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post #721 of 3319 Old 07-25-2008, 08:01 AM - Thread Starter
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Returning the GE Futura Outdoor, RCA ANT806, and Zenith DTT900 today.....all good recommended units, which were beat out by slightly better units of their types, IMO.

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Terk TV-55

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Its performance was very dissappointing.

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Im wondering if I may have gotten a defective unit.

Not recommended.

Several years ago (pre DB2) I picked up a Terk that looked like this one at Fry's. The simple bow tie set up I had at the time worked better! So I don't think you got a 'defective' unit.
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The Philips MANT950 and RCA ANT806 are good choices for those who will need VHF gain after the analog shutdown.

Other good choices.

Winegard Batwing Style Antennas

As long as you're going to get into a bit larger-sized models, I'll bet the Channel Master STEALTHtenna at least performs similarly. It was excellent on hi-VHF, and not even all that bad on lo-VHF. It was also very good on UHF.
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Terk TV-55

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Its performance was very dissappointing.

Ch.

34 = 0
35 = 0
40 = 3
44 = 3
47 = 0
49 = 0
50 = 4

Im wondering if I may have gotten a defective unit.

Not recommended.

Every indoor TERK you've tested has been disappointing. The same goes for the HDTVi I got from a friend. Methinks TERK may make good outdoor stuff, but their indoor stuff doesn't translate.

===Update======

The RS UFO still outperforms the Philips 950? Wow! That saves me $100. I bet the 950 is good outside--just not so great inside. However, its outdoor performance is something for a different thread.

Thanks again, EV.
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I dont think I did a direct comparison with the UFO, yet, but I would venture to guess the UFO outperforms the Philips MANT950 and RCA ANT806.


I was surprised that the RCA ANT806 and Philips MANT950 did so well....especially on UHF......and that the Terk TV-55 did so poorly(but I wasnt surpised that it finished 3rd really).

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Edit: I bolded the channels that I consider my local channels that should be recieved.

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Performance.....
16.1,2,3 PBS = RC 44..294 deg..23 miles
2.1,2 NBC & CW = RC 50..55 deg..45 miles
24.1 Fox = RC 40..41 deg..27 miles
36.1 MyTV = RC 35..41 deg..27 miles
7.1,2,3 PBS = RC 49..55 deg..45 miles
5.1 CBS = RC 47..55 deg..45 miles
4.1 ABC = RC 34..54 deg..45 miles

1 to 3 equals no video....Bad/Red
4 to 6 equals 4 no video or extremely bad breakups, 5 video with some breakups, 6 all good.....OK/Green
7 to 9 equals all good....Good/Blue

Ch.
17 = 2
34 = 3
35 = 3
40 = 3
44 = 3
47 = 3
49 = 2
50 = 3
Not recommended

Does this mean you received NO viewable signal for your local digital TV stations with what's billed as "The BEST Indoor TV Antenna"? Sounds like at best you got a brief "blip" of a picture using the Zenith CECB. As you've become an expert at testing these devices, learning the art of antenna positioning as well as futzing around with amplifier-power adjustments and so forth, it's disappointing that the "Hammacher Schlemmer" GE antenna fell so short of the advertising hype.

Presumably, somebody reading this will submit your test report to Hammacher Schlemmer and to GE/Jasco.
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I dont think I did a direct comparison with the UFO, yet, but I would venture to guess the UFO outperforms the Philips MANT950 and RCA ANT806.

I was surprised that the RCA ANT806 and Philips MANT950 did so well....especially on UHF......and that the Terk TV-55 did so poorly(but I wasnt surpised that it finished 3rd really).

It might be worthwhile to hook up your Radio Shack 15-1892 using the same performance measurement criteria applied to the MANT950 and ANT806.

One aspect of the MANT950 & ANT806 testing which I'm curious about: how would these units function in multipath-afflicted areas with nearby multi-story buildings? These units may have some directionality but it's unclear how they cope with multipath reflections.

Both the MANT950 and ANT806 could be appealing choices for condo/apartment dwellers since these can easily be placed on a window sill. The great question remains: in urban and suburban environments where there are other nearby buildings, trees and structures obstructing the line of sight, are these antennas able to reject unwanted interference and unwanted multipath signal?
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The great question remains: in urban and suburban environments where there are other nearby buildings, trees and structures obstructing the line of sight, are these antennas able to reject unwanted interference and unwanted multipath signal?

seatacboy, have you looked into the Sharp DTA-3500?
http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-DTA-3500...999971&sr=8-43

I know little about it other than that it comes from a very reliable company and that it gets good reviews on Amazon, but it sounds like a possible answer to your situation.
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I want to get the Godars mini reviewed along before I do the big showdown with the Zenith signal meter.

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Oops. I just read that the GE Infinity has adjustable gain. I didnt see this adjustment. Ill have to retest as I checked it and it was set on low.

Didnt I do the same thing with the Terk TV-5?

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A big motivator to getting dependable OTA reception: the ability to cancel cable. Worthwhile reading.
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Oops. I just read that the GE Infinity has adjustable gain. I didn't see this adjustment. I'll have to retest as I checked it and it was set on low.(

Did you place the GE Infinity in the same sweet spot as others? Have you experimented with placement?

A few months ago, I did evaluate a non-amplified GE Optima 24713 antenna. It had pretty good signal quality, was visually pleasant, and seemed to be well-built....it's overall performance (in my assessment) was comparable to, but not superior than, the RCA ANT110 which sells for less than one-third of the GE Optima's price. The GE Optima is a completely different design than the GE Infinity unit.
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Didnt I do the same thing with the Terk TV5?

A few days back, browsing at a thrift store, they had the nonpowered Terk TV-4 connected to a three-year-old JVC 20" TV. Even inside a converted grocery store, the Terk TV4 provided very good ANALOG reception. I went through the channels and overall was pretty impressed with the analog feed received via the Terk TV4, particularly since this was in the very back of the store quite a distance from the windows.

The Terk TV4 & TV5 aerials were quite innovative when they were introduced in the late 1980s. The Terk TV4/TV5 designs work fairly well for NTSC analog reception but not for ATSC digital, perhaps their omnidirectional "elephant ear shape" antenna elements tend to pick up a lot of unwanted interference or multipath reception.
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Did you place the GE Infinity in the same sweet spot as others? Have you experimented with placement?

A few months ago, I did evaluate a non-amplified GE Optima 24713 antenna. It had pretty good signal quality, was visually pleasant, and seemed to be well-built....it's overall performance (in my assessment) was comparable to, but not superior than, the RCA ANT110 which sells for less than one-third of the GE Optima's price. The GE Optima is a completely different design than the GE Infinity unit.

Ive got 3 sweet spots on the North Corner Window that I use. One of them is on top of the lamp. LOL! Poor lamp.

Both the GE Infinity and Terk TV-5 have low key amp adjustments, and I do most of my testing at night after dark, with semi poor lighting.

The Terk TV-5 didnt impress me, even after I adjusted the gain. It also has ergonomic and usability issues, so I wont be giving it a recommendation.

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The Terk TV-5 didnt impress me, even after I adjusted the gain. It also has ergonomic and usability issues, so I wont be giving it a recommendation.

Understood. I think most of the positive reviews on the Terk TV4 and TV5 are from analog viewers. I acquired a used (older) Terk TV4 and donated it out after briefly testing it with the Zenith box, its performance on ATSC digital was unimpressive - slightly better than what you reported with the TV5, but way fewer watchable stations than the RCA ANT110, Radio Shack 15-1868 or the Classic Single UHF Outline Bow Tie.

Moral of the story: some innovative antenna designs (like the Terk TV4 and TV5) which work for analog TV may be disappointing and ineffective for receiving digital TV.
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Has anyone found "discount" or "dollar-plus" stores peddling the various Trisonic-branded clone indoor antennas? I've seen some Trisonic products locally but the only antenna I've found lately has been the "Panasonic-style" slip-on replacement rod VHF rabbit ears, sold for $1.69.
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I retested the GE Infinity last night, but it was a bad reception day, according to the DB2. Ill try again soon. Busy this weekend.

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WOW!!!! Awesome thread! There is SO MUCH information here - I am still trying to take it all in! I really wish I'd have found this sooner!

Congratz to all on an Amazing body of information.

I am still somewhat new to OTA, Antennas, and the new DTV revolution. Overpriced Cable and Satellite companies have frustrasted me to no end, so I am returning to the "free" TV.

On to my question: I am currently using a Terk HDTVa with a Zenith DTT901. The 901 is working beautifully, but the HDTVa is Very directional (moving it a lot to pick up different stations). Also it is struggling to bring in WXTF-DT (Fox Philly).

Would it be better to try a different antenna, or try to boost the signal with a different signal booster (the HDTVa comes with a small one)?

Also as anyone near Philly tried the RCA ANT537?
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I purchased a used generic clone four-bay UHF outdoor antenna, which closely resembles the CM 4221 - from another local AVS Forum user. I'm currently evaluating it as an indoor antenna. .....
As an indoor antenna, the problem with using this unit indoors within a small living unit [is that] the unit's size makes it really hard to "focus" in a specific direction to minimize multipath interference.

I'm delighted to update my report! I moved some belongings from a different corner of my north-facing bedroom, and have finally found a position where the CM 4221 clone can pull in a viewable picture on all 14 Seattle-area DTV stations! While reception is not 100% reliable, this is the first time I've actually been able to run a channel scan and obtain a viewable picture on ALL of my local stations. Keep in mind this is a miserable location for DTV, in that my condo unit is a couple of feet below ground, my north-facing view is overlooking a parking lot, and is surrounded by several three-story-high condo buildings and trees.

With the CM 4221 placed near, but not directly in front of, a north-facing window, and without rotating the antenna around - I present signal quality/strength numbers. I'm using EV's signal-quality scheme (1 to 10 signal quality rating) using the same Zenith DTT-900/DTT-901 CECB signal-strength display for each channel:

KOMO 38 7
KING 48 5
KIRO 39 6
KCTS 41 7
KSTW 36 8
KCPQ 18 5
KONG 31 7
KTBW 14 5
KMYQ 25 8
KBTC 27 7
KWPX 32 7
KWBF 42 7
KHCV 44 6
KUNS 50 7

While it is conceivable I had an unusual "good reception" afternoon, I ran similar tests using an RCA ANT-110 and wasn't able to duplicate these numbers. I've finally found a spot where the Channel Master 4221 will get me a total of 14 channels (total of 34 subchannels!).

The used clone 4221 I acquired came equipped with an excellent 3-foot mounting mast, I now need to go to the hardware store to find something like a flag-pole base so the antenna can be placed securely in the bedroom corner without accidentally falling over. I may want to be able to manually turn the position when I want to watch something on KCPQ (Fox) since signal strength can be up around 8 if I rotate it towards the west.

I might still explore getting a Channel Master preamplifier, since there are some breakups caused when neighbors are walking in front of my north-facing window to go to their cars - and since I'd like to split the signal to feed my living room TV with excellent OTA signal.

While this remains a work in progress, yours truly is very happy to report getting viewable reception on a total of 34 subchannels!

P.S. I'm using a 12-foot run of Philips-branded quad-shielded RG6 coax running from the CM4221 to the CECB.
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Hi, I just wanted to thank EV and everyone for the great info on antennas here. I live in a strong signal area in Philadelphia, just 4.4 miles from most of my transmitters. The Delta shaped RE/loop 1868 from radio shack works very well for me thru my Zenith dtt901 stb. I just put it on top of the TV aimed in the general direction of the tower and it pulled in about 20 stations many of which are sub channells.
I did consider getting a DB2, since it was highly rated. In the installation instructions on the Antennas Direct website, the mentioned that if you are located under 5 miles from the transmitter, you may need an attenuator.
I am glad I came across all these reviews. Thanks.
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I live in a strong signal area in Philadelphia, just 4.4 miles from most of my transmitters.

I am in Telford and about 17 miles from the closest transmitter.
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I am in Telford and about 17 miles from the closest transmitter.

Wow, I've actually been to Telford a few times. The parents of one of my old friends live there. I lived in West Conshohocken for eight years and used to get up there occasionally, it sure is some beautiful country. I would imagine you'd probably need an outdoor antenna to pick up those Philly channels.

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I did consider getting a DB2, since it was highly rated.

I picked up the Channel Master 4220, a DB2 clone, at Fry's for $40. I couldn't be happier. I live in a downtown high-rise with tinted windows, no balcony, and another high-rise directly across the street.

I'm dying to hear a review about the new ClearStream1 and ClearStream2 antennas. I may take the plunge on one of them since Antennas Direct has a 90 day return policy. Wow, I take that back. Buying directly costs so much more than going through Buy.com, $46.99 and $59.99.
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I picked up the Channel Master 4220, a DB2 clone, at Fry's for $40. I couldn't be happier. I live in a downtown high-rise with tinted windows, no balcony, and another high-rise directly across the street.

A great many OTA viewers are going to be happier with the real-world day-to-day reception obtained by a 4220 or DB2 than by most indoor antenna designs. The 4220 / DB2 units are not too cumbersome to place indoors.

I'm using the "big brother", a 4221 clone (bought used for very little $$). I'm very pleased with it, but it is a bit harder to maneuver around for indoor placement than the smaller 4220 / DB2 units. I strongly recommend urban and suburban viewers try using the smaller 4220 or DB2 first, though the 4221 is technically a little bit "better" being a four-bay unit.

Once you do get these antennas placed in the optimum spot indoors, you will get really good overall DTV reception - which is essential in order to actually enjoy high definition 720p and 1080i telecasts as well as standard-definition DTV. The Clearstream 1 and Clearstream 2 antennas do look promising.
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A great many OTA viewers are going to be happier with the real-world day-to-day reception obtained by a 4220 or DB2 than by most indoor antenna designs. The 4220 / DB2 units are not too cumbersome to place indoors.

The Clearstream 1 and Clearstream 2 antennas do look promising.

The Eagle Aspen is very similar to the DB2, just fractions of an inch longer in the bow ties and wider in the reflecting screen. The Channel Master 4220 is a heftier, and apparently somewhat higher quality, assemblage. But, as the Eagle Aspen sells for a quarter of the price of the other two, it is hard to figure why anyone would buy a DB2 or 4220.

The distance antenna that intrigues me is WSYR Channel 9's ambitious DIY project, v e r y - detailed instructions -- including templates and measuring guides -- for the construction of which are here: Assembly Instructions (WARNING: 22MB file!); and the close-in but multipath-rejecting antennas that interest me are the Winegard SS-3000, which EV has tested only as a distance antenna, and the Sharp DTA-3500.
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The Eagle Aspen is very similar to the DB2, just fractions of an inch longer in the bow ties and wider in the reflecting screen. The Channel Master 4220 is a heftier, and apparently somewhat higher quality, assemblage. But, as the Eagle Aspen sells for a quarter of the price of the other two, it is hard to figure why anyone would buy a DB2 or 4220.

The Eagle Aspen DTV2BUHF is worth considering for indoor placement, particularly if you can buy cheaper than the CM 4220 and DB2.
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P.S. I'm using a 12-foot run of Philips-branded quad-shielded RG6 coax running from the CM4221 to the CECB.

Do you believe the RG6 is noticeably better on such a short run?

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The Eagle Aspen DTV2BUHF is worth considering for indoor placement, particularly if you can buy cheaper than the CM 4220 and DB2.

We mounted ours in the attic. Our expenditure for the Eagle Aspen was roughly evenly divided between the shipping cost and the unit's $10 price.

Like you, we connected by RG6 cable, but ours is a 25-foot run, partially along the outside of the house, where it is exposed to weather.
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I want to get the Godars mini reviewed along before I do the big showdown with the Zenith signal meter.

Any findings you care to share about the Godar aerials?
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