Originally Posted by mabuttra
Depends on your definition of an interactive guide. I consider the Sony to be an interactive guide. you can view listings, get program descriptions, set recordings, it is all interactive, and it is only a one way device. After reading the hype on Rovi's webpage, I'm completely unimpressed. I'm pretty sure I have seen that information on their site before, and I haven't even been to their site in over a year. I don't know how you can conclude anything about the future of TVGOS from that. Rovi is trying to capture the cablebox guide market which they have been trying to do for several years. I see nothing in there to draw a conclusion, as you have, that TVGOS is dead.
I did get one thing wrong in my last post. The new data that Rovi is sending out only started less than a year ago. The last schedule change occurred in February 2011, not November of 2010, as I posted earlier. That is when this new data started, that I found the references to TotalGuide in. I think the reason the TVG2 PID vanished, is that Rovi may have been planning to launch the new guide data in a separate PID, but then decided that they could squeeze the existing V8/V9 data into a small enough footprint to make room for the new data. This is speculation on my part, but at least I acknowledge that.
I apologize for my post to you as it was made in haste and didn't come out right.
I believe your findings in the data stream 100%. I would find it idiotic of Rovi to develop a new guide and try using inserters at all to get data to them. If it was left up to me to develop a new guide to replace TVGOS, getting rid of the inserters would be number one on the list.
Rovi did end TVGOS and is replacing it with Total Guide. The only place you can find a reference to TVGOS is one simple page in their support section. They even eliminated the FAQs and the zip code search for TVGOS.
My definition of interactive would be you can access the guide from a remote source, like a PC or cell phone, to set reminders or set recordings just like you can do with Tivos and some cable companys STBs.
The Total Guide is supposed to even search streaming sites like Netflix when you search for movies, etc. This would be hard to do with the inserters.
Right now, with TVGOS, when you do a search it only searches the data that has been downloaded to the volatile memory of the guide from the inserters. I would not call that interactive as even my original TVGOS version from 1997 did the same thing. And if the inserter data is not available because there is no inserter or the insterter is broke then there is nothing to search.
Here is a related thing that occured today as to how quickly things can change with CE products.
Arris announced the end of support for the Moxi DVR.http://www.moxi.com/us/
Also the new CEO of Sony admitted that Sony is severly damaged financially and drastic measures have to be taken so Sony can survive.