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post #31 of 3319 Old 06-12-2008, 08:57 AM - Thread Starter
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Yeah, I should add the Homemade Coathanger Quad Bow Tie on the list as well. Will do shortly.

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I was looking available rabbit ears and saw a unit made by General Electric and also had a 20 dB adjustable gain amplifier. Selling price was around $27.
Any opinions?
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Model # would help.

Probably a decent Applified Rabbit Ears and Loop, as far as they go, and may be enough to meet your needs.

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Thinking about checking this one out.

RCA ANT1020

Like the aesthetics of this unamplified loop and rabbit ears.

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Anyone have any pros / cons of the Philips MANT410 vs the MANT510 model? They're similarly priced at Wal-Mart. Does the oval vs. rectangle UHF antenna matter?

Glad you liked the thread, fajita. I tend to like the loops better than the small amplified rectangles.

Buy both (and the MANT310), and try them all, keep the one you like best and return the others. Dont forget to keep your receipt!

And last but not least report your findings and observations here, to add to the knowledge base.

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Model # would help.

Probably a decent Applified Rabbit Ears and Loop, as far as they go, and may be enough to meet your needs.

Post your tvfool.com info.

I think it was the Futura.
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A used RS 15-1880 just sold on ebay for $86. Wow!



A used RS Double Bow Tie just sold for $35, but included an offboard amp.

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A used RS 15-1880 just sold on ebay for $86. Wow!

I'm using mine on my bedroom TV currently. Picking up channels through walls from over 60 miles away with it!

I wouldn't even give it up for $86.00 at this point.

$35.00 for the RS double-bowtie with an amp is cheap IMO. That person really got a good deal there.
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I think it was the Futura.

Cant recommend that unit. Although Im not familiar with it, those style of antennas do not have a good reputation.

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Model # would help.

Probably a decent Applified Rabbit Ears and Loop, as far as they go, and may be enough to meet your needs.

Post your tvfool.com info.

It is the Omni Amplified http://www.jascoproducts.com/product...9&idproduct=90
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That post stands. Knowing the information on tvfool.com based on your location would help emensely. Or buy from a place with a friendly return policy and do trial and error testing.

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Rearranged the order somewhat, condensing like items. Edited, updated, and expanded some personal comment drafts for clarity accuracy and consistency. Added Homemade Quad Bow Tie and CM 4221 and RCA1020 and Table of Contents and reviews of the MANT510 link.

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Considering discussing the Terk TV-5 adn TV-4 as well as the Terk TV 55 and similar units by Philips and others. Dont know that I want to add them in here though.

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I'm using mine on my bedroom TV currently. Picking up channels through walls from over 60 miles away with it!

I wouldn't even give it up for $86.00 at this point.

Anybody know how often those Radio Shack antennas show up on e-Bay? I'm trying to track one or two down.
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I think about 1 every 3 months or so.

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Considering discussing the Terk TV-5 adn TV-4....

I've always read pretty favorable reviews about those, too.
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The Winegard HD-1080 would also make a good indoor antenna. About the same size as the UHF DB-2 . . .

Not really. The DB2 is 12" H x 19"W and the Winegard HD-1080 is 34.5”W x 18.25H”, nearly 2x as wide as the DB2. That would make it unworkable for me as an indoor antenna.
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Thanks for creating such a great thread EscapeVelocity! It can be VERY confusing with all of the antenna choices floating around out there, so it's nice to have all of this information in one convenient place. It's a shame that many of the older Radio Shack models are no longer available. They seem to be some of the best ever made. Oh well, with the DTV revolution, maybe they will bring some of them back. One can always hope!!
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EV: Thank you so much for a practical thread. I have tried so many bloody indoor aerials in the past for months. I'm trying my twelfth different antenna - most have been returned, a couple have stayed around the house. I'm trying the MANT-510. Initially I was disappointed, my living room really faces the "wrong way" to get reception from most of my local stations. However, trying the MANT510 in my bedroom, it is a bit more stable than the other aerials I've used. The MANT510 seems to be less prone to interruptions from nearby pedestrians and motorists. The MANT-510 might be a keeper after all.

FYI the MANT-510 is sold in my area at Lowe's home improvement warehouses for $24.97 - less than at "the big river".

Too bad Radio Shack has a weird tendency to occasionally introduce best-in-class products - not just antennas like the 15-1862 and 15-1880 but various other electronic goods - then arbitrarily cancel them.
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Thanks to all for your kind words. Still working on improving and expanding it. Suggestions welcome. Im thinking about discussing tuner sensitivity as regards to reception, as well. Just something short and sweet, with maybe a suggestion or 2 on CECBs.

Seatacboy, Id be interested, as Im sure others would be, in your discussing some of the models and observations from your experience with a dozen antennas, if you feel up to it.

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Added RS 1868, Jensen 931, Terk TV-4 and TV-5.

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EV: Thank you so much for a practical thread. I have tried so many bloody indoor aerials in the past for months. I'm trying my twelfth different antenna - most have been returned, a couple have stayed around the house. I'm trying the MANT-510. Initially I was disappointed, my living room really faces the "wrong way" to get reception from most of my local stations. However, trying the MANT510 in my bedroom, it is a bit more stable than the other aerials I've used. The MANT510 seems to be less prone to interruptions from nearby pedestrians and motorists. The MANT-510 might be a keeper after all.

FYI the MANT-510 is sold in my area at Lowe's home improvement warehouses for $24.97 - less than at "the big river".

Too bad Radio Shack has a weird tendency to occasionally introduce best-in-class products - not just antennas like the 15-1862 and 15-1880 but various other electronic goods - then arbitrarily cancel them.

My MANT510's (I have two. I originally bought one for my girlfriend before she moved in with me.) are solid during the winter but unreliable in the spring when the leaves come back on the trees.
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Moved "Tips for Reception" to top of guide to initiate newbies better. Terk TV-5 now has its own slot on the list, moved from "under consideration." Added comments about HDTV Primer and HDTVexpert links. Added paragraph about tuners in introduction.

edit: Terk TV-3 and TV-1 added to "under consideration list." Added "Other good antenna review website links." under the shootouts.

edit: added reference and link ot active discussion on Homemade Quad Bow Tie antenna in AVSforum.

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I found this thread in which seatacboy shares some of his experiences.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=14014966

Going to add the RCA ANT110 and/or RCA ANT111 to the list. Perhaps the RCA ANT121.

Thanks seatacboy!

I really wish youd give us a good rundown, so we can improve the list.

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EscapeVelocity: I borrowed a few friends' antennas this weekend and even shelled out for an MANT410 at Wal-Mart. Sadly, I don't think my results add much to the discussion. I think I live "too close" to the towers for amplification to help.

The MANT410 was slightly worse than the cheapie, ooooold UHF loop / VHF dipole combo we've been using. I think that's to its credit, because everything else I hooked up was far worse than that.

One antenna that totally displeased me was the RCA ANT1251. It's supposedly 55db amplified, so that could've been my problem... still, at the lowest setting it couldn't even keep the local Lansing WLNS/WILX stations steady. It only pulled in 5 total channels (plus subchannels), while the others averaged between 8 to 11.

Lordy, all I want to do is slightly shore up the channels I'm getting in the 60-70% signal strength range... but nothing seems to help. Leaves me to wonder if an SS-3000 or an HD-1080 (or other DB2 style antenna) would be worth a shot in our basement apartment. I'm close to giving one a shot, since I can re-sell on eBay if it doesn't work out. If I do that, I'll post my impressions... especially if they're positive *grin*
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Do you have a TVfool list of all the channels you would like to get? Please post it. Do you have any VHF Hi channels on that list of channels you are looking to pull in?

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I would consider a separate review of good old rabbit ears. There's plenty of information about using them. For example, I've read the tips of the dipoles should be 32 inches apart for channel 7, 26 inches apart for channel 13. For some people, rabbit ears may be the only reliable source of reception after the transition. Yes, they may not get all channels with them, but some is better than none. Anybody selling vhf-hi rabbit ears yet? How tall would those be extended?
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Do you have a TVfool list of all the channels you would like to get? Please post it. Do you have any VHF Hi channels on that list of channels you are looking to pull in?

I don't know how to easily post the results. But if you pop in Lansing, MI, 48911, the info is pretty accurate. My window is basically at 0ft ground level. But there really aren't any tall buildings or tall trees between here and any tower (2 stories, max).

No VHF Hi channels now. After the transition, WILX the NBC affiliate will move from UHF57 at 500kW to VHF10 at 14.77kW (that scares me...).
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Here is your list fajita. Which stations do you wish to receive? Which stations do you now receive? Which stations are giving you trouble with your current setup? Which direction does your window(of opportunity) face?
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That is a great idea, deltaguy. Ill look into it. Any info you can share would be greatly appreciated. For some reason, Im thinking that the rabbit ears completely horizontal in oposite directions is best fro channel 2, but not sure?

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