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I checked with Ken H about which AVS forum would be most appropriate for this question and he suggested HDTV Technical since it is a reception issue:

A family member lives 40 miles LOS from WQXR FM (NYC). She enjoyed listening to it for many years. However, all that changed on July 14, 2009:
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WQXR has less range and population coverage on 105.9 than it had with its old signal on 96.3. WQXR's old and new signals both radiate from the same FM master antenna atop the the Empire State Building; but while WQXR's old signal (now WCAA's) is 6,000 watts ERP (effective radiated power -- the energy concentrated toward the horizon), its new signal (WCAA's old one) is 600 watts. The calculated signal strength of the new signal at 30 miles (covering about 14.5 million people) is the same as the old 96.3 FM signal at 42 miles (covering about 17.1 million people).

FM Fool WQXR analog reception results:
  • 105.9
  • 0.6 kW
  • Signal RX: -69.4 dBM
  • 26.7 Ft AGL LOS
  • Rank order: #41 out of 65 total stations
They currently have a rooftop omni-directional turnstile antenna similar to the CM-3026, which is no longer able to receive WQXR due to its reduction in power from 6000 to 600 watts.

Which directional rooftop FM antenna will allow them to reliably receive WQXR?

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have they tried this?

http://www.wqxr.org/audio/help/

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have they tried this?

http://www.wqxr.org/audio/help/

I did, even though signal strength is still more than adequate at my apartment and at my office. But once you get that far, who needs WQXR? Not only did they change their frequency and power, they have further diluted their program content and increased the inanity of their announcers. The Internet is filled with dozens and dozens of better classical music stations.

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, they have further diluted their program content and increased the inanity of their announcers.
Kal (who grew up with WQXR)

oh, believe me I get that..sad to say OTA radio is dead IMHO..

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Which directional rooftop FM antenna will allow them to reliably receive WQXR?

This antenna has worked well for me down to around -80dbm.
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Not only did they change their frequency and power, they have further diluted their program content and increased the inanity of their announcers.

Kal (who grew up with WQXR)

Hi Kal,

Thanks for the update on WQXR's 105.9 programming. Sounds like they may no longer be worth the reception effort. Can you recommend a classical music station in the NYC / NJ metro area that is most similar to the previous 96.3 WQXR?

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This antenna has worked well for me down to around -80dbm.

Thanks for the FM6 recommendation - a cost-effective solution for FM fringe reception.

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Hi Kal,

Thanks for the update on WQXR's 105.9 programming. Sounds like they may no longer be worth the reception effort. Can you recommend a classical music station in the NYC / NJ metro area that is most similar to the previous 96.3 WQXR?

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Nope. That's why I now rely on Internet radio. Of course, your family member may actually like what they have done as their blog seems to indicate that many do. My bias is for less talk (especially if it is insipid and irrelevant) and more non-repetitious music. Others may differ.

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Hi Kal,

Less talk and more non-repetitious music sounds like a great combination. Which classical station in the NYC / NJ metro area comes closest to this ideal? They're currently have dial-up and their internet is limited to one room. The internet audio isn't connected to all the main living areas like their FM receiver.

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A family member lives 40 miles LOS from WQXR FM (NYC). She enjoyed listening to it for many years. However, all that changed on July 14, 2009:

In addition to the Antennacraft there is three models from Winegard. I used a Channel Master 4408 for many years, unfortunately, it has been discontinued.

I solved my fixed and mobile radio reception problem several years ago with Sirius XM , no fades or flutters (picket fence effect) no matter where I go in the CONUS (except tunnels). For serious listening I still use the old CDs.
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Hi Wendell,

Thanks for the Winegard suggestion & link.

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Can you recommend a classical music station in the NYC / NJ metro area that is most similar to the previous 96.3 WQXR?

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Nope. That's why I now rely on Internet radio.

Kal,

Is there an FM station in the Philadelphia metro area that is most similar to the original 96.3 WQXR?

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Hi Kal,

Less talk and more non-repetitious music sounds like a great combination. Which classical station in the NYC / NJ metro area comes closest to this ideal?

None. There are only two, afaik: WQXR and Q2, their internet-only modern music station. The latter has less jibber-jabber but is not really a mainstream music station.

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Is there an FM station in the Philadelphia metro area that is most similar to the original 96.3 WQXR?

Dunno. Never stayed in Philadelphia long enough to find out. Mebbe I will in the future as my granddaughter just started grad school there.

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Thanks Kal. Please let us know if you decide to x-mit out of Philly.

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Thanks Kal. Please let us know if you decide to x-mit out of Philly.

Cute. My next transmission will be from St. Louis.

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I drove through Philly about three years ago, using the Sscan" feature on my car radio, and found that three radio stations were playing Billy Joel songs at the same time.
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