now as the cabling has to be run in a nightmarish existing under wood floor tiny tube and the jvc refuses the signal from hdmi over cat 5, so YUV high res cable it is.). perhaps a soft upgrade can tackle the macrovision issue sensitivity ? the JVC are sensitive machines (hdcp, synch etc but it accepts hdmi 1080p over 45ft cables if the sce can output it).

anyway, the contrast ratio indeed goes beyond the HD1/RS1. I'd say a black room is needed to really gp to the 25000:1. then it's amazing how it can remind a CRT on off ratio, to some extent. night scenes of a "naturally filmed movie" like SILVERADO were amazing (it's easy to have good night scenes in Transformers which is so processed).
the zoom focus could have been directly accessible. but it's now easy with eyes on the screen to pinpt the focus till you see the red grid.
at another client i installed an HD100 at very close range to maximize brigthness, screen is curved 330CM scope wide, ultra microperf (no moiré; thanks to dila liliputian screendoor). punchy image and it's in eco mode but the pj is at about 390cm only
from the screen. this is important when you want to maximize lumens. this is where the SILVERADO night scenes were inky black;
Also some guys have pushed their HD1 to 4000hrs of lamp use and not much reduced luminosity: the lamp can last long if you turn on the pj for several hrs of use vs 3 times a day. probably the same witht the RS2/HD100.
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Bump - tomorrow

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Don't tease us! I thought you going to say it got posted early

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Both!
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Also some guys have pushed their HD1 to 4000hrs of lamp use and not much reduced luminosity: the lamp can last long if you turn on the pj for several hrs of use vs 3 times a day. probably the same witht the RS2/HD100.

Wow! Maybe the Mack bulb warantee was a waste of money!
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Aaagh! I was so waiting forward to reading the review. I meant to check my log-in on the WSR site and only got around to it today. Wouldn't you know it: it won't let me on! Looks like I have to renew or something! And it says renewal takes up to 3 days!

Doesn't it figure....!

EDIT: Call to the office solved the problem.

Good to take Greg's advice.
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Aaagh! I was so waiting forward to reading the review. I meant to check my log-in on the WSR site and only got around to it today. Wouldn't you know it: it won't let me on! Looks like I have to renew or something! And it says renewal takes up to 3 days!

Doesn't it figure....!

I just checked mine today and it worked. I had not logged in for a couple years but I update my subscription for the magazine. I always look forward to this magazine coming in the mail.

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Greg,

Looking forward to the RS2 review posting. How far down the line is the 11S2? 8)
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So, is there any way to get this review if you are not a subscriber to WSR?
Will I be able to see it if I just get the next print issue or is it only available on line?

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You can buy the print version when it hits the stands in a few weeks. Or you could take the radical step of actually subscribing--that is if you can afford $20.00 a year.

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So, is there any way to get this review if you are not a subscriber to WSR?
Will I be able to see it if I just get the next print issue or is it only available on line?

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You can buy the print version when it hits the stands in a few weeks. Or you could take the radical step of actually subscribing--that is if you can afford $20.00 a year.

Thanks for the help.

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Greg,

Looking forward to the RS2 review posting. How far down the line is the 11S2? 8)

I don't know. Only Dan would know. I haven't got the 11S2 yet.

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